Is Paul Ryan in league with ISIL?

[Augiedog]

With the advent of another ISIL beheading, most likely done at the same time as the first, Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan has expressed his belief that this is all President Obama's fault. My question for all is, does this expose Paul Ryan as being so depraved as to willfully advance the cause of the terrorists for his political advantage? If the terrorists are so enraged at what President Obama is or has done, why is that bad? It must be that President Obama is very effective and causing the ISL terrorists to lash out in perverted frustration. I'm not surprised that Ryan would attempt to join with the terrorists in trying to bring harm to Americas president, I live in Wisconsin and have seen his antics up close. As an aside, If you think he is bad just wait til Glen Grothman gets to Washington....you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[Kalidurga]

1. Well they are both praying for Obama to fail

Actually working together I doubt it. Ryan doesn't seem like the working type.

[Bragi]

2. Take a moment to reflect?

I have a few questions about your thesis.

So, you think Paul Ryan might be willfully advancing the cause of the ISIS terrorists.

Well, I want to tell you, maybe as an elder, that yours is a bizarre and improbable proposition.

How exactly would a US congressman and a warring self-declared Caliphate state collaborate?

Meetups online? Selected Orange Julius kiosks? How would no-one find out about these contacts?

Etc.

You might want to think through your thesis a bit more.

[Augiedog]

3. Cheering for your enemy's enemy

I guess you have never heard of the concept/adage , the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but then any Ryan apologist would never be so political as to doubt A (chicken hawk) republicans loyalty to his country, constitution and president, right?

[Bragi]

5. So, on reflection, that's your case?

Your argument centers on the notion of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I get that. It's just that you earlier suggested that Ryan was working "in league" with ISIS, which suggested to me a conscious harmony of active effort between them to advance the cause of each.

This being so, my retort is that the only thing perhaps more ridiculous than Paul Ryan himself, is the idea that Paul Ryan works out plans with ISIS to have Americans beheaded because doing this will harm Obama.

[TexasTowelie]

4. Really not much than what Republicans allege against President Obama.

Change one word and you get the following, "How exactly would a US president and a warring self-declared Caliphate state collaborate?"

Pardon me for playing devil's advocate, but I've seen too many conservatives make nefarious charges against the president not to point this out.

[Bragi]

6. I agree

They are both ridiculous arguments.

[Augiedog]

8. Ah yes, history is a pain in the butt

But let's not forget that when any progressive minded person in this country questioned Bush the 2nds war(s) and foreign policy the automatic right wing attack was to suggest that we were aiding and abetting the enemy...that if we didn't like it here we should move to another country more to our liking. As far as Paul Ryan's motivations and veracity go, how can anyone trust a self avowed acolyte of Ayn Rand, the capitalist anti-Christ and advocate for social anarchy.

[Scootaloo]

7. No, ISIS already has its cartoon character quota