Texas cops ‘swarm’ school, police call for ‘prayer’ over miscarriage in bathroom

[Playinghardball]

Parents in Texas are upset after police reportedly “swarmed” a Texas high school because a girl may have had a miscarriage in one of the bathrooms.

KDFW reported that a school custodian notified the principal at Woodrow Wilson High School after finding a “possible fetus” in one of the bathroom stalls on Friday.

The principal contacted police, who “swarmed” the school, according to KTVT.

“I seen a helicopter and I was really worried,” one student recalled.

Parent Christine Kerry was outraged that she had not been notified as to why so many police had been deployed to the school.

“I got out of my car and specifically asked, ‘What’s going on, and is it safe for these kids to be out here?’” she said. “And I was told to go away.”

The district promised that the parents would get an email explaining what had happened.

“What was found was what appears to be a fetus, or what has been confirmed to be a fetus,” Dallas Independent School District spokesperson Jon Dahlander told reporters. “We have been in the process of trying to notify parents to let them know about this.”

Dallas Police Department’s Child Abuse Unit detectives were investigating to find out who may have abandoned the fetus. The person involved was being considered a “suspect.”

“We’re reviewing video, talking to the teachers, trying to determine if anybody has any knowledge of any student that may have had something going on in their life, and pray,” Dallas Police Major John Lawton said.

Alan Elliott of Baby Moses Dallas explained to KDFW that the mother could have avoided any criminal charges if she had taken advantage of Baby Moses laws by carrying the child to term, and then dropping it off at a safe baby site like a fire station.

“And that’s a happy ending when that happens, because the baby is safe, the mother is protected from any sort of prosecution, so it’s a win-win for both of them,” Elliot noted.

However, it was not immediately clear how far along the pregnancy was, and the cause of the possible miscarriage was not known.

Watch the video below from KTVT, broadcast Aug. 29, 2014.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/02/texas-cops-swarm-school-police-call-for-prayer-over-miscarriage-in-bathroom/

[enough]

1. A swarm of police and a helicopter for a "possible miscarriage."

The hysteria borders on medieval. Next, they'll be getting the stake ready for the burning.

[christx30]

33. I think it shows that the

level of crime in the area doesn't justify the amount of law enforcement currently employed. They need to reduce the police department budget by 30%. Lay off 20% of the force.

[rocktivity]

2. The mother could have avoided any criminal charges by carrying the child to term?

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But what crime did she commit? Maybe the miscarriage was spontaneous! And if she were in her first trimester, it's even possible that she didn't know she was pregnant!


rocktivity

[TNNurse]

25. Alan Elliott

Who is mentioned in the article as the source of that really ignorant quote, is apparently really ignorant of the concept of miscarriage.

[jwirr]

48. Exactly. What in the hell were they going to do with all those police? Shot the mother? A possible

miscarriage is a medical problem and they should have called medical personnel. The OP mentioned medieval - worse than that. Ignorant. And they are running a school.

[awoke_in_2003]

90. and in Texas....

if she were shot they would just keep her on life support to support the fetus.

[Liberal_in_LA]

51. exactly.

[Warpy]

101. Yeah, that bothered me too

Do none of these fucking jackasses know what the word "MISCARRIAGE" means?

This whole thing is bullshit and I wish I could say it could only happen in Texas.

Unfortunately, it can happen anywhere forefeiture has enriched police departments enough to arm them like paramilitaries. It can happen anywhere idiot preachers and politicians go around practicing medicine without licenses.

[liberalhistorian]

108. No, I'm afraid they don't know

what miscarriage means, frankly. I've known too many RW fundies and militant pro-lifers who actually seem to have no concept of miscarriage and what it really is. They think any pregnancy that ends before term, including within the first trimester when most miscarriages occur, is akin to an abortion or, if they do have some understanding of it, they think that the mother "did something" to cause the miscarriage. They simply cannot grasp the concept of a miscarriage and it's truly frightening, as are the implications of that if they get into full power.

This includes police morons like these idiots who descended on the school like locusts as if there were a "miscarriage cartel" inside the school or something. NO concern at all for the medical well-being of the child who'd suffered the miscarriage, NO concern for the fact that she may have needed help. If I were a parent at that school, I'd be raising holy hell over it.

And don't think that this kind of ignorance can't be codified into law, either. I remember an idiot Virginia legislator a few years ago who actually wanted to require women to report any miscarriages to the local POLICE within twenty-four hours of its occurrence, even if they didn't visit a doctor (many times with very early miscarriages, it's not really necessary), and to label it a crime worthy of arrest and charges if they didn't do so, and there were even hints of charges against doctors as well. This idiot not only had no grasp of the concept of miscarriage, he also didn't seem to understand that miscarriages are so common that women often don't even now they've had one or are having one, until well after the 24-hour period he wanted to mandate. Fortunately, the public ridicule was so great that he finally withdrew the bill, but don't think for one second that there's not a lot more where that came from.

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. Should she have dropped the "miscarriage" off at a site like a fire station?

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If this was a miscarriage, this child should be taken care of not vilified.

[PeaceNikki]

5. The fact they are calling it a 'fetus' leads me to believe this was not at a viable stage.

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. Me too, and I can't imagine how frightened she must be.

[Lint Head]

4. Prayer? Give me a break. We need more open talk about women's issues in society and stop

the medieval thinking. If they want to get radical about it and pray. They should think about this. If it was a miscarriage God wanted it to happen and praying won't bring the aborted fetus back to life. Maybe Benny Hinn could be called to raise the dead for them.

[TheBlackAdder]

36. +2.7 million

[locdlib]

65. Exactly. I have heard of Benny Hinn, but never actually listened or watched him

until now. I can only ascertain that he is referencing this god who raised an already dead man is the same god that allows so much strife and mayhem to happen. So, then god is no different than a lot of "parents" in that there are favorites amongst "his children."

[Initech]

71. Yeah I wonder why prayer was the first thing that was brought up.

[libdem4life]

6. Cretins. Poor thing. She had to hide the pregnancy and now this...spontaneous or not. And Daddy

is out there somewhere...wonder if they are swarming the school looking for the father. Maybe they'll send the police house to house looking for unusual quantities of unused pads or tampons. And it NOBODY'S F##### BUSINESS.

[3catwoman3]

23. Back in the late 60s, our PE...

...teachers kept track of our periods, with the offered explanation that they were making sure no one was over-claiming the privilege of using the private shower stalls that was permitted during that time. We'd line up in front of the office door in the locker room while the teacher would make a little "M" next to our names in her grade/attendance book. Being naive and accustomed to strong authority figures, it never occurred to me to refuse to comply, even tho I found it uncomfortable to have everyone in the gym class know what was going on with my body. Pretty creepy.

Years later, I wondered if a covert reason might have been to take note of someone who was not reporting a period at expected intervals because of pregnancy.

Until recently, I would have thought that those days were long gone. Now, I am not so sure.

[Liberal_in_LA]

52. CREEPY

[anneboleyn]

85. Yes, that is very creepy. I am sure there were covert reasons.

[valerief]

105. So you weren't allowed to shower with other girls when you had your period?

What if you had a light flow like I always did and didn't need to shower solo? Wonder what would have happened then.

[3catwoman3]

106. I don't know that is was so much a matter...

...of "not allowed to," as much as a semi-privacy thing. Back in the day, as they say, most of us use were still using those instruments of torture known as belts and pads, which one obviously would not want to wear into a group shower, nor would you want to stand there, using nothing, with blood running down your legs for all to see. Not too many had "graduated" to tampons in the mid- to late- 60s.

I say semi-privacy, because if you were standing in line for the 3 private showers stalls with curtains, everybody knew why you were in line. You just didn't have to take care of business with everyone watching.

Apologies to those who will no doubt consider this TMI. Consider it a history lesson.

[valerief]

110. Oh, yes, I remember the belt and pad days, too. I just never had a period that

ran down my legs. It was always light. So I was wondering what it was for girls like that.

Back in my school, we weren't lucky enough to take showers. We basically just changed into our white blouse and blue bloomers and stretched for a half hour. That was our PE with the nuns.

[MadrasT]

107. They did this at my school in the early 80's too. n/t

[jwirr]

50. Oh, my you mentioned the Daddy. Now you know that they will never bother to worry about that

because he was done with his "job".

[libdem4life]

78. Yeah, that's a little detail that gets a bit lost in the investigation. Who's your Daddy?

Oops...child support, uh, it was only a quick screw dudes.

[Generic Other]

7. Will they DNA test all the girls next?

This is beyond horrifying. Cops swarmed a school over this? With helicopters? And SWAT? Then what? Count the number of personal hygiene products left in the bathroom dispenser? Make the school nurse conduct involuntary exams? Make all the girls bring a doctor's note clearing them of any involvement? Forcing the girls to be prayed over by fundie nutjobs?

Texas education. Not for those with a weak stomach.

[Louisiana1976]

34. I agree. Not only is it beyond horriifying it's just plain nuts.

[Blue_Tires]

70. I have a feeling a law indirectly authorizing that is right around the corner

[Generic Other]

72. They will have to wipe my dna off their faces

when I spit in their eye!

[Ilsa]

74. talk about a violation of civil rights. Most of these girls

won't want to go to school if they think someone is going to give them a physical at school. If I had a daughter there, I'd keep her out until the dust settled. Girls at this age can be very sensitive about their bodies.

[catrose]

8. She probably didn't know what was going on

I didn't when I was 26. There was just all this blood and it wouldn't stop...

[Fla Dem]

35. 26 or 16? nt

[catrose]

45. 26

The doctor had told me I wasn't pregnant; so it never crossed my mind that he might be wrong.

[Fla Dem]

46. Sorry,I just thought you meant in high school you didn't understand, because this was in a HS. nt

[catrose]

49. I realize that it was in a HS

My point was that if I didn't immediately know what was going on as a theoretically grown woman, the child might not have known either and the expectations of her might have been unreasonable, if not completely insane.

[ZombieHorde]

10. I imagine this could be very scary for multiple reasons for the girl.

I very much hope she has a strong support system consisting of family and friends.

[Louisiana1976]

37. I hope so too.

[tblue37]

11. A "suspect" for WHAT crime? a miscarriage is not a crime, and if it was a fetus rather than

a live birth, then no crime occurred. If, on the other hand, it was a self-administered medical abortion, then there is still no crime. If this was a fetus, not a live birth, then the mother could not have dropped the baby off to be fostered and adopted. If it was a miscarriage, she had no way to "choose" to carry the fetus to term.

And if it was in fact a live birth and a deliberate killing of a viable infant, then the cops, the administrators, and the reporter are all blithering idiots for calling it a fetus all the time.

Idiots, idiots, idiots. They traumatized a whole school full of students, as well as their parents. If the girl had a miscarriage, then she is being victimized and doubly traumatized at a time when she is probably an *emotionally fragile CHILD* herself.

And unless that fetus was well armed and spraying bullets around the school, they did not need to have all those cops called in.

How bloody STUPID can they get before rational people start slamming clue-by-fours upside their useless heads?

[Lars39]

18. "And unless that fetus was well armed and spraying bullets around the school..."

I'm going to borrow that one, if I may.

[tblue37]

19. Feel free to do so. nt

[ReRe]

47. Seriously!

What the hell has a miscarriage in a bathroom stall have to do with the GD police? It's a crime to have a miscarriage? I'm writing this one off as Police State overkill!

[get the red out]

54. It just occurred to me

Scare the other girls in the school into submission. Let them know what awaits them if anything like this happens to them. Put worse than the "fear of God" into those girls.

[Ilsa]

76. Uh, the "mother" is dangerous and might abort/miscarry

another one in fifteen minutes if they don't stop her!!!!! More police! Bring out the mine-resistant tank! Tazers!! Kevlar!

[Spacemom]

12. please stop the world

I want to get off.

Have people lost their friggin minds!? Let's send out the helicopters and pray over a bloody toilet bowl.

I work from home and don't go out much. At times I start thinking I should make an effort to be more part of the world. Then I read something like this and I just want to put another lock on the door.

[tosh]

21. We have so much in common, Spacemom.

It is like you are speaking for me.

[LittleGirl]

31. same here

I just really wonder about humans anymore.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. Me, too.

Was just thinking this morning that I ought to just stay away from the Internet, because there's so much shit going on that I just want to find a cabin deep in the woods and never see another human again.

Yet here I am, watching the debacle again. The whole world is turning into one of those awful car wrecks that you don't want to see but still can't help looking at.

[Ilsa]

77. But we are the ones that need to go out

and shake them up for their stupidity.

[gollygee]

13. How could the person involved be a suspect?

I'm really troubled by a lot of this.

First, what is she suspected of? Miscarrying? How can they call her a suspect?

Second, she can avoid criminal charges for miscarrying by carrying the baby to term and dropping it off at a fire station?

This is where the anti-choice agenda leads, folks. Women and girls who miscarry get to face the miscarriage police who try to decide whether she legitimately miscarried, and notice the wording - she's a suspect so the assumption is that she did something wrong. No presumption of innocence for women and girls when they're treated only like vessels and not like full human beings. This is how it is in El Salvador and this is how the anti-choice groups would like it to be here. They're treating a scared kid who miscarried at school like a suspect. They're even calling her a suspect and calling enough police to swarm a school.

If it were even close to viable, people who react to a miscarriage in this way would absolutely be calling it a baby instead of a fetus. And this is the reaction.

[Louisiana1976]

40. Exactly. What's going on is crazy.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

68. + one zillion mega plusses.

Yeah...may I be excused? I've just about had enough.

Imagine how all the girls in Texas (and Michigan and Georgia and Missouri and toomanyothersI'velostcountnow) feel.

[littlemissmartypants]

14. And yet we still are told there is no war on women.

Dear gawd and the GOP:
Get out of my vagina.

[riqster]

57. This^^^

[littlemissmartypants]

15. Kicking in honor of redqueen. nt

[riqster]

59. Damn skippy. She is missed.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

69. ^ n/t

[WCLinolVir]

16. Crazy making BS. Pray for what???

I had a miscarriage at 1 1/2 months on a train from Brussels to Paris. It was not something I could do anything about. And they immediately assume the fetus was aborted unnaturally. WTF. Alan Elliott of Baby Moses!!??? What a moron. This sounds so stupid it could have been written by the Onion. Maybe they should have called a nurse instead. If I ever abort again I'll be sure to drop it off at the fire station. Oh and since they didn't find a bloody coat hanger, I'll assume there was not a crime committed. If the kid took a morning after pill, more power to her.

[jmowreader]

60. Morning-after pills don't usually work when you're that far along

But yeah, the guy from Baby Moses is being more than creepy...insinuating there might be charges filed for a miscarriage. That's Romania-under-Ceaucescu shit, not America.

[WCLinolVir]

93. How far along was she? Article does not say.

"if a woman ingests emergency contraception after fertilization has taken place, the third mode of action can occur. The lining of the uterus can be altered causing the woman's body to reject the living human embryo, making implantation impossible and the child will die."

I am willing to bet the janitor does not moonlight as an OB-GYN. A mess with the lining of the uterus being shed and an embryo could be confusing. But we don't know.
I should know what it looks like, since I had to take it after I was raped and it was a mess.

[jmowreader]

94. An embryo that's early enough to be expelled by morning-after will be microscopic

Any miscarriage (either natural or induced) is going to create a massive mess; if they claim there was a fetus in there, it had to be a few weeks old at least.

[WCLinolVir]

96. Anyone with a medical background might know the difference.

I see that they have confirmed it was a fetus. I also read that they are saying the morning after pill does not necessarily prevent implantation. I did use the term broadly, off the cuff, as there is also another medication available that induces miscarriage.
As for the massive mess, yes I know.

[gollygee]

62. Morning after pills really just work for the morning (and to a lesser extent a few mornings after)

They stop ovulation and are used immediately after sex, so they wouldn't be taken long enough after that there's a visible fetus, and they wouldn't do anything if she took them that late anyway. If they could cause an abortion, they would work a few weeks after sex better than the day after, and they wouldn't be called morning after pills.

[WCLinolVir]

92. Morning after pills.

"if a woman ingests emergency contraception after fertilization has taken place, the third mode of action can occur. The lining of the uterus can be altered causing the woman's body to reject the living human embryo, making implantation impossible and the child will die. " I don't know what the "fetus" looked like, but it can be quite messy.

[gollygee]

95. There's no way a fetus big enough for people to notice it

hadn't implanted in the lining of the uterus a long time earlier.

What you're talking about would be the lining being affected and stopping an embryo from implanting, which would happen a week or so afterward. You're talking about a pretty small number of cells, and something that could be called a zygote rather than an embryo, but absolutely isn't even a fetus yet. Read this: http://www.baby2see.com/development/week4.html That's what you're talking about.

The words "child will die" in your post make it obvious this came from an anti-choice site. No, it wouldn't be any messier than a normal period if implantation were impossible. In fact, that happens often when women are not using contraception at all - it's perfectly normal - and it just means you have your period as normal. There's nothing "quite messy" about it. There's no fetus yet, that word describes something way further along than an embryo/zygote small enough it hasn't implanted yet, and no one would see anything out of the usual or see anything visible by the human eye.

[WCLinolVir]

97. I have taken the morning after pill, and yes, it can be messy and painful.

Have you taken it before? It is not necessarily the same as a regular period. I know mine was not, I thought I had miscarried at the time. I agree that anyone with some idea of what to look for would know it is not necessarily a miscarriage. I did use the term rather broadly, as I know there are drugs that induce miscarriage. And now they say that studies show the morning after pill does not necessarily prevent implantation. I did not intentionally quote an anti-choice site. It was pulled from a medical site. Yes badly written.

[gollygee]

111. Yes, actually I have.

Any period can be messy but it could not have possibly looked like anything other than menstrual blood if it were something where the morning after pill was relevant.

But you were talking about the abortion pill? That makes more sense, but I don't think she would have gone to school after taking that, and she probably would have needed parental consent to get it in Texas. If she had talked to her parents the whole situation would probably have been different.

[whistler162]

113. Probably where the "reporter' got his start!

[Lars39]

17. A happy ending is where the poor girl gets checked out and is given a clean bill of health after all

this. Criminal charges? Fuck that shit.

[uppityperson]

20. What the fuck? Rather than trying to figure out who is having a medical health problem they are

doing all this? WTF?

[nolabear]

22. That poor child.

And by "child" I mean the young girl who miscarried in the restroom of a high school and now is watching as she's called a "suspect," had the police swarm over as though she'd done something heinous to fellow students, had some yahoo speculate that if she'd just-what? Clamped her legs together or performed some magic act to keep the miscarriage from happening, or, more likely, aroused suspicion that it was an abortion, because a high school restroom is such a safe place for that to be done...

She's in danger. And not one soul is saying "Honey, come and let us take care of you. This must have been terrible for you to go through. How can we help?" I swear, I weep for us sometimes.

[LittleGirl]

32. thank you for that post

perfect. so sad.

[gollygee]

42. +1

[BrotherIvan]

91. + infinity

That poor girl is now so afraid to seek medical help, there could be complications. They don't care about a LIVING person, just some blood in a toilet. This is what happens when they outlaw abortion and miscarriage. They want people to go to jail.

[Heidi]

24. Because we can simply choose whether to miscarry or carry a fetus to term, right?

Fanatic nutjobs.

[get the red out]

58. Right!

They could talk to my Mom, I remember how sad she was when she miscarried between me and my sister. Like she could have done a damn thing about it. These fools don't even understand how many pregnancies naturally do not come to term.

[VA_Jill]

26. OMFG

What in HELL is wrong with these people??? Calling the POLICE, fuhgawdsake, and then the police "swarming" the school, sending a HELICOPTER to hover over the place like a destroying angel, and then labeling the poor child who may have had a miscarriage in the bathroom as a "suspect"????? Are these folks out of what passes for their minds?

I guess not, it's just Texas. Or Texass, if you prefer.

[Codeine]

27. That poor young woman. nt

[Moonwalk]

28. They're making it sound like some girl drowned a baby in the high school toilet!

Maybe they should send the cops back to high school for some biology lessons? The stupidity is...I can't even find the words but I hope they get roasted for all this idiocy.

[Old and In the Way]

29. Mandatory pregnancy testing up next!

Can't protect the constitutional rights of a blastocyst if we don't know it exists! I used to post this to point out the absurdity of this thought. But reading how this state reacts to a friggen' miscarriage, this isn't so crazy. Why do they hate the #1 provider of all spontaneous abortions so much (their god)?

[Scootaloo]

30. I'm sorry, I lack words on this one

[catchnrelease]

39. I had to check

After reading a few sentences I had to look to see if it was an article from The Onion. It seemed too far out there to be real. The Handmaids Tale is here.

[Louisiana1976]

41. K&R for exposure. Terrible.

[EEO]

43. This country is so backward. Yet another story that makes me ashamed to live here.

I wonder how hard it is to move to Finland.

[proReality]

44. Wow, the stupid is really beyond stupid there.

A little sex education would have taught these men the difference between miscarriages and back ally abortions. Apparently they believe every fetus can be saved, and that any woman having a miscarriage should have been forced to stuff it back in and carry it to term? Sure sounds that way.

[get the red out]

53. So a scared young woman having a miscarriage

Requires the kind of police action as a terrorist plot?

It used to be that when women had miscarriages they were considered to have had a medical issue, not have engaged in criminal activity.

I hope they never find this poor girl. I hope she is not turned in and escapes their grasp. Helping her is the last thing on their agenda.

[riqster]

55. Woman-hating assholes.

[Brickbat]

56. Update: It was a miscarriage.

http://educationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/fetus-found-at-woodrow-wilson-high-school-was-the-result-of-a-miscarriage.html/

The Dallas Police Department said Tuesday that the fetus found in a bathroom at Woodrow Wilson High School in Dallas ISD on Friday was the result of a miscarriage.

“We have spoken to all involved. There is no criminal case to file in regards to the fetus,” police spokeswoman Monica Cordova said.

Here's hoping the young woman gets the medical and social support she needs.

[ReRe]

61. K&R...

... for "richness of ignorance" exposure. This is nothing but Police State overkill. And I bet you a fundamentalist principal, whose normal judgement was overridden by religious zealotry. The student that had the miscarriage must have been having some serious cramps and bleeding. Why didn't they look to see if any of the girls had checked out early? Or staff? This could have been a teacher and NOT a student! Personally, if I had a teenager in that high school, I would begin looking for somewhere to move to out of the district, if not the horrid state.
None of those kids are safe if they have this kind of stupid running the school.

[hifiguy]

63. That kind of sheer, unimaginable IDIOCY

can only be measured in cubic parsecs or some other incomprehensible astronomical calculation.

[liberalmuse]

64. No sense in wasting all that military gear.

Looks like they're itching to find an excuse to use their new toys as often as they can.

[MineralMan]

66. An extreme over-reaction by the police.

And now that it turns out that it was definitely a miscarriage, even more pathetic. A sizable percentage of pregnancies end in miscarriages. For that to happen to a high school girl is cause for concern for the girl, and is a medical, not a criminal problem. The school and the police should be very embarrassed with their response. Shameful.

Poor girl! She must be traumatized, both by the miscarriage and by it being responded to like a school shooting. Our society has its priorities all upside down, I think.

[anneboleyn]

89. Seriously. Their response was just absurd. Disturbing and absurd.

[locdlib]

67. remember, this is texas, home of gov. "smart glasses" perry.

If I recall correctly, and I think I do, wasn't there some sort of legislation that was being floated around to basically make miscarriage a crime? http://amplifyyourvoice.org/u/AFY_Will/2010/2/24/In-Utah-Miscarriage--Criminal-Homicide#.VAYxmWO8Txw.

Apparently 38 states have fetal homicide laws: http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx

What is an appropriate word for all this? Sick, crazy, asinine, bullshit . . . those just don't seem to do it justice.

[Trillo]

73. Yet another metaphorical rape.

Those are some very hostile workhouses, no privacy even in the toilet stall.

[Ilsa]

75. It could have been a miscarriage by a teacher.

Teachers have access to student bathrooms, and the Staff bathroom might have been busy.

[madinmaryland]

79. I'm speechless. Fucking cops.

[Sheldon Cooper]

80. A helicopter? A fucking helicopter?

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? Jesus christ on a pogo stick.

[Laffy Kat]

103. I once miscarried a 10-week fetus at home.

Remember very kind male paramedics taking me to the hospital. The police showed up long enough for the medics to tell them to leave. Lots of blood. No helicopter. It was no big deal. Go figure.

[lunasun]

81. Question ? Texas is very conservative regarding abortion . If she did miscarry

intentionally with non medical aid and it was not full term is that against the law in TX?
I am wondering why they are calling her a suspect. And if it was a spontaneous abortion,just nature what is she a suspect of? Was she required to tell the school admin in TX?
Sort of a nazi reaction from the school admin calling in police ,parents being kept away etc.

[RandySF]

82. I would cut the police some slack for the initial response.

No one knew what was going on. For all they knew, the pregnant girl could have been attacked.

[gollygee]

83. Then why did they initially refer to her as "the suspect"

[RandySF]

84. THAT was the stupid part.

It was probably a poor choice of words on their part.

[Niceguy1]

86. if the fetus was viable

And died in the trash can (as has happened in the past) she would be a suspect.

Without knowing the age of the fetus we dont know if there was an overreaction or not. If it www as a first trimester miscarriage then yes, the police did act like fools. But we dont know that.

[ScreamingMeemie]

88. Sending a helicopter to hover over a building and more than two police officers

even in the trash-can-type case you cite would still be a foolish, foolish—I'm going to go with idiotic even—overreaction.

[liberalhistorian]

109. Sorry, but no. The age of the fetus has

exactly nothing to do with any police response. This was so far over the top reaction that it's almost like a SNL satire skit. Swarms of police? A fucking HELICOPTER hovering overhead as well as other militarization tactics? The fact that you would in any way consider any of this normal is truly frightening. And where was the concern for a young girl who may have been in dire need of medical help?

[Capt. Obvious]

87. Baby Moses Law is misnamed

it's really the breeder cow law.

[meathead]

98. Police have determined there was no crime...

The Dallas Police Department said Tuesday that the fetus found in a bathroom at Woodrow Wilson High School in Dallas ISD on Friday was the result of a miscarriage.

“We have spoken to all involved. There is no criminal case to file in regards to the fetus,” police spokeswoman Monica Cordova said.

A Woodrow Wilson staff member found the fetus on Friday afternoon in a second-floor bathroom at the East Dallas school.

http://educationblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/fetus-found-at-woodrow-wilson-high-school-was-the-result-of-a-miscarriage.html/

[dembotoz]

99. police reaction is the crime

[whistler162]

112. Given the poor quality of reporting and

the "writer" of this story going out of his way to hit all the buzzwords and questionable sources.

I wonder how big the school is and how long it took to clear and determine that there wasn't a distressed student or teacher who needed medical help? As for the word suspect would female of interest have been any better? The situation had to be investigated.


Did the school send out an alert, like it should have, and the parent didn't get it? If they did and the parent only got it on her home phone it isn't the officers job to provide every Tom, Dick, and Harriet with a explanation about what is going on. If the school didn't send out a alert then that is on the Superintendent, Principal, and maybe the School Board.

[herding cats]

100. Once again a fetus is dead and the guilty baby killer avoids charges.

"Police say they don’t know how far along the mother’s pregnancy may have been, but they want to know the circumstances of how it ended."
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/08/29/dpd-searching-for-mother-after-fetus-found-in-h-s-bathroom/

The manhunt for the girl responsible for the dead fetus in the ladies bathroom has come to an end. As has the hunt for the person responsible for the termination of the fetus.

The girl/woman is off the hook. God killed the fetus not her.

Now that they know it was a God who chose to terminate the pregnancy the girl is off the hook for any potential criminal charges. Whatever the hell those may have been. Much to the dismay of the Dallas police they don't have jurisdiction over God, as such no charges will now be filed in the case.

No charges will be filed after a fetus was found inside a girls' bathroom at a Dallas high school, and the police investigation is over.

Dallas police have spoken with all parties involved and determined that a girl or a woman miscarried and that no criminal offense took place, police told NBC 5 in an email.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/No-Charges-After-Fetus-Found-in-High-School-Bathroom-273629901.html

How's that for some crazy shit? You just had a miscarriage in the school bathroom. You're terrified. Next thing you know police are everyplace looking for YOU because your miscarriage had the audacity to take place during school hours. You're on the news that night and in the newspapers the next day. Everyone is talking about your miscarriage and speculating about what crimes you may have committed by daring to miscarry in the school bathroom. Luckily for you the investigation exonerated you of criminal charges. now you just have to deal with the emotional backlash made thousands of times worse thanks to the insane overreaction by your local police and the media.

[appleannie1]

102. Since when is it criminal to have a miscarriage?

[valerief]

104. WTF did they think the thing was, a devil fetus? Insanity reigns. nt