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kentuck

(111,074 posts)
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:02 PM Sep 2014

How many of the Sunnis in ISIS are former Saddam Hussein supporters?

Last edited Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:57 PM - Edit history (1)

And many of them left the country of Iraq when Saddam Hussein was hanged? Many went to Syria and other neighboring countries?

And once Maliki took control in Baghdad, he did not recognize the "Sunnis" as part of his government. This is when the Sunnis organized themselves in Syria and decided to take their country back.

This has left the US in a Catch-22 situation. They must align themselves with the Baghdad government and Iran or they must align themselves with the dictator Assad in Syria? Neither is preferable.

The leaders of the group are now personally challenging President Obama by name as they behead American journalists. The reports are that the President is pissed.

He should remain calm and determined. He should not act out of anger, as Israel appeared to do with the Gaza strip? It is somewhat re-assuring that we now have a President Obama, rather than a President Bush. He will not fire until there is a target.

It is not re-assuring that we are being drawn back into another war with Iraq. It is not disconnected from the last Iraqi War. This is a continuation of the war between the Shia and the Sunnis, which has been going on for over a thousand years. With the killing of Saddam Hussein, the Shia - backed by Iran - took over the Baghdad government. Now the Sunnis want to take it back.

http://www.cfr.org/peace-conflict-and-human-rights/sunni-shia-divide/p33176#!/?cid=nlc-news_release-news_release-the_sunni_shia_divide-link2-20140715&sp_mid=46474712&sp_rid=Z3Njb2JsZXRlQHJlYWxjbGVhcndvcmxkLmNvbQS2


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How many of the Sunnis in ISIS are former Saddam Hussein supporters? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2014 OP
Probably a lot of them Vogon_Glory Sep 2014 #1
Sunnis and Shiite: "going on for over a thousand years" Mika Sep 2014 #2
I must admit... kentuck Sep 2014 #6
We don't have to align with either Assad or Iran. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #3
I wonder how many are old enough that they were fully aware of him loyalsister Sep 2014 #4
I know this has been discussed extensively on Democracy Now Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2014 #5
That would tie in nicely with rationale for Iraq invasion Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #7
The writer needs to do a more thorough research n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #8

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
1. Probably a lot of them
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:12 PM
Sep 2014

Probably a lot of them.

The SOB who heads ISIS isn't stupid and has the smarts to acquire competent people to staff his armed forces, run his government, and lead his troops.

Just because Team Shrub operated an utterly incompetent post-invasion occupation doesn't mean that ISIS is obliged to be even more stupid.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
2. Sunnis and Shiite: "going on for over a thousand years"
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:16 PM
Sep 2014

Do you have any accurate retrospective on this phenomenon? I hear/see it all the time and see rebuttals denying the accuracy of this statement.

Thanks in advance.



TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. We don't have to align with either Assad or Iran.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:17 PM
Sep 2014

We don't need to coordinate, we don't need to ask permission, and if Assad in particular does something we don't like (anti-aircraft), we can respond accordingly in ways he won't like.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
4. I wonder how many are old enough that they were fully aware of him
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:22 PM
Sep 2014

It's been over 20 yrs. since the gulf war, and 11 since he was killed. Does anyone know the age demographics? I would think a lot of them would have been children when he was killed.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
5. I know this has been discussed extensively on Democracy Now
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:31 PM
Sep 2014

I can't remember the names of the specific guests, and I'm going to paraphrase this badly.

What I've read is that the initial, spectacular success of ISIS in Iraq was due in large part to ex-Baathists (read: Saddam Hussein's Generals) wanting an opportunity to return to power and in part due to tribal leaders who hate Malaki (sp?). Malaki is out, and the Kurds and (more recently) the Iraqi Security Forces have scored a series of battlefield victories against ISIS.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
7. That would tie in nicely with rationale for Iraq invasion
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 08:46 PM
Sep 2014

At least that's what I expect Fox News to declare.

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