Juvenile court: Michael Brown had no serious felony convictions, did not face felony charges

[CatWoman]

Updated with information coming from Post-Dispatch questioning of court official.

CLAYTON • Michael Brown was never found delinquent of the juvenile equivalents of any Class A or B felony charges, and was not facing any at the time he died, a court official said this morning. The court was holding a hearing on whether Brown's juvenile records should be released.

Police said earlier that the 18-year-old Brown had no adult criminal record.

The Post-Dispatch had filed a petition in St. Louis County Circuit Court to unseal any records about him in family court, if any existed. Charles C. Johnson, a conservative blogger from Los Angeles, also requested the records be opened.

Johnson and others have claimed that Brown was facing a murder charge at the time he was shot to death.

Cynthia Harcourt, a lawyer for St. Louis County Juvenile Officer Kip Seeley, argued against releasing those records, but acknowledged there were no convictions for the most serious types of felonies. After the hearing, she told the Post-Dispatch Brown was not facing any serious felony charges when he died.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/juvenile-court-michael-brown-had-no-serious-felony-convictions-did/article_43c9bbbb-356f-5ea6-b9e2-7dde7e3e5c83.html

[The Magistrate]

1. Simply Amazing, Ma'am, How Far People Go To Pretend This Young Man 'Should Have Been' Shot...

[CatWoman]

2. yep

and if you can stomach it, you should read some of the comments on that article.

they are STILL at it.

[Jack Rabbit]

33. Reviewed a few and you're right

A few who post more than once seem to have never heard a conspiracy theory regarding covering up police records concerning young black criminals or accused criminals that they won't believe. They give reasons why Mike Brown should be considered guilty of something until proven innocent. I'm not sure there's any proof good enough for them.

[NYC_SKP]

36. It's almost as if the unarmed VICTIM is on trial here. WTF about the murderer?

I read nothing about an investigation, much less an indictment.

[Efilroft Sul]

41. Once again, an unarmed black kid has to stand trial for his murder. N/T

[Enthusiast]

45. There is no ALMOST about it.

[AuntPatsy]

12. I so agree with you, it's sickening!

[FarPoint]

19. On my Facebook wall...one of my ex employees posted a false picture of a beaten up Officer Wilson.

It was some guy probably 15 years younger than Wilson with facial lacerations, huge bruised right eye...fella had brown hair and was wearing a hospital gown. Post was directing readers to acknowledges the injuries as a good reason for anyone to shoot Michael Brown. I immediately posted a response to that being a total hoax. The problem is, the fox news reading minions drink this koolaide like fine wine.

That is how desperate they are in assignation of Browns character.

[arcane1]

26. They will still pull out that photo years from now.

Even knowing that it's fake, they will STILL DO IT.

[AverageJoe90]

22. It is quite tragic indeed, and upsetting. nt

[gratuitous]

3. Did Officer Wilson have a juvie record?

I wonder if award-winning blogger Charles C. Johnson will be tracking down that little tidbit of information? You know, just for fairness and balance and all that delicious award-winning bloggy goodness.

[rurallib]

25. and if he did, should he be shot?

or at least be a target?

[JaneyVee]

4. The ONLY thug was Darren Wilson.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. Doesn't matter much, but good to know

I can't see any excuse for what happened, even of he was a felon. Felons and police confront each other all the time, without a fusillade of shots ending an unarmed person's life.

Why isn't that cop in custody yet?

[appleannie1]

6. And of course the white cop could not have been the one in the wrong. These people

make me ill.

[underpants]

7. Have they checked his status at the public library

Maybe he checked out a copy of "Tropic of Cancer" and didn't return it.

The comments there are mostly sad but their are some from people not bleeding from their knuckles into the keyboard.

[CatWoman]

8. lol

you always make me laugh

[underpants]

9. :-)

"I don't judge a man by the length of his hair or the kind of music he listens to. Rock was never my bag. But you put on a pair of shoes when you walk into the New York Public Library, fella."


"Let me tell you something, funny boy... You know that little stamp? The one that says New York Public Library? Well, that may not mean anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole helluva lot. Sure, go ahead, laugh if you want to. I've seen your type before -- flashy, making the scene, flaunting convention. Yeah, I know what you're thinking... Why's this guy making such a big stink about old library books? Let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without libraries, people like you and me.... Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change the world. What about that kid, sitting down, opening a book right now in a branch of the local library and finding pictures of pee-pees and wee-wees in The Cat in the Hat and The Five Chinese Brothers. Doesn't he deserve better? Look, if you think this is about overdue fines and missing books, you'd better think again. This is about that kid's right to read a book without getting his mind warped. Or maybe that turns you on, Seinfeld... Maybe that's how you get your kicks... You and your goodtime buddies... I've got a flash for you, joy boy. Partytime is over."

[arcane1]

27. Haha! That's EXACTLY who I thought of when I read your other post

[Enthusiast]

44. ...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. ..

[arcane1]

10. WTF??? "claimed that Brown was facing a murder charge at the time"?????

How low can they go??????


Don't answer that. I know the answer

[1StrongBlackMan]

18. If the family has the energy ...

a defamation suit would Shut them TFU.

[LittleGirl]

20. +1 eom

[XemaSab]

11. As opposed to felonies that aren't serious?

What the hell does that even mean, "serious"?

[JaneyVee]

13. He was being smeared as a murderer...

So I'm guessing murder would be serious.

[XemaSab]

17. I'm saying that just dropping the word "serious" in there is a smear

Either you have felony convictions or you don't, and if he didn't, then they should have said so.

Try showing up for a job interview and telling them that you have felony convictions but they weren't "serious" and see how that goes.

[pnwmom]

30. In Missouri, possessing more than an ounce of pot is a felony. Selling any amount is a felony.

Most of us, I think, would view those as non-serious felonies.

[XemaSab]

31. I went to the Barnes and Noble today

and half the books in the gardening section were about growing weed.

I don't live in Washington or Colorado.

My point was that throwing the word "serious" in there is shitty.

[pnwmom]

32. I don't think so. He could well have had some felonies in his record, and it was better

to make it clear that they weren't serious -- besides being totally irrelevant.

[CatWoman]

40. I think the word "serious" was used to slap down the accusation

of attempted murder, or whatever those idiots were saying about him.

That is how they got this hearing, by making those accusations.

[surrealAmerican]

34. That's just sad.

There are way more people looking for advice about growing tomatoes. Why are their needs not being met? Get cracking, you gardening writers, you.

[XemaSab]

37. It was a large gardening section

There were many books about growing vegetables, fruit trees, flowers... and pot plants.

[Quayblue]

39. i looked at that wording sideways too

And the fact this even is being done is bullshit

[KamaAina]

14. If he had been facing a murder charge,

given the color of his skin, he most certainly would have been charged as an adult.

[underpants]

23. Something tells me that he wouldn't have faced any charge outside of jail

Only rich people face charges. Everyone else stays in jail and awaits trial.

[surrealAmerican]

35. This is why I never believed that for a minute.

Murder, really? He certainly would have been charged as an adult if her were more than 12 years old. This is not a kid who could claim "afflueza".

[Enthusiast]

43. +1

[treestar]

15. I hate the way they bring this stuff up because legally it doesn't matter

It's just irrelevant. It's like they are trying to justify shooting Brown as a "bad person" not because he was an immediate deadly threat. Like they don't have to argue and show that.

[CakeGrrl]

24. That's what they're doing. It's all they have

Because what little information that's been released about the shooting does not look good for their hero/murderer Wilson.

Now it's down to playing the "scary black thug - no big loss anyway" card.

If Wilson is incarcerated, their inevitable howls will be music.

[mercuryblues]

28. There is

a thread on Du about a 5'5" female Marshal taking down a 6'4" male that groped her. So please tell me how a cop is afraid of a man, about the same height, so much that he has to shoot him in self defense? Not that I believe that it was self defense.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025484631

[AverageJoe90]

21. Yes, the evidence is clearly showing the truth, what many of us suspected all along.

Mike Brown was just another decent kid trying to make something of himself in this world. But thanks to idiot cop Darren Wilson, he never got that chance.....

[Rex]

29. The more they try and smear Brown's good name, the more guilty they look imo.

Racists are pathetic people.

[Trekologer]

38. Let's assume for a moment that Michael Brown did have a history as a juvenile

That doesn't justify his being shot in any way. The police are not the final arbiter of the law. Let's also assume that Michael Brown was a physical threat. Once the threat was removed, Officer Wilson and the Ferguson Police Department had the same responsibility to protect Michael Brown as anyone else. That doesn't appear to have happened since they left his body in the street for hours and wasn't immediately taken to the hospital.

[Enthusiast]

42. Conservative blogger lies—as reliable as the sunrise.