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OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:23 PM Aug 2014

Once upon time, back in the day, my first wife and I would quit our jobs

every summer and spend the summer backpacking in Yosemite National Park. This was before Ronald Ray-Gun. A time when you could quit your job and know another job would be available when you came back. We would spend about three months every summer backpacking the Serra's. After awhile, the only way you could tell what day of the week it was is because the tourists would ride by on mule trains which meant it was probably a weekend. After washing in fresh snowwmelt every day it took weeks to get used to hot water when we returned to "civilisation".

One day, we ended up in Tuolomie Med wows and his guy came buy with a big truck full of milk and food and stuff and started giving it all away. He said it was the "Free, Underground, Commodities Ko-op". Also known s FUCK.

I ran into this guy in San Francisco several months later and he explained to me that the park service told him that the the food had be used or thrown out.

Apparently, Arizona hs something similar
called the 3000 club.

You need to check it out.

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Once upon time, back in the day, my first wife and I would quit our jobs (Original Post) OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2014 OP
This country used to be a lot more fun BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #1
Student loans and college were both affordable even to a truck drivers kid with 4 siblings.... Rowdyboy Aug 2014 #2
Infrastructure was cheap too Bonx Aug 2014 #4
I don't remember those days. onethatcares Aug 2014 #7
Factory town in the 50's Bonx Aug 2014 #12
Yup...College costs have increased 10X since the 70s BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #8
Also housing and food have skyrocketed while minimum wage has barely tripled.... Rowdyboy Aug 2014 #9
Amen! I hitched around the babylonsister Aug 2014 #6
Did you ever make the trail to Vogelsang Camp. or the Golden Crown Mine? Adsos Letter Aug 2014 #3
You must've spent time down in the Poopenaut Valley NBachers Aug 2014 #5
Thank you for the reminder woo me with science Aug 2014 #10
someobody stole Yosemite National Park! snooper2 Aug 2014 #11
Deny, deflect, deceive... woo me with science Aug 2014 #13
I thought it was "act like Putin" day snooper2 Aug 2014 #14
You forgot to add something about Ron Paul, or Teabaggers. woo me with science Aug 2014 #15
Ron Paul? Is that the smoker dude? snooper2 Aug 2014 #16
Deny, deflect, deceive. woo me with science Aug 2014 #17
Yes, *we* know better. Brigid Aug 2014 #19
+1 It's important to take this stuff beyond DU. woo me with science Aug 2014 #22
We did something similar traveling and seasonally working the fruit, or if we found Zorra Aug 2014 #18
I'm dejected at how much being a ladder climbing workaholic is glamorized Populist_Prole Aug 2014 #20
No shit! At the time, we were probably taking home $50.00 to $60.00 a week. OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2014 #21
kick woo me with science Aug 2014 #23

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
1. This country used to be a lot more fun
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:40 PM
Aug 2014

and not just because we were younger. Decent jobs were more plentiful and, just as important, the basics (ie rents) were a lot more affordable. It made those who were capable of relaxing more relaxed.

Thanks for the anecdote.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
2. Student loans and college were both affordable even to a truck drivers kid with 4 siblings....
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:44 PM
Aug 2014

Without incurring an enormous debt for life.

 

Bonx

(2,353 posts)
4. Infrastructure was cheap too
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:17 AM
Aug 2014

You could burn your garbage in an open pit, run a waste pipe for everything from the factory right into the river, build a road thru any old piece of wetland or whatever, no expensive safety equipment to prevent the loss of eyes, fingers & limbs.

onethatcares

(16,984 posts)
7. I don't remember those days.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:26 AM
Aug 2014

especially in the 80s.

Could you give an example or two?

I'll give Nixon a pat on the back for the EPA, which was at least a start, I'll give the unions kudos for working toward

job safety and security.

I grew up in the 60s and got my first job in 68. First year out of high school I had 37 jobs, 14 of which sent me W-2 forms
at the end of the year.

BeyondGeography

(41,075 posts)
8. Yup...College costs have increased 10X since the 70s
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 01:23 PM
Aug 2014

That's my experience, and I'm sticking to it.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
9. Also housing and food have skyrocketed while minimum wage has barely tripled....
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

There's no way I could make it financially through school today.

babylonsister

(172,744 posts)
6. Amen! I hitched around the
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 01:29 AM
Aug 2014

country in my 20's-long, fun story, but that would never happen today.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
3. Did you ever make the trail to Vogelsang Camp. or the Golden Crown Mine?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:11 AM
Aug 2014

Backpacked in Yosemite some when I was younger. Definitely remember Tuolumne Meadows. Even used horses from the pack station there once.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
15. You forgot to add something about Ron Paul, or Teabaggers.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:40 PM
Aug 2014

So predictable...

Meanwhile, the OP's memory is important. Corporatists like to pretend that "the new normal" isn't the result of deliberately chosen policy. We know better.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
17. Deny, deflect, deceive.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:49 PM
Aug 2014

Corporate money out of politics. End the corporate ownership of our politicians. End the incessant, insulting propaganda.

It's our only hope.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
19. Yes, *we* know better.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

Even younger DUers can read threads like this and get the idea. But too many have no clue; they have no sense of what has been stolen from all of us.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
22. +1 It's important to take this stuff beyond DU.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 03:11 PM
Aug 2014

On one hand, some of the fiercest work on behalf of Occupy has come from millenials. I admire every young person who's taken up this cause with no direct knowledge or memory of what has been lost...

On the other hand, there's a whole country of people who are too busy working to survive to notice anything other than what the corporate media and the propagandists spew. The only way I know to counter that is to keep talking about what's been lost, and to expose the propaganda for what it is.

That's why I'm grateful every time someone like the OP reminds us of what has been stolen from us.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. We did something similar traveling and seasonally working the fruit, or if we found
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

a place we liked, we'd pick up schlock jobs and hang in the area, checking out the natural wonders of the area until we felt like moving on. We always had an emergency fund in case we couldn't find a job right away, but there was almost always some work we could fall into

Those days are gone, and I feel bad for adventurous folks who want to do this type of thing, but can't because it is so difficult now.

Fuck Ronald Reagan, and all those like him, for what they did to America and the world.

Thanks, will check out the Arizona 3000 club.


Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
20. I'm dejected at how much being a ladder climbing workaholic is glamorized
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:57 PM
Aug 2014

Shows how much the conservatives have poisoned the discourse over time.

The whole "enjoy life later" and "you can sleep all you want when you're dead" meme sure suckers a lot of people. From my anecdotal evidence, that whole throttling back and finally coasting dynamic never happens, assuming one actually did make their pile. It becomes such an ingrained trait that even in retirement, it's still "go go go" for people being used to being perenially ehausted.

Enjoy life. Enjoy autonomy.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
21. No shit! At the time, we were probably taking home $50.00 to $60.00 a week.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 03:09 PM
Aug 2014

and we could still afford to take summers off. Gas was less than 25 cents a gallon and $2..00 would fill our VW for a week. After Ray Gun was elected, vacations of any kind became rare and short. Note even the American term vacation, like you are vacating your responsibilities as opposed to the European "Holiday" like in holy day.

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