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babylonsister

(171,063 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:00 PM Sep 2014

Falling like dominoes: Red-state govs expanding Obamacare

Posted with permission.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/falling-dominoes-red-state-govs-expanding-obamacare

Falling like dominoes: Red-state govs expanding Obamacare
09/02/14 09:19 AM—Updated 09/02/14 11:57 AM
By Steve Benen


As of a week ago, about half of the nation’s states had embraced Medicaid expansion through the Affordable Care Act, while the other half seemed to be motivated almost entirely out of partisan spite. But in recent days, there’s been a burst of unexpected activity on this issue.

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett (R) struck a deal with the Obama administration that will allow Medicaid expansion to cover another half-million low-income Americans in the Keystone State. A day later, Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) said he expects to follow suit in the coming weeks.

Ruby-red Wyoming generally resists any voluntary federal program, but it, too, is starting to come around on Medicaid expansion. Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), a fierce “Obamacare” critic, recently did the same.

And even Utah is moving forward with its Medicaid-expansion plans, though not without an unintentionally amusing debate.


Utah’s health care debate took an unexpected turn at the State Capitol, where a lawmaker who is also a doctor argued that access to health care can be a bad thing.

Representative Mike Kennedy, a Republican from Alpine, made the comments in a Health Reform Task Force meeting, in reaction to a story from another doctor…. “Sometimes access actually can mean harm,” said Representative Mike Kennedy, a family physician.


I’ve followed this debate closely for quite a while, and I have to admit, this is the first time I’ve seen an elected official argue – out loud and on purpose – that medical care may be bad for people. But in this case, a Utah state Republican and physician tried to defeat Medicaid expansion by sincerely making the case that hospitals can make Americans sicker.

“Sometimes access to health care can be damaging and dangerous,” the GOP lawmaker said. “And it’s a perspective for the [Legislative] body to consider is that, I’ve heard from National Institutes of Health and otherwise that we’re killing up to a million, a million and a half people every year in our hospitals. And it’s access to hospitals that’s killing those people.”

Ridiculous arguments notwithstanding, there is a larger trend here that’s hard to overlook.

Justin Green, writing in the conservative Washington Examiner, noted over the weekend that the Republican fight against Medicaid expansion may soon be “over.”

“{T}he trend is quite clear: Red states are gradually accepting Obamacare, and no states are reversing their decisions,” Green said.

To date, 10 Republican governors have embraced this ACA policy, but that total is slowly growing as the arithmetic becomes increasingly undeniable.


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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. I believe they think that if they put it into law, then it will repealed should Rs
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:09 PM
Sep 2014

get the majority in the House and Senate in November. The best of both worlds for them. Endorse a popular policy with the notion that they can jerk it back later and not actually havve to implement it in its totality. Don't trust these jerks or their motives.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Congradulations, good move, this shows the states mentioned do care, health care for our citizens is
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:12 PM
Sep 2014

a good thing. The cost of healthcare is dropping, when the cost of healthcare is spread among all citizens per person it just may drop more. What is more important those who has not been able to afford healthcare and will seek healthcare when needed.

Wounded Bear

(58,649 posts)
4. What we've been saying around here all along...
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:13 PM
Sep 2014

The ACA is NOT a losing issue. Blocking it is!

Simple. If you deny people health care, they get pissed off and it's starting to dawn on people who is really keeping them from getting it.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Hopefully good news for Missouri
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:17 PM
Sep 2014

Rather than the governor, it's the state legislature that is holding us back. The entire house and some senate seats are up for re-election. I hope we can surprise everyone, and get more Dems elected by running on Obamacare. At the very least, the republican candidates are probably going to face some tough questions.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
14. he's goin down.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 10:45 PM
Sep 2014

with kelly westlund's help.
she is neck and neck with sean duffy with zero paid media so far.
i dont think she missed a county fair or parade all summer.
shoe leather. it just takes shoe leather.
and good progressive politics.

chip in y'all
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/demunderground

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
7. Sadly - my home state
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 11:08 AM
Sep 2014

Idaho will be the last state in the Union to adopt Medicaid expansion. Yeah, our elected officials are that spiteful and that stupid.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
8. Democratic candidates should be driving these points home
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 12:26 PM
Sep 2014

There shouldn't be a Republican with a chance in hell of winning in 2014. How come this isn't the case???

Can't we get people excited about the good that comes from electing Democrats?

GOTV in November!

moondust

(19,979 posts)
11. Exactly.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:08 PM
Sep 2014

I've wondered if the PA gov is scrambling to pass Medicaid expansion because he's way behind in the polls. Sooner or later a lot of people are bound to wake up to the fact that they're being screwed for purely political reasons.



BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
12. Exactly!
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 01:17 PM
Sep 2014

The simple truth is, Republicans fight tooth and nail against EVERYTHING that helps average Americans.
If people would watch CSpan instead of faux and see how these people vote, the would be very fewmRs in office.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
9. what bothers me the most is that these nitwits enjoy federally-funded healthcare insurance for
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

themselves and their families.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. Corbett is desperate. He's behind by 20 points for re-election
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 04:34 PM
Sep 2014

and if this dimwit manages to pull out a victory I could see him pulling the rug out from underneath everyone in this matter after the election.

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