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demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 06:17 PM Sep 2014

16 Things People Told A Rape Survivor After She Wrote About Her Rape

Source: Buzzfeed


On Friday, an Oxford University student writing pseudonymously as Miss Marcello wrote bravely about her rape.

In her shocking article, she wrote a detailed account of her rape experience, and how the police pressured her to drop the case.

The article provoked strong reactions. While the overall response was positive, Marcello was appalled at some of the victim-blaming comments she received. She told BuzzFeed: “I can’t believe some of the things that people come out with. And some of them are amusing for their sheer stupidity.”

Below is a selection of those comments:





What in the actual fuck?!




Because we all know that a completely obliterated and/or unconscious person is capable of giving consent. This also highlights the importance of Yes Means Yes legislation.




That idea is not half bad: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chastity_belt_Heyser_0.png




The same kind of things are being said about Jennifer Lawrence et al. Classic blame the victim.




Gee, where have I seen this before?


Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rossalynwarren/oxford-student-is-blamed-for-being-raped



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16 Things People Told A Rape Survivor After She Wrote About Her Rape (Original Post) demmiblue Sep 2014 OP
I think the only thing I could/would say is: I'm terribly sorry you went through this... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #1
This is not me, but thank you. demmiblue Sep 2014 #2
I knew or thought that it was not you. I was being generic in my actions of what I would do... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #8
Whoosh... right over my head! demmiblue Sep 2014 #16
I'm taking a lot of Oxycodone (legally)...following surgery so everything seems like an episode.. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #18
Lol... I hope your recovery goes well. demmiblue Sep 2014 #21
I'd like to second this, btw. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #19
Thank you. That was very nice of you to post. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #24
K&R - nt Ohio Joe Sep 2014 #3
I was told: LeftyMom Sep 2014 #4
not at all surprised noiretextatique Sep 2014 #5
That one did get bounced, but all of that shit made it past juries first. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #6
again...not surprised eom noiretextatique Sep 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Sep 2014 #10
it's sickening rbrnmw Sep 2014 #13
infuriating shireen Sep 2014 #14
Not surprised either. demmiblue Sep 2014 #15
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #20
. demmiblue Sep 2014 #23
*dies* LeftyMom Sep 2014 #26
Apparently he hates United States currency XemaSab Sep 2014 #27
*thud* Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #28
Uh, you posted all over that thread telling feminists that their ideas about rape culture are wrong. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #25
I'm sorry that you feel skeptical. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #29
If you were sorry XemaSab Sep 2014 #30
The time to support me is not three months after I was attacked. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #31
"Nobody finds you convincing." I'm sorry you feel that way. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #32
You can respect my intelligence and stop pretending to be my ally. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #33
You want a cookie for calling yourself a feminist XemaSab Sep 2014 #34
Victim blaming is a very popular pastime these days Bettie Sep 2014 #9
sad to hear about it shireen Sep 2014 #12
wishing you peace pleinair Sep 2014 #17
Bettie.....I am so, so sorry you had to endure that kind of abuse. AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #22
Thanks so much (and I'll take the virtual hugs too) Bettie Sep 2014 #36
where's the empathy? shireen Sep 2014 #11
It is unfortunate, to say the least. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #35
This is why America needs affirmative consent laws... ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #37
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
1. I think the only thing I could/would say is: I'm terribly sorry you went through this...
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 06:31 PM
Sep 2014

...horrible experience. Is there anything I can do for you or anybody you want me to call or do you just want me to sit with you?

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
8. I knew or thought that it was not you. I was being generic in my actions of what I would do...
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:48 PM
Sep 2014

...if the occasion ever came up.
I'm glad it wasn't you, though.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
18. I'm taking a lot of Oxycodone (legally)...following surgery so everything seems like an episode..
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:26 PM
Sep 2014

from "Alice in wonderland"

I keep expecting to see a white rabbit...never mind, I DO have a white rabbit and a dutch rabbit.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
4. I was told:
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:37 PM
Sep 2014

I would rather play the victim card, than get help. And that I was disruptive and that I needed to seek therapy.

Not even for talking about the rape itself, for talking about my rapist's mindset.

On DU.

Response to LeftyMom (Reply #4)

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
13. it's sickening
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:01 PM
Sep 2014

Some of the stuff posted here is outright wrong and gets a pass and victims get revictimized

shireen

(8,333 posts)
14. infuriating
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:02 PM
Sep 2014

even more so that it was on DU.

We need a hall of shame for DU'ers who post such vile things.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:30 PM
Sep 2014

Whoever that guy was, it sounds to me like he obviously didn't get it.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
25. Uh, you posted all over that thread telling feminists that their ideas about rape culture are wrong.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:51 PM
Sep 2014

You never criticized the person who was attacking me or said anything to support me, even though you posted many times on the thread. Here it is in case you forget: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4752265

So you'll have to forgive me, I'm really not interested in your support now because I doubt its' sincerity.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
29. I'm sorry that you feel skeptical.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014

Truthfully, however, since you brought that up, I only made a small handful of comments. And in fact, a couple of them was actually affirming the original intent behind the term "rape culture", including this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4754864

So, in effect, I was actually more on your side than that of Archae's here. Maybe you were thinking of something else? Because, as Obi-Wan might say, this isn't the evidence you're looking for.....

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
31. The time to support me is not three months after I was attacked.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 11:01 PM
Sep 2014

Do I need to kick more dough in to STFUstarter? Are you not getting the damn hint yet? Nobody finds you convincing.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
32. "Nobody finds you convincing." I'm sorry you feel that way.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 11:03 PM
Sep 2014

Well, what can I say? I only said what I said because I felt like it was right. I didn't ask to be praised to the heavens for it, or anything.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
33. You can respect my intelligence and stop pretending to be my ally.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 11:04 PM
Sep 2014

You're not and I don't want you to be. Shoo.

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
9. Victim blaming is a very popular pastime these days
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:48 PM
Sep 2014

And it has been for quite some time.

At age 12, I went to the minister in our church, as I'd been told he was the go-to guy for big problems.

He told me I was lying, that a godly man like my father couldn't be raping me regularly.

Then, he told me that the reason I was lying was that I was a sinful, girl who was having impure thoughts about my own father.

Then, he called my father to come down to the church.

I was forced to apologize to him.

I never went to church willingly again. I just shut down my emotions and accepted that there was nothing I could do.

At 18, I left home and never looked back.

He asked to come and see my first child when he was born. I told him to go to hell.

It boils my blood to hear people say the things listed in the OP with regard to rape victims. The only one to blame for rape is the one who decided to rape. No one else.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. Bettie.....I am so, so sorry you had to endure that kind of abuse.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 09:36 PM
Sep 2014

Nobody should ever be forced to go thru that. EVER. That kind of horrible shit burns me up to no end.

Virtual hugs from me, if you want them. (it's something I picked up from Dave Futrelle's site, TBH)

And may you find peace, both here and in the afterlife.

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
36. Thanks so much (and I'll take the virtual hugs too)
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 07:48 AM
Sep 2014

I am a pretty stubborn person by nature.

During some therapy in college, I decided that I could not let him win, not even a little bit.

So, I worked through it and came out the other side a relatively whole person.

I have a husband who is my best friend and without whom, I don't know if I could manage anymore, three wonderful children who are way too loud most days, and a pretty good life with the usual bumps in the path.

I'm lucky. I was able to live with a horrible secret for most of my childhood and still come back from it. Too many can't, it breaks them in ways we can't even see.

But in the end, it has made me much less tolerant of victim blaming in all of its forms.

It just isn't OK to blame those who are being hurt/killed by others who chose to do it.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
11. where's the empathy?
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:57 PM
Sep 2014

It seems that some people are simply not capable of it. This is so sad and infuriating.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
35. It is unfortunate, to say the least.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:12 AM
Sep 2014

It can even add to the trauma. I have seen "men can't be raped", except, presumably by other men. One of the most jarring responses I saw is "you can't rape the willing" and it was in reference to men being raped. Of course, that phrase has been used against women who were drunk, wearing something seen as provocative, you know, like a pair of sweats and hair rollers. ( ) or women in "the wrong neighborhood".

One thing that really pisses me off are people who chastise or shame a victim who didn't report his/her victimization. "If you don't report, think of all those people s/he will rape."



You should NEVER say something like that to someone who has just been assaulted!!! NEVER! It is one thing to try to get someone to report by offering support and understanding, but to blame them for future victims is fucked up beyond belief.

ncjustice80

(948 posts)
37. This is why America needs affirmative consent laws...
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:21 AM
Sep 2014

Yes means yes. A defendant should have to prove the victim said yes- otherwiae *all* sex without affirmative consent is RAPE. WHY IS THIS HARS FOR THE RW TURD STAINS TO UNDERSTAND???

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