Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:40 PM Aug 2014

You Gotta Be Fucking Kidding Me !!! - This Is One Sick And Cruel Joke...

Ferguson Police Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
Saki Knafo - HuffPo
Posted: 08/22/2014 3:50 pm EDT Updated: 27 minutes ago

<snip>

It’s been nearly two weeks since a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, shot and killed an unarmed teenager, but the police department has yet to offer a full account of the hazy circumstances surrounding Michael Brown’s death.

An official incident report, which the American Civil Liberties Union obtained from police and released on Friday, answers none of the pressing questions that hang over the killing. If anything, it raises new ones.

The two-page document is almost entirely blank. It includes the address, time of day and a handful of other bare-bones details, but does not include a description of the scene, quotes from eyewitnesses, names of the officers involved, or any other pieces of information normally found on such documents.


“What’s going on?” asked Vanita Gupta, legal director of the ACLU. “What’s the Ferguson police chief thinking? What he’s doing?”

“We spent a fair amount of time looking at these two incident reports, trying to understand what they say, and frankly, more what they don’t say,” Gupta added. “They just further demonstrate the lack of transparency and lack of information that is being provided by the Ferguson police department about about the Michael Brown shooting.”

The Ferguson police department did not immediately respond to a voicemail requesting comment. The department only released the document after the ACLU filed a lawsuit demanding access to all incident reports pertaining to the shooting, Gupta said. Two and a half lines at the top of the report appear to be redacted.

<snip>

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/ferguson-police-incident-report_n_5701131.html

ACLU Doc (.pdf file): http://www.aclu-mo.org/files/4314/0871/7727/Ferguson_Police_incident_report.pdf







64 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
You Gotta Be Fucking Kidding Me !!! - This Is One Sick And Cruel Joke... (Original Post) WillyT Aug 2014 OP
Cover. Up. immoderate Aug 2014 #1
Lawyers are gonna be crawling over these douchebags hifiguy Aug 2014 #2
Ferguson is corrupt to it's core... BklnDem75 Aug 2014 #3
This will get resolved 0JSimpson Aug 2014 #4
Welcome to DU panader0 Aug 2014 #6
Maybe it's OJ? cwydro Aug 2014 #7
He's in the slammer. Don't think so. hifiguy Aug 2014 #8
Please give thought to your user name. Paper Roses Aug 2014 #50
My bad 0JSimpson Aug 2014 #61
Contact the admins. They should allow you to change it. Paper Roses Aug 2014 #63
Gotta pick your words carefully when engaging in a cover-up BainsBane Aug 2014 #5
LOL, exactly. It's literally fill-in-the-blanks as may be useful or necessary. n/t R B Garr Aug 2014 #46
More like, do not say anything you do not have too n/t mrdmk Aug 2014 #58
Wow that's BS treestar Aug 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author lunasun Aug 2014 #10
From cold blooded murder, to leaving the body on street 5 hours, now this ... 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #11
Total travishamockery. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #18
These racist punks dont deserve the title cop or american BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #26
Welcome to ignore for the inappropriate (sexist) photo. roody Aug 2014 #36
You are right, that was inappropriate will delete it BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #37
Reminds me of the South in the '60s. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #48
Yup. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #56
Nothing compared with the South in the '50s. RebelOne Aug 2014 #62
I'm just shocked that it wasn't written in crayon. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #12
K&R for exposure. JEB Aug 2014 #13
First 2 lines of report appear to be redacted !! lunasun Aug 2014 #14
Even if those two lines had not been omitted ... surrealAmerican Aug 2014 #15
. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #16
3 things can explain all this ... aggiesal Aug 2014 #17
Door number three, Monty! TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #20
Oooo, oooo I know ... #3 n/t etherealtruth Aug 2014 #28
Ferguson PD thinks they're cute justiceischeap Aug 2014 #19
But but but... Rex Aug 2014 #21
I half expect the next thing they'll claim is the cop found the body already dead. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #22
They claimed Brown's body lay there for 5 hours because of all the "investigation" they had to do. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #23
Oh don’t you worry SunSeeker.. busterbrown Aug 2014 #24
18 pages in a report heaven05 Aug 2014 #25
Seriously?!! Chemisse Aug 2014 #41
sorry it was19 pages heaven05 Aug 2014 #53
we MUST SEE, we DEMAND TO SEE Federal Charges filed...period BaggersRDumb Aug 2014 #27
Doubleyew Tee Eff INDEED! trof Aug 2014 #29
oh now, we've been assured that this is SOP for many PDs.. frylock Aug 2014 #30
Not surprised! This has been a cover-up from LibGranny Aug 2014 #31
hmmm, this is an interesting adjunct to NJCher Aug 2014 #32
If they're filling out those silly police reports, they not out shooting innocent people. santamargarita Aug 2014 #33
Kick !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #35
Thank You Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #38
Some people need to lose their jobs and TNNurse Aug 2014 #39
It's pretty clear nothing happened, move along. grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #40
I think they need to clean out the whole PD. Chemisse Aug 2014 #42
Oh and here's another one. Chemisse Aug 2014 #55
A cover up for extensive corruption. blackspade Aug 2014 #43
PROSECUTOR SAYS THEY HANDED OVER THE INVESTIGATION uponit7771 Aug 2014 #44
YOUR LINK DOESN'T SAY THAT. n/t JimDandy Aug 2014 #47
People are fornicating around while the FPD is covering up. Time to get serious! mobeau69 Aug 2014 #45
Crump isn't a prosecutor pintobean Aug 2014 #54
The police report was submitted by the county, not the city. Kablooie Aug 2014 #49
All the wait for all the evidence trolls should be up in arms about this. Jappleseed Aug 2014 #51
It does mercuryblues Aug 2014 #52
I can tell you this MoleyRusselsWart Aug 2014 #59
I am of mercuryblues Aug 2014 #60
100% agreed MoleyRusselsWart Aug 2014 #64
The Chief should be replaced Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #57
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Lawyers are gonna be crawling over these douchebags
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:45 PM
Aug 2014

in ways they never even dreamed possible. It will not end well for the schweinerei.

0JSimpson

(5 posts)
4. This will get resolved
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:51 PM
Aug 2014

The Feds aren't going to have a fast one pulled on them. Even if the the murder charge doesn't stick every single person in that department is on their way to prison for obstruction, possibly perjury if they lie to the feds, conspiracy charges, and so many other civil rights charges that I can't even begin to name them.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. He's in the slammer. Don't think so.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:22 PM
Aug 2014

But I don't think this PD - which has demonstrated the collective IQ of a stump to this point - is gonna be able to buffalo the feds.

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
50. Please give thought to your user name.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:33 AM
Aug 2014

Any reference to that man offends many of us. Curious choice.

0JSimpson

(5 posts)
61. My bad
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:28 PM
Aug 2014

I created this user name, thinking it'd be funny, but seeing as no one thinks it's as funny as I had hoped, I tried to change it, but, alas, I can't figure out how to change my username

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
63. Contact the admins. They should allow you to change it.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:56 PM
Aug 2014

Pick a new one and send them a e-mail explaining that your intentions were good but you judgement was off.

Welcome to DU under your new name.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
5. Gotta pick your words carefully when engaging in a cover-up
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:51 PM
Aug 2014

The more you write, the more there is to be tripped up on, I guess.

Response to WillyT (Original post)

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. From cold blooded murder, to leaving the body on street 5 hours, now this ...
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014

... a complete sham mockery of a police report, as if to say FU to everyone and anyone who cares.

Clearly Ferguson Police ARE going out of their way
to insult Blacks everywhere, but especially The Family of Michael Brown


I. Have. No. Words.

 

BaggersRDumb

(186 posts)
26. These racist punks dont deserve the title cop or american
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:57 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Fri Aug 22, 2014, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

ONLY a guilty person does this, ONLY a guilty person does this


ONLY a guilty person does this

ONLY...

Hey Ferguson officials

fuck you

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
62. Nothing compared with the South in the '50s.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:40 PM
Aug 2014

I was there. I grew up in South Florida and remember well the discrimination.

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
12. I'm just shocked that it wasn't written in crayon.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:40 PM
Aug 2014

Guess that's where the redaction came in.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
14. First 2 lines of report appear to be redacted !!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:42 PM
Aug 2014
https://www.aclu.org/secure/donate-aclu?s_src=UNW140801WEB&ms=web_140819_defend_mar
Thank you ACLU for suing to get the information from them sad a report as it is
They released only what they had to

surrealAmerican

(11,879 posts)
15. Even if those two lines had not been omitted ...
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:45 PM
Aug 2014

... it's only two lines. It couldn't have much detail about the shooting, could it?

aggiesal

(10,804 posts)
17. 3 things can explain all this ...
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:49 PM
Aug 2014

1) They're truly corrupt, as stated in earlier posts
2) They're really incompetent, and really don't know what happened.
or
3) Both 1 & 2

I suspect it's #3.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
20. Door number three, Monty!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:56 PM
Aug 2014

These are the type of imperial scum that would catch a force choking from Darth Vader, clumsy and stupid.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
19. Ferguson PD thinks they're cute
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:54 PM
Aug 2014

I think I know what this is. Wilson started to file a report and was told before getting too far into it to stop. However, since the report was started they couldn't throw it out, so they kept it. When the ACLU went to court to get the incident report, they got this. That's my theory anyway.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. But but but...
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:01 PM
Aug 2014

And the hits just keep on coming...they planned for this to be just like all other times they've treated the black community like dirt.

I can't wait to see what the FBI has to say about this.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
23. They claimed Brown's body lay there for 5 hours because of all the "investigation" they had to do.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

So where the fuck is the description of that 5 hours of investigation? The report should be many pages long. WTF?!



busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
24. Oh don’t you worry SunSeeker..
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:42 PM
Aug 2014

A photo will be out shortly showing blood trickling down the face of the cop who shot the kid...

However, won’t it be harder to photoshop waiting this long??

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. 18 pages in a report
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:52 PM
Aug 2014

on the alleged robbery that michael brown supposedly was involved with. 18 page report on some goddamn cigars. This for a murder. Give me a break.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
30. oh now, we've been assured that this is SOP for many PDs..
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

and that the nice officer isn't under any obligation to submit an incident report because of the 5th Amendment. surely, the ACLU is out of it's league here. this is totally on the up and up. nothing to see. please drive through.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
32. hmmm, this is an interesting adjunct to
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 07:35 PM
Aug 2014

what I heard on a radio program. I heard Cyril Wecht, the famous forensics pathologist, was looking into this death and requested info from the police department. They refused certain information.

This comes from his co-author on his books, Dawna Kaufmann.

There's a caveat to this. I wasn't listening closely to the program, being distracted by a project I was working on. But I think this is what I heard.


Cher

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
33. If they're filling out those silly police reports, they not out shooting innocent people.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 07:37 PM
Aug 2014
please don't shoot!

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
39. Some people need to lose their jobs and
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:26 PM
Aug 2014

Some people should go to jail.

Can you send an entire police force to jail at one time??????

Chemisse

(31,346 posts)
42. I think they need to clean out the whole PD.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:53 PM
Aug 2014

Get new - preferably non racist - leadership, and make every one of those officers reapply for their jobs.

Already we've seen 3 bad cops there: the one who killed Brown, the one who pushed the reporter, and the one who said he was going to "fucking shoot" a citizen. Imagine the rot that lies beneath these.

Oh, and edited to say the new PD should mirror the makeup of the community it serves!

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
45. People are fornicating around while the FPD is covering up. Time to get serious!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:59 PM
Aug 2014

The Brown's need to hire a major leaguer like Tom Mesereau. Or better yet, they need to hire Tom Mesereau. I mean no offense to the attorneys of record but if any offense is taken, tough shit. This is no time to mess around with a guy, no matter how much of a gentleman he is, who couldn't get Trayvon Martin's killer convicted. If there's a fund I'll contribute what I can. Mesereau would take these Missouri rubes to school.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
54. Crump isn't a prosecutor
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 09:00 AM
Aug 2014

and neither is Mesereau. A victim's family attorney doesn't try a criminal case, the state does.

Here endith the civics lesson.

Signed, a Missouri rube.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
49. The police report was submitted by the county, not the city.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:47 AM
Aug 2014

And it's with the grand jury right now and won't be released untl they are done with it.

At least that's the story on NBC news.

 

Jappleseed

(93 posts)
51. All the wait for all the evidence trolls should be up in arms about this.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:19 AM
Aug 2014

Oh wait they are not? Hmmm.....

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
52. It does
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:32 AM
Aug 2014

show that the killer cop was on the scene for 7.5 hours afterward. Just how injured was he again?

 

MoleyRusselsWart

(101 posts)
59. I can tell you this
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:52 PM
Aug 2014

I've see enough mild to severe head and eye injuries as a hockey ref of 15 years (and a player for 25) from punches, scuffles and so on to know for a fact, based on the videos of Wilson immediately after the shooting, that he did not receive any substantial injury to his eye. You can tell this by the lack of visual evidence in the videos, but more importantly by his behavior. He received no significant injury, and probably barely any minor ones.

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
60. I am of
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:57 PM
Aug 2014

the opinion that the FPD are so used to not being questioned that they have no choice to obstruct. By not being questioned they are also very poor liars. By having it out there that the cop was on the scene for over 7 hours it proves he was not severely hurt. I don't even think a minor injury. He never rubbed or touched his face where he was supposedly injured.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
57. The Chief should be replaced
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:17 PM
Aug 2014

After the fact that Mike Brown was shot dead while unarmed and his body left uncovered for hours and the horrific behavior of law enforcement officers on the streets of Ferguson, the ugliest thing about this affair has been the willful contempt that law enforcement has shown to the public in this matter. The police have attacked journalists, who while not perfect are the eyes and ears of the public in matters such as this, they have withheld information about the incident that should be routinely disseminated and released information defaming the victim that is immaterial to his incident itself.

This incident report is part of this pattern.

Chief Jackson is clearly irresponsible. He is either orchestrating the stonewalling, winking and nodding while it happens or finds himself in the unfortunate position of presiding over a rogue police force that is out of control. This has got to stop, and it appears that Chief Jackson is not the man to stop it.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»You Gotta Be Fucking Kidd...