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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:26 PM Sep 2014

Columbia University Student Will Drag Her Mattress Around Campus Until Her Rapist Is Gone

What a brave young woman!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/emma-sulkowicz-mattress-rape-columbia-university_n_5755612.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

By Sarah Barness
Posted: 09/03/2014

Emma Sulkowicz is a senior visual arts student at Columbia University. On the first day of her sophomore year, she says, she was raped by a classmate on her mattress.

"Rape can happen anywhere," she explains in the video above. "For me, I was raped in my own dorm bed. Since then, it has basically become fraught for me, and I feel like I've carried the weight of what happened there with me everywhere since then."

Sulkowicz' senior thesis, titled "Mattress Performance" or "Carry That Weight," is a literal expression of that emotional weight. In what she calls an endurance art piece, she will drag her mattress everywhere she goes on campus until her rapist is expelled or leaves. The project, she says, could extend for one day or for the entire remainder of her time at Columbia.

"The past year or so of my life has been really marked by telling people what happened in that most intimate private space and bringing it out into the light," she says. "So I think the act of carrying something that is normally found in our bedroom out into the light is supposed to mirror the way I've talked to the media and talked to different news channels, etc."

When Sulkowicz's case made it to a university hearing seven months after the actual incident occurred, administrators were confused about how anal rape could happen and she had to draw a diagram. The experience left her feeling physically ill.

Two other women came forward to say they had been assaulted by the same student, but all believe their cases were mishandled, in part by mistake-riddled record-keeping on the part of university authorities (note: aliases were used in early reporting on the case to protect the identity of those involved).



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Columbia University Student Will Drag Her Mattress Around Campus Until Her Rapist Is Gone (Original Post) G_j Sep 2014 OP
She is amazing! JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #1
Why didn't she go to the police? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #2
Sigh. Why am I NOT surprised liberalhistorian Sep 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #9
Why am I not surprised you have a Maryland avvie? KamaAina Sep 2014 #14
Jury results: 7-0 to keep stevenleser Sep 2014 #17
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Ash_F Sep 2014 #29
Wow! That's one of the very, very few times in the more than eleven liberalhistorian Sep 2014 #38
I see you have questions, do you have opinions? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #7
I actually do thank you yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #13
Perhaps "real" courts are worse than the campus courts, duh! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #22
It is unfortunate that you can't respond, but going to police is a nightmare for rape victims Ash_F Sep 2014 #31
"I ask why she didn't go th the police because again and again rapes have been swept under the rug Brickbat Sep 2014 #37
After Police Report, Columbia Spectator Publishes Name From Campus ‘Rape List’ G_j Sep 2014 #11
Beat me to it pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #15
Seems like there's a pattern emerging with police handling badly WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #30
I agree G_j Sep 2014 #32
Why didn't the university call the police? leftstreet Sep 2014 #12
It might look bad to prospective students. Gotta keep the money rolling in. name not needed Sep 2014 #34
Clery Act. Chan790 Sep 2014 #35
Are you kidding marions ghost Sep 2014 #42
She reported it to the proper university officials, like the police. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #19
I like the way you put that. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #27
That is one brave young woman. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #3
That is understating it in my opinion mythology Sep 2014 #18
Their alleged attacker was found not responsible by the university, and remains at the school. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #4
Sadly, the old adage applies: Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #23
It's known as AFFLUENZA n/t aggiesal Sep 2014 #25
I have the awful suspicion that the liberalhistorian Sep 2014 #5
^^That Orrex Sep 2014 #16
They'll probably suspend her for vandalizing university property Orrex Sep 2014 #8
I sincerely hope that this makes the administration MineralMan Sep 2014 #10
i hope other students support her shireen Sep 2014 #20
You go girl! I'd help you carry that mattress if I could be there. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #21
She has as much credibility as the imaginary boyfriend phony gang rape girl. She is a careerist Monk06 Apr 2015 #44
A hard push for the discreditation of rape industry. Ka-ching, ka-ching. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #45
She lied multiple times as demonstrated by her emails. She had a previous sexual Monk06 Apr 2015 #46
I don't understand how criminal accusations like this can be handled by some university panel, and Marr Sep 2014 #24
Too bad she can't make her rapist carry the mattress around Jamastiene Sep 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #28
Kicking AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #33
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Sep 2014 #36
All rape allegations should be handled by the police. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #39
She characterizes her experience with the NYPD as "awful" G_j Sep 2014 #40
Kick! Agschmid Sep 2014 #41
People don't realize marions ghost Sep 2014 #43

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
6. Sigh. Why am I NOT surprised
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:42 PM
Sep 2014

to find you on here blaming and shaming the victim and so totally missing the point altogether?

Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #6)

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. Why am I not surprised you have a Maryland avvie?
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:59 PM
Sep 2014

Oh, wait, I am. That's pretty low to sink for someone from my home state.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. Jury results: 7-0 to keep
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:02 PM
Sep 2014

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Ash_F

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Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:03 PM
Sep 2014

I was juror #5. I can't believe how out of touch people are. Do they not know how much intimidation is involved? Police have been really shitty to women who come to them. Why should this girl expect anything better?


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liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
38. Wow! That's one of the very, very few times in the more than eleven
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:01 PM
Sep 2014

years I've been here that I've had a post alerted on! I've been saying for a long while now (along with many others) that the misogyny here has been greatly increasing, with little action taken against it, and that those who try to call it out get alerted on while those who make such posts seem to be able to remain, along with their posts.

Look, I admit that I could have worded that post a little better but I would hardly consider it to be an "assault" and I certainly didn't intend it as such. It just floored me that THAT was the poster's reaction above all else, including the dismissive attitude regarding how long she was carrying the mattress. I'm glad to see that others called him out on it. And no, alerter and juror number 7, it was NOT a "legitimate" or "reasonable" question and there was a time on here when that would have been universally understood. I'm beginning to understand Redqueen's regrettable action and wish she would return.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
13. I actually do thank you
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:54 PM
Sep 2014

I think what she is going through is tragic and actually very typical of how colleges today deal with this. I ask why she didn't go th the police because again and again rapes have been swept under the rug or given a dog and pony show that for one I wished a victim would go full bore and go to the police station and get a real investigation. If a number of victims did this over and over again, perhaps colleges may start taking them seriously. And if not then the local police will continue to have to investigate. Something would happen if every Saturday or Sunday morning, police stations were inundated with rape victims. That to me is called taking real action.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
31. It is unfortunate that you can't respond, but going to police is a nightmare for rape victims
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:06 PM
Sep 2014

My theory is that rape is about power. And many police have a power fetish.

You put two and two together.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
37. "I ask why she didn't go th the police because again and again rapes have been swept under the rug
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:53 PM
Sep 2014

or given a dog and pony show that for one I wished a victim would go full bore and go to the police station and get a real investigation."

It's like you think the police wouldn't do this, too.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
11. After Police Report, Columbia Spectator Publishes Name From Campus ‘Rape List’
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:53 PM
Sep 2014
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/05/columbia-spectator-prints-name-from-rape-list.html

"Sulkowicz is a prominent critic of the University's sexual assault policies. She is listed on the federal complaint against Columbia filed by students in April, and appeared with New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand at a press conference about the issue. She also told the story of her own assault and what she felt was Columbia's clumsy response to it in a New York Times report on the incidents.

"After the New York Times article I had received so much criticism from people online that said, ‘Girls are dumb, this is exactly why girls should go to the police the minute they’re assaulted.’ I wanted to see if they were correct," Sulkowicz says. She characterizes her experience with the NYPD as "awful," and says she is in the process of filing a formal complaint with the city. "The officer basically treated me as if I was the criminal," she said. "After you've been physically violated the last thing you want is to have a policeman who is high on his own power telling you that everything you've just experienced is invalid." Sulkowicz says the assistant district attorney has contacted her about beginning an investigation, and she has been told police are currently looking for her alleged rapist, who she says is out of the country."

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
30. Seems like there's a pattern emerging with police handling badly
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:05 PM
Sep 2014

almost any subject lately, they need much more training in the area of compassion and customer service and need to be reminded that they work for us and are employed by us.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
35. Clery Act.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 05:33 PM
Sep 2014

If they call the police, they have to report the alleged rape (or any type of violent crime) under the Clery Act to prospective students, current students and their parents. So...they don't call the police. If it's successfully adjudicated through on-campus channels, they still have to report it for Clery compliance.

If through on-campus adjudication, the claim is found to be "without merit" and dismissed...no Clery compliance action required. It's perverse but it's in the best interests of the university to adjudicate all claim on-campus and to f**k them up so that they can be dismissed and not reported under Clery.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
18. That is understating it in my opinion
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:08 PM
Sep 2014

To not just come forward, but to so obviously mark herself as a survivor.

It's a shame that her university lacks such courage, especially given that there are multiple official complaints about the same guy.

To many universities treat sexual assault like it's a joke. I'm glad the Justice Department is looking into that via Title IX at a number of colleges.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Sadly, the old adage applies:
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:47 PM
Sep 2014

College will expel you for unpaid bills before anything else...The only time rape technically "exists" on campus is when the victim is the daughter of someone very powerful that can make a lot of public noise...


At my alma mater about 10 years back, a moneyed, well-connected student was getting his ass kicked in a club from a fight that he started (with another student), so he runs out the front door, gets into his car, and while driving away pops off indiscriminate shots at the crowd coming out the front door, hitting a few bystanders and maiming for life the student he was fighting with...Dad was a local business bigwig, so he of course had a parade of character witnesses in court to testify what a great guy his son was...Shooter did 11 months before being paroled, and was even allowed to do his coursework in prison so he graduated on time...At no point was he ever even suspended by the college...The student he shot had to transfer...

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
5. I have the awful suspicion that the
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:40 PM
Sep 2014

administrators were not "confused" about how anal rape happened, they just wanted to humiliate this brave young woman even further; how can you be "confused" about anal rape? I cannot imagine having to undergo that kind of grilling at a hearing where the rapist is supposed to be on the hot seat and not the victim. Then again, this IS college "justice" we're talking about here. Gah.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
8. They'll probably suspend her for vandalizing university property
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:44 PM
Sep 2014

Namely, the mattress.


What a fucked up ordeal for her to have to endure.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
10. I sincerely hope that this makes the administration
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 02:49 PM
Sep 2014

of that school change the way they handle sexual assault and rape cases.

Personally, I believe that all such cases should be in the hands of criminal prosecutors in the jurisdiction where the school is located. Many universities have proven themselves to be incapable of handling these cases properly.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
20. i hope other students support her
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:17 PM
Sep 2014

by helping her carry that mattress around campus. The more the student community participates, the stronger the pressure to get rid of that pathetic freak.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
44. She has as much credibility as the imaginary boyfriend phony gang rape girl. She is a careerist
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:54 AM
Apr 2015

who discovered very quickly that a bullshit story pushed hard enough with the right support could get you.............lemme see..... an invitation to the State of the Union address by a sitting congressman, your picture on the New York times and a glowing review of your art work by Jerry Saltz. This rape was in fact carefully planned....by her, her friends and her instructor who helped her cook up this whole thing.

Just go to College Confidential there are over forty pages of discussion about this case. The current assessment is she is a liar after her affectionate post rape emails to 'her' rapist, (she refers to him
), were published.

I have three art degrees and I saw this coming thirty years ago. I walked away and never pursued an art career because I knew a forty year old man was not going to get warm welcome in any University after 1990 when I graduated. Eventually no men while pursue a degree in humanities due to the gender hostility of women toward men.

To feminists, congratulations you won. I hope you enjoy talking to yourselves.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
46. She lied multiple times as demonstrated by her emails. She had a previous sexual
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 06:29 PM
Apr 2015

relationship with Nungesser where she engaged willingly in anal sex. She then tried to continue the relationship after the so called rape and mentioned anal sex as an enticement in those subsequent emails. While in the original complaint she implied that she did not want, enjoy or consent to anal sex.

She said she loved him and asked him about other girls he was dating.

She broke her confidentiality agreement with Columbia and claimed to the press that they asked her to contact Nungesser and talk over the 'rape' with him as a means of settling the matter. The university denies that as a matter of written policy. It never happened. They asked her during the investigation whether she had contacted him after the incident to establish a chronology of facts concerning the incident. They did not recommend that she contact him to settle the matter. So she lied about that.

She has shown a consistent pattern of lying, distortion of facts and demonstrable pattern of planning this incident since the summer of 2014. In fact she planned it over the phone with her senior art instructor Jon Kessler. That was three months before the launch of the project during the day of protest. Kessler is being sued for his part in the affair so she either duped him into going along with her planned shame campaign or he was a willing participant. He'll be lucky to come out of this with his job and reputation intact.

She discovered very quickly that this hoax would make her a celebrity, which it has. Since we live in a culture of celebrity where truth and talent don't matter she will translate this into a teaching job at a major university regardless of whether Nungesser wins his lawsuit and she is discredited.

An to top it off you are eliding Rape Culture with and into the Rape Industry. Is that the next misanderist thought bubble to be forwarded as fact by the Feminist Industry?

Women are fast reaching the point where men, even sympathetic men will no longer engage women unless it is an absolute requirement of their employment and then only in the most guarded circumstances.

If you were a woman and valued the friendship and companionship of men, ask yourself whether you would consider the world a better place if rigid gender apartheid was the prevailing social order. And then ask yourself if that would make you a happier and better person.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
24. I don't understand how criminal accusations like this can be handled by some university panel, and
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 03:56 PM
Sep 2014

a Dean given the authority to summarily dismiss the charges. This should go straight to the actual police and the courts.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
26. Too bad she can't make her rapist carry the mattress around
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 04:29 PM
Sep 2014

as a punishment. She is right though. That is what rape victims feel. It is not a crime that happens and then is over, for the victim. We carry that shit with us the rest of our lives. It's horrible.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
39. All rape allegations should be handled by the police.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:09 PM
Sep 2014

Universities are about as effective as investigating rape allegations as police departments would be at teaching liberal arts.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
40. She characterizes her experience with the NYPD as "awful"
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 06:40 PM
Sep 2014

"After the New York Times article I had received so much criticism from people online that said, ‘Girls are dumb, this is exactly why girls should go to the police the minute they’re assaulted.’ I wanted to see if they were correct," Sulkowicz says. She characterizes her experience with the NYPD as "awful," and says she is in the process of filing a formal complaint with the city. "The officer basically treated me as if I was the criminal," she said. "After you've been physically violated the last thing you want is to have a policeman who is high on his own power telling you that everything you've just experienced is invalid." Sulkowicz says the assistant district attorney has contacted her about beginning an investigation, and she has been told police are currently looking for her alleged rapist, who she says is out of the country."

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
43. People don't realize
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 11:04 AM
Sep 2014

how vulnerable students are to rape. Especially at the change of semester when lots of moving in and out is going on and doors are left unlocked. The freedom of living on campus is often abused. It's really a big problem.

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