Agree or disagree: Denying the historical existence of an entire nation is a very dangerous thing...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

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....and could lead to such things as genocide or imperialistic conquest.

[HERVEPA]

1. Define historical please.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. Dating back multiple centuries. nt

[HERVEPA]

3. Seems pretty arbitrary

Why not 65 years? Not arguing, just wondering how you decide the number.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. Well, the terms themselves are somewhat open to interpretation.

But essentially, what I'm thinking of is a situation where we have generation after generation after generation identifying themselves as a certain people.

[HERVEPA]

5. OK. Thanks for the response.

[Warren Stupidity]

6. If the subject of this is "Ukraine" you need to review the history.

A Ukrainian nation has existed sporadically over the last three centuries, but there is no period of stability of any significant length that one can point to and say "this is (or was) Ukraine". The east/west divisions are very real, not some figment of Russian imperialist ambitions. The state that emerged from the collapse of the USSR was unable to resolve those divisions, and unable to form a functional government of the entire region, a fact that has lead to the current crisis.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

7. The Ukrainian nation has existed for centuries.

The borders, and the existence of an independent state, have fluctuated, but the Ukrainian nation as a group of people has never not existed.

It's Ukraine, not "Ukraine."

[Warren Stupidity]

9. As a political entity? No it hasn't.

And as for your tutorial: It's Ukraine, not "Ukraine." I'm sure you think you learned me, but perhaps not so much?

[Jeneral2885]

8. For Israel?

Yes it was legally ratified by the United Nations which the US supported in its vote.

[boston bean]

10. Usually someone denying the historical existence of something

prove to be racists, misogynists, anti-semites, homophobics and ever other historical existence, that has an ism, there is out there.

[whistler162]

11. You shouldn't be so hard on Atheists1

[boston bean]

13. didn't mean to be.

Didn't even have that in mind.....

but now that you mention it, some atheists do fit the bill. Not ALL. But like any other group, they aren't immune to it.

[sabrina 1]

12. Are you referring to Palestine?