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Source: Buzzfeed
In her shocking article, she wrote a detailed account of her rape experience, and how the police pressured her to drop the case.
The article provoked strong reactions. While the overall response was positive, Marcello was appalled at some of the victim-blaming comments she received. She told BuzzFeed: I cant believe some of the things that people come out with. And some of them are amusing for their sheer stupidity.
Below is a selection of those comments:
What in the actual fuck?!
Because we all know that a completely obliterated and/or unconscious person is capable of giving consent. This also highlights the importance of Yes Means Yes legislation.
That idea is not half bad: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chastity_belt_Heyser_0.png
The same kind of things are being said about Jennifer Lawrence et al. Classic blame the victim.
Gee, where have I seen this before?
Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/oxford-student-is-blamed-for-being-raped
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...horrible experience. Is there anything I can do for you or anybody you want me to call or do you just want me to sit with you?
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)I think.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...if the occasion ever came up.
I'm glad it wasn't you, though.
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)It was a kind response, indeed.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)from "Alice in wonderland"
I keep expecting to see a white rabbit...never mind, I DO have a white rabbit and a dutch rabbit.
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Awesome suggestion, BlueJazz. And I mean that with all sincerity.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,727 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I would rather play the victim card, than get help. And that I was disruptive and that I needed to seek therapy.
Not even for talking about the rape itself, for talking about my rapist's mindset.
On DU.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)about some of our so-called "allies."
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Response to LeftyMom (Reply #4)
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rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Some of the stuff posted here is outright wrong and gets a pass and victims get revictimized
shireen
(8,333 posts)even more so that it was on DU.
We need a hall of shame for DU'ers who post such vile things.
demmiblue
(36,824 posts)I think I remember that, though I don't recall which mrasogynist it was.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Whoever that guy was, it sounds to me like he obviously didn't get it.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Probably wants to go back to the gold standard.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)You never criticized the person who was attacking me or said anything to support me, even though you posted many times on the thread. Here it is in case you forget: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4752265
So you'll have to forgive me, I'm really not interested in your support now because I doubt its' sincerity.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Truthfully, however, since you brought that up, I only made a small handful of comments. And in fact, a couple of them was actually affirming the original intent behind the term "rape culture", including this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4754864
So, in effect, I was actually more on your side than that of Archae's here. Maybe you were thinking of something else? Because, as Obi-Wan might say, this isn't the evidence you're looking for.....
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)you would stop "visiting" rape threads.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Do I need to kick more dough in to STFUstarter? Are you not getting the damn hint yet? Nobody finds you convincing.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Well, what can I say? I only said what I said because I felt like it was right. I didn't ask to be praised to the heavens for it, or anything.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)You're not and I don't want you to be. Shoo.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)You don't get a cookie.
Bettie
(16,076 posts)And it has been for quite some time.
At age 12, I went to the minister in our church, as I'd been told he was the go-to guy for big problems.
He told me I was lying, that a godly man like my father couldn't be raping me regularly.
Then, he told me that the reason I was lying was that I was a sinful, girl who was having impure thoughts about my own father.
Then, he called my father to come down to the church.
I was forced to apologize to him.
I never went to church willingly again. I just shut down my emotions and accepted that there was nothing I could do.
At 18, I left home and never looked back.
He asked to come and see my first child when he was born. I told him to go to hell.
It boils my blood to hear people say the things listed in the OP with regard to rape victims. The only one to blame for rape is the one who decided to rape. No one else.
shireen
(8,333 posts)pleinair
(171 posts)-glad you survived & kudos for distancing yourself successfully.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Nobody should ever be forced to go thru that. EVER. That kind of horrible shit burns me up to no end.
Virtual hugs from me, if you want them. (it's something I picked up from Dave Futrelle's site, TBH)
And may you find peace, both here and in the afterlife.
Bettie
(16,076 posts)I am a pretty stubborn person by nature.
During some therapy in college, I decided that I could not let him win, not even a little bit.
So, I worked through it and came out the other side a relatively whole person.
I have a husband who is my best friend and without whom, I don't know if I could manage anymore, three wonderful children who are way too loud most days, and a pretty good life with the usual bumps in the path.
I'm lucky. I was able to live with a horrible secret for most of my childhood and still come back from it. Too many can't, it breaks them in ways we can't even see.
But in the end, it has made me much less tolerant of victim blaming in all of its forms.
It just isn't OK to blame those who are being hurt/killed by others who chose to do it.
shireen
(8,333 posts)It seems that some people are simply not capable of it. This is so sad and infuriating.
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)It can even add to the trauma. I have seen "men can't be raped", except, presumably by other men. One of the most jarring responses I saw is "you can't rape the willing" and it was in reference to men being raped. Of course, that phrase has been used against women who were drunk, wearing something seen as provocative, you know, like a pair of sweats and hair rollers. ( ) or women in "the wrong neighborhood".
One thing that really pisses me off are people who chastise or shame a victim who didn't report his/her victimization. "If you don't report, think of all those people s/he will rape."
You should NEVER say something like that to someone who has just been assaulted!!! NEVER! It is one thing to try to get someone to report by offering support and understanding, but to blame them for future victims is fucked up beyond belief.
ncjustice80
(948 posts)Yes means yes. A defendant should have to prove the victim said yes- otherwiae *all* sex without affirmative consent is RAPE. WHY IS THIS HARS FOR THE RW TURD STAINS TO UNDERSTAND???