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K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:34 PM Apr 2012

Obama is Absolutely Tearing It Up..

Last edited Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:59 PM - Edit history (4)

Live on MSNBC right now - in Boca Raton, Florida - speaking about the effects of the new proposed Ryan Budget, taxes, education.. giving concrete examples and really explaining things in a way I've never heard from him before. I do believe he's given up on bipartisanship, finally. The audience is going wild.

This Obama is unbeatable. Wow.

"This is where you come in.. I want you to call your members of congress, write them, tweet them. Remind them who they work for. Tell them to do the right thing. Each of us is here because somebody, somewhere took responsibility for other people. A lot of them did without so that you could benefit. That's what responsibility means, and so you're not just thinking about yourself, you're thinking about your family, your nation, your future."

"And now, its our turn to be responsible. It's our turn to preserve The American dream for future generations. It's our turn to rebuild, to make sure we have the most competetive work force on earth, to make sure that we have clean energy that can help clean the planet and help fuel the economy. It's our turn to rebuild our roads and bridges and airports and ports. It's our turn to make sure that every person, every child here, if they're willing to dream big dreams and put blood, sweat and tears behind it, they can make it. I know we can do that. We can do that because of you. You're here because you believe in your future. You're working hard. Some of you are balancing job and family on the side. You have faith in America. You know it's not going to be easy but you don't give up. That's the spirit we need right now.

Because here in America, we don't give up. Here in America, we look out for each other. Here in America, we help each other get ahead. Here in America, we can meet any challenge. Here in America we can seize any moment. We can seize this moment and we can make this century another great American century."


HOLY MOTHER.. I couldn't type as fast as he was talking.

I want this thing in a booklet. This is our battle cry. "Here in America, we can."



CSPAN of Video (thanks WheelWalker) http://www.c-span.org/Events/Pres-Obama-Speaks-to-Florida-Students-about-The-Economy/10737429737/

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Obama is Absolutely Tearing It Up.. (Original Post) K Gardner Apr 2012 OP
DU rec...nt SidDithers Apr 2012 #1
This is the Obama we have been waiting for... kentuck Apr 2012 #2
Oh man, he certainly did. This is going to be the news for awhile, I'm K Gardner Apr 2012 #5
I've been seeing him like that for a long time. Whisp Apr 2012 #18
I think the news has been wrapped up in sweater vests and car elevators. Maybe now K Gardner Apr 2012 #24
Wanna bet skydive forever Apr 2012 #25
$10k? I was gonna say Tweety would probably cover it, but Hardball is already written.. K Gardner Apr 2012 #26
And these are the 4 years we have been waiting for. DevonRex Apr 2012 #102
We get Great Speeches, Corporations get Great Laws.... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #3
I think there may be a small difference with this speech... kentuck Apr 2012 #6
+100 K Gardner Apr 2012 #8
appealing to a broader base of Americans is what politicians do come election time Skittles Apr 2012 #81
what about a great congress? uponit7771 Apr 2012 #22
Obviously, Paul Ryan and Republicans are figments of your imagination. emulatorloo Apr 2012 #71
The best that corporate money can buy. Jeff Murdoch Apr 2012 #80
We have seriously got to work NOW towards electing them. DevonRex Apr 2012 #103
Ain't that the truth! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2012 #84
Commentators now going back to "BRILLIANT ORATOR".. he is ON FIRE ! K Gardner Apr 2012 #4
It was great. Now we gotta make sure all those young people vote. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #7
You are 100% correct. Build it from the ground up, again. It has to be done. I think Rachel K Gardner Apr 2012 #10
+1 ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #15
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #40
GOPers are TOAST.....maybe ...gasp....FOREVER..... opihimoimoi Apr 2012 #9
Obama must've hit a big GOP Nerve. Ron Christie just had a screaming meltdown on K Gardner Apr 2012 #12
And then there's Ron Christie, taking up space. He tried so hard to push repubs but monmouth Apr 2012 #11
He was outta control, LOL !! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #13
Yes but too much shouting. elleng Apr 2012 #16
Maybe he's given up on bi-partisanship for the election. Cleita Apr 2012 #14
Got a link here from C-Span... WheelWalker Apr 2012 #17
Excellent.. thank you !! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #21
Listening now... Can hardly wait until this comes out on youtube! freshwest Apr 2012 #42
He's directly going for the Christie and Bush spiels shown today on DU... freshwest Apr 2012 #43
Long ago I predicted a second "I tried it your way" term. Gregorian Apr 2012 #19
Is that today, or a replay of a 2008 speech? gratuitous Apr 2012 #20
OK. Go back to sleep. As for me, I choose to hope we'll do better. n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #23
The MAIN difference between the individual and a corporation: Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #27
Yes, you are right. And I think every person on this site, and a good portion of the "thinking K Gardner Apr 2012 #32
Mitt will have problems with this PatrynXX Apr 2012 #28
Bingo. And today, we're running against Mitt. He'll probably try to deliver a "Barn Burner" K Gardner Apr 2012 #37
rec handmade34 Apr 2012 #29
I was listening to his speech on Randi Rhodes' radio show. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #30
Barn Burner ! That's exactly what it was ! Thanks for sharing that ! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #33
Cue the "all talk, no action" posts... MineralMan Apr 2012 #31
Oh, they started upthread a ways... :-) eom K Gardner Apr 2012 #35
Yah...watch for more in the coming days. MineralMan Apr 2012 #36
I think the term for it is "damage control" emulatorloo Apr 2012 #72
hang it around their necks and make them own it cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #34
This is important for the people in Florida with all that's going on in Sanford. freshwest Apr 2012 #38
That's a very good point. This is the Obama we need right now.. K Gardner Apr 2012 #39
I'm still listening... He's refuting all the garbage the GOP is putting out today! freshwest Apr 2012 #44
Dylan Ratigan covered some of it.. I think this is going to "have legs".. and I agree about the K Gardner Apr 2012 #45
Apparently, people in the RL don't see things the same as they do in VL. Fresh air matters. freshwest Apr 2012 #48
He better be careful if "Romney With Balls" shows up. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #41
OMG... that's the funniest thing I've ever seen !! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #46
It's from the "Red State Update" crew. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #47
awesome KurtNYC Apr 2012 #50
Hilarious! Thanks for the link! SunSeeker Apr 2012 #62
Tweety runs the Buffett Clip from the speech and calls it "The Fairness Doctrine." K Gardner Apr 2012 #49
Tks! patrice Apr 2012 #51
Right. on. point. Good teaching! also good Listening!! Govt funded by you is oblgtd to be effective. patrice Apr 2012 #52
Oh.. he hit ALL the points. Spot on. As JLo says "I had goosies".. :-) K Gardner Apr 2012 #54
very insightful AND real. patrice Apr 2012 #64
Free the Students!!! patrice Apr 2012 #53
Demand-side (not 8+ yrs of supply) economic communities. Very strong on education & environment. patrice Apr 2012 #55
Thanks for the video link. Watching. Excellent. geckosfeet Apr 2012 #56
This is the type of crowd that Romney or Santorum can only dream of. Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #57
LOL.. and they won't EVER cover it, simply because Romney can't draw these crowds OR K Gardner Apr 2012 #58
Yes, we can! patrice Apr 2012 #59
Free Schools!! Day Care everywhere. patrice Apr 2012 #60
His BEST speech, ever. patrice Apr 2012 #61
DAMN. Now I GOTTA watch it. nt SunSeeker Apr 2012 #63
Great Speech FightForChange Apr 2012 #65
Me too! I've missed him! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #66
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #67
Did you get that from Lady Blah-blah? lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #68
Probably.. that was its 5th post here. n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #69
He didn't even make it ten minutes. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #70
Queen of Babble-on? lastlib Apr 2012 #74
How could I have forgotten this? Brigid Apr 2012 #98
Enjoy it while it lasts. Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #73
I worked like a maniac to elect our prez, and although this year I don't have as much time... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #75
Last time I had plenty of $$ to donate.. this time, I've got plenty of time.. K Gardner Apr 2012 #76
Work Locally Taverner Apr 2012 #78
Seriously, imagine a second Obama presidency with a Democratic Congress. Taverner Apr 2012 #77
I imagine that ALL the time.. dreams are still glorious things, Taverner :-) K Gardner Apr 2012 #79
Yes, it's called an election year. Maven Apr 2012 #82
Good to see you - realist.+ emilyg Apr 2012 #83
Thanks for stopping by and inserting much-needed pessimism into the K Gardner Apr 2012 #85
It's either "all talk" or "it's an election year" great white snark Apr 2012 #86
Don't leave out the calls for Obama to "use the bully pulpit!!!" JoePhilly Apr 2012 #87
GWSnark and Philly - you both nailed every reply that's been put up K Gardner Apr 2012 #91
Some people really never learn. Maven Apr 2012 #96
"Some people really never learn." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #97
Too little too late. The man has no fight in him. Good speeches yes, fight no. Hotler Apr 2012 #88
Here's a good ProSense Apr 2012 #89
Campaign Obama is back. obxhead Apr 2012 #90
Who really cares what you "believe"? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #92
Yes, obxhead Apr 2012 #101
Did you miss the question? Let me repeat...."Who really cares what you believe"? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #104
I could ask the same of you. obxhead Apr 2012 #105
I repeat. What makes you think anyone in a celebratory thread, by a "supporter", gives two.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #107
This is a discussion forum that I am a member of. obxhead Apr 2012 #110
"Your truth" is yours, and yours alone. As for my reaction? I merely pointed out that this was.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #112
This is your second comment obxhead Apr 2012 #113
You can't be that naive. Freeper? There are "liberal" sites who would make FR blush... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #115
Does this mean THE ROCK OBAMA has emerged? Zalatix Apr 2012 #93
Rock Obama AND Snark Obama.. he's gettin' a little feisty and I like it ! n/t K Gardner Apr 2012 #94
GOP's gonna get mauled in the SNARK Tank! Zalatix Apr 2012 #95
Hot Damn! Brigid Apr 2012 #99
Hot Damn! Brigid Apr 2012 #100
Tell me-- when he offered to put Social Security on the chopping block, Marr Apr 2012 #106
Hey, I just saw a brand spanking new anti-Obama screed, posted by you know who.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #108
I'll post where I please, thank you. Marr Apr 2012 #109
Of course you will. The anonymity of the internetz allows you to do that. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #111
Awww, are you exicted at the prospect of thinning the ranks a bit? Marr Apr 2012 #114
I'm actually "excited at the prospect" of "Democrats" coming together to get the job done. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #116

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
5. Oh man, he certainly did. This is going to be the news for awhile, I'm
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:43 PM
Apr 2012

betting.

I remember THIS Barack Obama.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. I've been seeing him like that for a long time.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:51 PM
Apr 2012

I'm just waiting for others to finally see it.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
24. I think the news has been wrapped up in sweater vests and car elevators. Maybe now
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:00 PM
Apr 2012

they'll start giving some air time to the President. They can't really ignore a performance like he gave today. At least, I hope they can't.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
26. $10k? I was gonna say Tweety would probably cover it, but Hardball is already written..
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:06 PM
Apr 2012

they'll probably not deviate from script.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
102. And these are the 4 years we have been waiting for.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:55 PM
Apr 2012

Lets all make sure we work for Congress and Senate as well. That's the only way we'll get much of our agenda passed, such as repeal of DOMA and better health care, education, etc. Pres can't do it all by himself, now can he?

THIS is our time. And WE are who we've been waiting for. WE've got to step up to the plate.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
6. I think there may be a small difference with this speech...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:43 PM
Apr 2012

He is saying things that will appeal to a broader base of Americans, in my opinion. We need him to stay on this message...

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
103. We have seriously got to work NOW towards electing them.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012

He can't do it alone. He'll sign good legislation that comes to his desk. So let's get to work people! Fired up?

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
4. Commentators now going back to "BRILLIANT ORATOR".. he is ON FIRE !
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:42 PM
Apr 2012

I'd transcribe this, but I didn't have my DVR on.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
10. You are 100% correct. Build it from the ground up, again. It has to be done. I think Rachel
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
Apr 2012

was talking last night about how the GOP has no grassroots, has to fly people in by plane to organize before primaries, etc., really a mess. We'll really be missing a chance if we let this slip away this time.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
11. And then there's Ron Christie, taking up space. He tried so hard to push repubs but
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:48 PM
Apr 2012

Martin will have none of it. Poor Ron, a losing battle he fights...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. Maybe he's given up on bi-partisanship for the election.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:49 PM
Apr 2012

My hope is that as a lame duck President he will do what needs to be done.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
19. Long ago I predicted a second "I tried it your way" term.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:53 PM
Apr 2012

Thanks for sharing this..

They can't say he didn't give them what they wanted. Now they can all go Cheney themselves. At least I hope he's going to come out with what we know he is really made of.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Is that today, or a replay of a 2008 speech?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 03:54 PM
Apr 2012

Because I heard a LOT of this during the 2008 campaign. And when the rubber hit the road in 2010, we got stuck with another two years (at least) of the ruinous Bush-era tax policy. Even during the lame duck session of Congress, when outgoing Democrats couldn't possibly be hurt by it, neither Congress nor the President could be found to say, "You know what? Just let those lower tax rates expire. They were originally given a 10-year fuse in order to make the numbers come out right for a balanced budget. But they clearly haven't done what they were supposed to do, we're deeper in debt than ever. Let's go back to the Clinton-era tax brackets, when we had not just a balanced budget, but a surplus! And the great thing is, we can accomplish this by doing nothing. The Republicans don't get another say in the matter."

So wake me when something happens, rather than just gets talked about. "This is the best we could have done" is an excuse, not an explanation.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
27. The MAIN difference between the individual and a corporation:
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:10 PM
Apr 2012

An individual relies on speeches and pundits to decide who is on their side. And then they vote between two candidates largely funded by corporations.

Corporations have Armies of Lobbyists who pour over every line of legislation to decide who is on their side. And then they dole out big $$$ to those who are.

The inevitable result:

We get Great Speeches, Corporations get Great Laws.

And it's not just Obama, it's just about every politician who operates within this system. It has taken small d democracy to the grave. The consequences of THAT are so profound, I don't believe anyone has wrapped their brain around it.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
32. Yes, you are right. And I think every person on this site, and a good portion of the "thinking
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:16 PM
Apr 2012

electorate", KNOWS what you say is true. I can't solve that right at this moment. I'd like to see a corrupt political system completely restructured. But I don't think it's something I can fix. What I can do is be aware of it. And what I can do it vote for the person who gives us a better chance of surviving...and for a few minutes, I can get excited again about politics.

Don't rain on my parade

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
28. Mitt will have problems with this
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:11 PM
Apr 2012

He's not a great speaker. Why did Reagan win? let alone another term. Certainly not on the quality of his work but on his speeches. Could use all the money you want but it's hard to go up against someone who can explain things better than the hight of the trees

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
37. Bingo. And today, we're running against Mitt. He'll probably try to deliver a "Barn Burner"
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:19 PM
Apr 2012

of his own now that Ricky is out.. but I predict an epic fail.

MineralMan

(146,327 posts)
36. Yah...watch for more in the coming days.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:19 PM
Apr 2012

There's an insidious sort of feel to that, I think. It won't make much difference in the election, but it's troublesome.

emulatorloo

(44,176 posts)
72. I think the term for it is "damage control"
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:58 PM
Apr 2012

Their "Dems are just the same" narrative is unraveling, they don't like when that happens.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
38. This is important for the people in Florida with all that's going on in Sanford.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:22 PM
Apr 2012

It shows there is a way to make things better, instead of falling into the dichotomy that Faux is spewing there, inciting a race war. Obama will steal the thunder from the Nazis and all of them.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
39. That's a very good point. This is the Obama we need right now..
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:29 PM
Apr 2012

but (you knew there was gonna be a 'but') - the better he gets, and man he was smokin' today - the more blowback he's going to get. We know where they'll "go".. we just have to be ready to push back.

No more Rev Wright. No more atheist socialist muslim. No more community organizer. No more.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
44. I'm still listening... He's refuting all the garbage the GOP is putting out today!
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Apr 2012

On the spiritual level, he's changing the atmosphere of Florida. I doubt FNN in FL or nationally will cover him, but the good will of those students will spread.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
45. Dylan Ratigan covered some of it.. I think this is going to "have legs".. and I agree about the
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 04:52 PM
Apr 2012

spirituality of what he is doing. The tweets from those kids were going nuts while he was speaking. Its the Ripple Effect.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
49. Tweety runs the Buffett Clip from the speech and calls it "The Fairness Doctrine."
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:19 PM
Apr 2012

Robert Reich: "We're going to see the most populus campaign since Al Gore".

(al gore?)

patrice

(47,992 posts)
52. Right. on. point. Good teaching! also good Listening!! Govt funded by you is oblgtd to be effective.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:42 PM
Apr 2012

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
54. Oh.. he hit ALL the points. Spot on. As JLo says "I had goosies".. :-)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:43 PM
Apr 2012

Right up there with some of his 2008 speeches.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
55. Demand-side (not 8+ yrs of supply) economic communities. Very strong on education & environment.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:47 PM
Apr 2012

. . . butt kicking re taxes.

Pedalling Trickle Down theories - are doubling down rather than moderate for something different than tax cuts for SOME & AUSTERITY for the Workers.

Rising Health Care costs.

Economic collapse!

2050 Republican goal to get cuts done on basic research or student loans.

Show us YOUR cuts to budgets & YOUR tax breaks . . .

Strengthening those investments, making

Education MORE affordable!

Expanding clean energy

Deficit IS too high

but Repbs BUDGET want to spend almost $5 million on tax breaks, 150K$ for every millre & billnre

Repbs ignore their War DEBTS!!!

....................................................

Wow!

What a kick-butt speech!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
57. This is the type of crowd that Romney or Santorum can only dream of.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:56 PM
Apr 2012

While this was on MSNBC, I turned away to CNN and they were airing it as well. Then I turned to Fox News, but it wasn't on there. I wonder why...

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
58. LOL.. and they won't EVER cover it, simply because Romney can't draw these crowds OR
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:58 PM
Apr 2012

elicit this type of excitement. I'm glad CNN had it, too.

Response to K Gardner (Original post)

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
98. How could I have forgotten this?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:28 PM
Apr 2012

One of the funniest political moments ever. That guy in the background is like, "Huh? Why did they set up that on-camera interview here?"

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
75. I worked like a maniac to elect our prez, and although this year I don't have as much time...
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:57 PM
Apr 2012

I'm going to work to get him elected again. No way I'm going to risk another Repugnican being elected. As long as I'm alive I'll fight against the a-holes.

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
76. Last time I had plenty of $$ to donate.. this time, I've got plenty of time..
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
Apr 2012

I'll be working just as hard !

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
77. Seriously, imagine a second Obama presidency with a Democratic Congress.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:00 PM
Apr 2012

Things might actually turn in that....

I worry it will be more like 96, but it could be as glorious as 04

Maven

(10,533 posts)
82. Yes, it's called an election year.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:13 AM
Apr 2012

Come January, we'll be back to "Third Way" vacillation and getting behind conservative economic policies because we don't have the votes, he had no choice politically, he's not a king/wizard/magician etc etc etc

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
85. Thanks for stopping by and inserting much-needed pessimism into the
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:07 AM
Apr 2012

thread. I swear, if I started out every day not being able to have a shred of hope and thinking glass totally empty totally all the time..

I wouldn't be able to make it. Glad you are able to and can share the misery with everyone else.

Have a wonderful day !

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
86. It's either "all talk" or "it's an election year"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:19 AM
Apr 2012

That way every day is covered.

My take is no matter what effin' day it is, that speech was inspiring and motivating. Thanks for posting this K Gardner.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
87. Don't leave out the calls for Obama to "use the bully pulpit!!!"
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:28 AM
Apr 2012

Then when Obama uses it, they scream "pretty speech!!"

K Gardner

(14,933 posts)
91. GWSnark and Philly - you both nailed every reply that's been put up
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:32 AM
Apr 2012

for the past hour or so.. LOL. You guys know this place well

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
97. "Some people really never learn."
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:21 PM
Apr 2012

Au contraire. I think we've learned a great deal, and "you are living proof of that".

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
88. Too little too late. The man has no fight in him. Good speeches yes, fight no.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:35 AM
Apr 2012

None of the war criminals and crooks on Wall St. have gone to jail and never will. He had chance after chance to tell the repugs to go fuck themselves, but instead went and played golf with them. He gives a good speech though.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
90. Campaign Obama is back.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

I'll believe Obama is actually turning left after the election. Until then I'll assume it's pandering.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
92. Who really cares what you "believe"?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:38 PM
Apr 2012

"Turning left" is subjective. He never had to "turn" anything for most of us. We know who we supported and ultimately elected in '08. He's not saying anything now that he hasn't been saying all along. He certainly can't be blamed for folk's ignorance of the facts.

:edited for duplicate sentence:

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
101. Yes,
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 01:40 PM
Apr 2012

we know where you stand on Obama.

I however choose to live in reality and judge our President by his actions not his speeches.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
104. Did you miss the question? Let me repeat...."Who really cares what you believe"?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
Apr 2012
We all know where you stand as well, which is why you're so out of place in this thread.
 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
105. I could ask the same of you.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:10 PM
Apr 2012

This is a discussion forum, a place to discuss beliefs.

If you don't care why have you gone out of your way to point it out?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
107. I repeat. What makes you think anyone in a celebratory thread, by a "supporter", gives two....
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:36 PM
Apr 2012

&@#&& what you think about this speech? There are tons of anti-Obama threads for folks like you, but you felt the need to dump a turd in this one? Why?

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
110. This is a discussion forum that I am a member of.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:11 PM
Apr 2012

I simply pointed out my feelings on the OP.

You can feel however you would like to feel about my comment. I really don't care.

The fact is President Obama has spoken and acted different as President than he did during his campaign. Given the fact that we are again in an active campaign season I won't put any stock in his rhetoric until this campaign season has concluded and Obama begins to actively pursue the many things he will no doubt promise for my vote.

There is a school of thought that says "the truth hurts." Based on your reaction to my posts, I must have written a bit of truth.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
112. "Your truth" is yours, and yours alone. As for my reaction? I merely pointed out that this was....
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
Apr 2012

a celebratory thread, and there are a ton of sites (of which I'm sure you're familiar) dedicated to trashing Pres. Obama. Many of those sites direct their attacks at this one. Hopefully, now that The Mittster has essentially locked up the nomination, which means the primary season is all but over, and DU's general campaign season rules will go into effect.

Pres. Obama's the nominee, whether you like it or not, and that tickles the shit outta me.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
113. This is your second comment
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:39 PM
Apr 2012

coming dangerously close to accusing me of being a freeper.

The fact is I campaigned for Obama in 2008 and I fully support a true Democratic platform. I don't feel Obama has lived up to my expectations from 2008.

I support my right to post the comment as I wish, within the threads that I wish to, within the rules of the site.

You may not agree with my opinion and that is your right. It is not your right to tell how and where I should express that opinion as long as there is no TOS violation of the forum.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
115. You can't be that naive. Freeper? There are "liberal" sites who would make FR blush...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 05:09 PM
Apr 2012

in their disdain for this president. The fact that your mind went straight to "freeper" is between you & the figments of your own imagination.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
106. Tell me-- when he offered to put Social Security on the chopping block,
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 02:23 PM
Apr 2012

was that an example of "looking out for each other" or building "another great American century"?

You hear an inspiring promise, I hear more empty campaign marketing.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
108. Hey, I just saw a brand spanking new anti-Obama screed, posted by you know who....
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 03:46 PM
Apr 2012

why not check in there? This one is obviously for "supporters".

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
111. Of course you will. The anonymity of the internetz allows you to do that.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:24 PM
Apr 2012

Doesn't matter because for all intents and purposes, now that Mitt Romney is the undisputed nominee of the Repuke Party, I'm told the rules around here are getting ready to change. I'm sure you've heard that as well? Last gasps....and all.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
114. Awww, are you exicted at the prospect of thinning the ranks a bit?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
Apr 2012

Or maybe I should say, 'a bit more'.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,239 posts)
116. I'm actually "excited at the prospect" of "Democrats" coming together to get the job done.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 05:14 PM
Apr 2012

All the noise is a minor distraction, nothing more. But I think it's important for those seeking the re-election of the president to be allowed to work toward that end, and taking back the House.

Democrats know that Romney's the enemy, and these startup parties that have recently sprung up only serve to help Mitt Romney. I'm just hopeful that Skinner will enforce his own rules, and soon.

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