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http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/study-shows-fracking-contaminates-82-of-nearby-drinking-water/Link to study: http://www.pnas.org/content/110/28/11250
littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)We owe Omaha Steve a beer.
Each.
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TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)eom
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)...........
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Which is what important people value the average person, zero.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)For instance, the Vice President promoted fracking for Ukraine, as one of the interesting ways the US "would help Ukraine" after the coup. Now I know it was part of a plan to frack over there so we wouldn't have to frack just over here.
Vice President Joe Biden Promotes U.S. as Fracking Missionary Force On Ukraine Trip
Then, Vice President Biden's son's company just got a huge new contract doing fracking. Again, happenstance that helps the small water drinkers of the planet.
Company In Which Joe Biden's Son Is Director Prepares To Drill Shale Gas In East Ukraine
Small world! Can you believe it, Fred Sanders?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Maybe I missed something.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...opens up to The Hill:
US sends experts to tackle Ukraine's energy needs
By Laura Barron-Lopez - 04/22/14 03:12 PM EDT
EXCERPT...
On Tuesday, an interagency expert team arrived in Kyiv to help the Ukrainian government secure reverse natural gas flows from its European neighbors. Later in the week, the team will visit Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia to work on the details of the arrangement.
"And as you attempt to pursue energy security, theres no reason why you cannot be energy secure. I mean there isnt. It will take time. It takes some difficult decisions, but its collectively within your power and the power of Europe and the United States," Vice President Joe Biden said on Tuesday during a meeting with Ukrainian legislators. "And we stand ready to assist you in reaching that. Imagine where youd be today if you were able to tell Russia: Keep your gas. It would be a very different world youd be facing today."
In May, U.S. technical experts will meet with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development to help Ukraine develop a public-private investment project to increase conventional gas production from existing fields. The increase in production will help Ukraine build up its domestic energy supply.
The team will also work with the Ukrainian government on measures that will provide fast and environmentally-friendly implementation of fracking for shale gas, in line with contracts signed in 2013.
CONTINUED...
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/204080-us-sends-experts-to-tackle-ukraines-energy-needs#ixzz2zfanvVcZ
Sorry about the confusion. Biden was in the Ukraine talking about this with the new and pro-Western biz government.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Who confirmed the team was sent in May, if it was, and was going to discuss fracking? That is just a claim in the article without attribution.
Sorry, I like to confirm what someone said someone else said by actually seeing what the person said.
If you have had enough of me, that is OK.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)In the following Reuters report he doesn't mention fracking by name, but that's what he's talking about.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/22/us-ukraine-crisis-biden-lawmakers-idUSBREA3L0BN20140422
Firedoglake has lots more, but I have not had the time to run them down.
http://my.firedoglake.com/stevehorn1022/tag/global-shale-gas-initiative/
I very much appreciate you helping me see that VP Biden may not have used the term "fracking," per se, but it's clear that's what he meant. Then, there' the matter of his son getting into the fracking business in Ukraine, of all the geological formations in all the world.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)liberal on the inside of the industry is not all bad. At least there may be disclosure of the chemicals used, that is a good start that may be the only start need to halt chemical cracking for something else.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Cheney set thet fracking secrecy policy, way back when.
"Scientific advisory panels at the Department of Energy and the EPA have enumerated ways the industry could improve and have called for modest steps, such as establishing maximum contaminant levels allowed in water for all the chemicals used in fracking. Unfortunately, these recommendations do not address the biggest loophole of all. In 2005 Congressat the behest of then Vice President Dick Cheney, a former CEO of gas driller Halliburtonexempted fracking from regulation under the Safe Drinking Water Act. Congress needs to close this so-called Halliburton loophole, as a bill co-sponsored by New York State Representative Maurice Hinchey would do. The FRAC Act would also mandate public disclosure of all chemicals used in fracking across the nation."
-- Scientific American, Nov. 2011, "Safety First, Fracking Second"
Maybe after the middterms we'll see action on full disclosure of chemicals. Right.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)that is false.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)He does explain how there are new technologies that would help Ukraine become energy independent of Moscow.
SOURCE: http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/204080-us-sends-experts-to-tackle-ukraines-energy-needs#ixzz2zfanvVcZ
That would be fracking.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...the Details:
Vice President Joe Biden Promotes U.S. as Fracking Missionary Force On Ukraine Trip
STEVE HORN
Wed, 2014-04-23 12:18
During his two-day visit this week to Kiev, Ukraine, Vice President Joe Biden unfurled President Barack Obama's U.S. Crisis Support Package for Ukraine.
A key part of the package involves promoting the deployment of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) in Ukraine. Dean Neu, professor of accounting at York University in Toronto, describes this phenomenon in his book Doing Missionary Work. And in this case, it involves the U.S. acting as a modern-day missionary to spread the gospel of fracking to further its own interests.
SNIP...
Gas Support Package Details
Within the energy security section of the aid package, the White House promises in the coming weeks, expert teams from several U.S. government agencies will travel to the region to help Ukraine meet immediate and longer term energy needs.
That section contains three main things the U.S. will do to ensure U.S. oil and gas companies continue to profit during this geopolitical stand-off.
1) Help with pipelines and securing access to gas at the midstream level of production.
Today, a U.S. interagency expert team arrived in Kyiv to help Ukraine secure reverse flows of natural gas from its European neighbors, the White House fact sheet explains. Reverse flows of natural gas will provide Ukraine with additional immediate sources of energy.
2) Technical assistance to help boost conventional gas production in Ukraine. That is, gas obtained not from fracking and horizontal drilling, but via traditional vertical drilling.
As the White House explains, U.S. technical experts will join with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development and others in May to help Ukraine develop a public-private investment initiative to increase conventional gas production from existing fields to boost domestic energy supply.
3) Shale gas missionary work.
A technical team will also engage the government on measures that will help the Ukrainian government ensure swift and environmentally sustainable implementation of contracts signed in 2013 for shale gas development, says the White House.
CONTINUED w LINKS to details:
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/04/23/vice-president-joe-biden-promotes-u-s-fracking-missionary-force-during-ukraine-trip
So, it is complicated, but it's still fracking.
Regarding the above source: DeSmogBlog fights climate change disinformation.
http://www.desmogblog.com/about
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Back in '08, the Paraguayans kicked the military junta to the curb.
Lo, a few years later, the Democrat is gone and the largest untapped aquifer in the world is, um, secure once again.
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What a coincidence, valerief.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)nt
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)We'll never get anywhere with decent regulation if we can't talk about it right.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)away with the natural chemicals as I understand the procedure. They are produced as part of the very process.
WCLinolVir
(951 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)That sounds really bad to me.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)If you live near a frack ing site, then a person (fracking corporation) is trying to kill you (poisoning your water). Intentional poisoning = Murder.