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daschess1987

(192 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:40 PM Aug 2014

I salute our Commander-in Chief for not trying to conquer the world...

Suggestion strategies for use against IS: offer incentives to Turkey for sealing off their southern border, arm the shit out of the Kurds, conduct massive drone strikes against them anytime they can be drawn out into the open--especially if they're already on the advance, and avoid God damned tragedies known as "civilian casualties" like the plague.

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I salute our Commander-in Chief for not trying to conquer the world... (Original Post) daschess1987 Aug 2014 OP
Conquering the world is the easy part. Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #1
Hear, hear! k&r n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #2
Well said. What a horrible job being a president is. Most of us couldn't stand it. freshwest Aug 2014 #3
Well said, yourself, freshwest! It's amazing to ponder even wanting the job. calimary Aug 2014 #7
Bomb every US-supplied humvee, artillery piece, tank in ISIS hands Dems to Win Aug 2014 #4
Not conquer the world Turbineguy Aug 2014 #5
I also like the way he stops and thinks about it. Puts a lot of thought and analysis into it. calimary Aug 2014 #6
Maybe we should build self destruct into weapons rickyhall Aug 2014 #8
K&R OP for support of President Obama IrishAyes Aug 2014 #9
Avoiding civilian casualties is not an option. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author daschess1987 Sep 2014 #11

calimary

(81,179 posts)
7. Well said, yourself, freshwest! It's amazing to ponder even wanting the job.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:37 PM
Aug 2014

And it is illuminating to observe the different public strutters flattering themselves into thinking they're presidential material - and arrogant enough to expect millions more to agree. Seriously, sometimes I think anyone who wants to run for president would have to have the ol' noggin examined. Why would you want it? Heck, EVERYBODY's pissed at you all the time, including those ostensibly on your own side. It's the Ultimate Thankless Job.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
4. Bomb every US-supplied humvee, artillery piece, tank in ISIS hands
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:08 PM
Aug 2014

Destroy all the weaponry the US left behind that is now being used by ISIS, then come home and let the people of the region sort out their problems and borders.

That's my proposed strategy.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
6. I also like the way he stops and thinks about it. Puts a lot of thought and analysis into it.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:32 PM
Aug 2014

Isn't the type who juste knee-jerkedly picks up the sword and starts waving it around, stirring things up. I like the cool, reasoned approach. I'd much rather keep the temperature on simmer (or below, even), rather than at a rolling boil.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
8. Maybe we should build self destruct into weapons
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:42 PM
Aug 2014

"Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would’ve immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun."
Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
9. K&R OP for support of President Obama
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:50 PM
Aug 2014

and his understanding that we're actually in worse danger by trying to conquer the whole damned world like the GOP wants.

At least the Kurds have shown they can and will fight to protect themselves. That's the sort of people we should help. While avoiding civilian casualties entirely is next to impossible given how ISIS operates, with that taken into account, I've never known a group in my time whose combat troops needed carpet bombing more. They're bad enough on the best day, but they've at least reportedly taken to crucifying Christian captives. Not much worse way to go.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
10. Avoiding civilian casualties is not an option.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:24 PM
Aug 2014

Unless, and possibly even if, the US acts on a scale that will almost certainly cause moderate numbers of civilian casualties in the short term and potentially larger numbers in the long term, ISIS will murder large numbers of civilians.

All the USA can do is either

a) try to select a course of action that minimises the number of civilian casualties.
b) try to select a course of action that minimises the number of civilian casualties if causes.


I think that a) is probably the right thing to aim for, but b) is not absurd - arguably it's more important not to kill than to save lives. But there is no cause of action available whose likely outcome is not appalling, as far as I can see.

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