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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:49 PM Sep 2014

Is it likely that the "Military Industrial Complex" will successfully dupe Obama

into an unnecessary war?


2 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, very likely. Obama is naive enough to fall into such a trap.
0 (0%)
Yes, likely. I don't trust Obama to resist that kind of pressure.
1 (50%)
No, not likely. Obama is a smart guy who I trust to do the right thing.
1 (50%)
Likely? It's already happened!
0 (0%)
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Is it likely that the "Military Industrial Complex" will successfully dupe Obama (Original Post) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 OP
more teevee gnewz beating the war drums. + GOP in congress are hooked on. pansypoo53219 Sep 2014 #1
Duped? No. Coerced/threatened/blackmailed? Almost certainly. Scuba Sep 2014 #2
Now there I might agree with you. I also think that there is a factor here that wasn't there before: jwirr Sep 2014 #4
I would like to vote no.... NCTraveler Sep 2014 #3
That's my vote too. Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #5
Duped by it? He is part of it! immoderate Sep 2014 #6
Who'd you vote for in 2012? nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #7
A rather intimate question. immoderate Sep 2014 #9
Why would you vote for someone who has been duped by the MIC? nt Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #12
Someone might have limited choices. Went for the most electable, least corporate. immoderate Sep 2014 #14
"Do you think I did wrong?" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #15
It's hard for the commander-in-chief to avoid the MIC. immoderate Sep 2014 #17
Anarchy is good. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2014 #19
If it "catches on." immoderate Sep 2014 #20
He was already "duped" into increasing military operations in Africa by 217% since he took office. Maedhros Sep 2014 #10
Push poll much? badtoworse Sep 2014 #8
No one dupes the Obama. The Obama dupes you. randome Sep 2014 #11
Who knows? Raffi Ella Sep 2014 #13
Somewhat likely. He's given in on some things Union Scribe Sep 2014 #16
What makes you think he needs to be duped? whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #18
Kicking. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #21

pansypoo53219

(20,952 posts)
1. more teevee gnewz beating the war drums. + GOP in congress are hooked on.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:52 PM
Sep 2014

ISIL is using the bin laden ploy. not as catchy as 9/11 tho.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
4. Now there I might agree with you. I also think that there is a factor here that wasn't there before:
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:06 PM
Sep 2014

Kerry and Hagel. Neither of them is so ignorant that they don't remember they were in Vietnam.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. I would like to vote no....
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014

but I don't agree with the premise he will do the right thing. Do I think he will be duped? no. Is he smart? yes. Do I trust him to do the right thing? no. If anyone trusts a politician at this point in time then they are fools or one percenters.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
9. A rather intimate question.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:44 PM
Sep 2014

I am in Florida. The choice was obvious.

Hint: I'm not a Romney kind of guy. At his best he is very creepy.

--imm


 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
14. Someone might have limited choices. Went for the most electable, least corporate.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:17 PM
Sep 2014

In the struggle for society, between the sane billionaires and the insane billionaires, Obama seemed more aligned with the sane billionaires, and ostensibly more moderate militarily. But one can never know, can one?

Do you think I did wrong? Who would you have recommended?

--imm

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
15. "Do you think I did wrong?"
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:25 PM
Sep 2014

When I think of the MIC I think of a threat that is an existential threat to life and liberty across the breadth and depth of the world. Anyone serving such a thing can bring no good thing with them. No amount of healthcare or education could counter such a thing and in fact should probably be seen as either a ruse or yet another means attaining of control.


Who would you have recommended?

I reject the premise Obama is a part of the MIC, unwittingly or otherwise.
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
10. He was already "duped" into increasing military operations in Africa by 217% since he took office.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

Obama has given little reason to think he opposes war.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. No one dupes the Obama. The Obama dupes you.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Sometimes it seems like the only purpose in life is to keep your car from touching another's.[/center][/font][hr]

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
13. Who knows?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:00 PM
Sep 2014

I can say this, I was shocked by the rhetoric I heard coming from Obama and now Biden about the beheadings that took place. They reek of the same Cowboy mentality that I heard coming from bUsh all those years ago. Follow Them to The Gates of Hell is not much different than Wanted Dead or Alive.

I think the thing that will prevent another unnecessary war is the American People. We've now seen up close and personal what it can do to our men and women and that it is not as easy as going in to liberate-


As bUsh said: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

I am hoping that that is the case anyway, that Americans don't want another war...

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
16. Somewhat likely. He's given in on some things
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:28 PM
Sep 2014

and resisted on others, thankfully. That's why they're pushing conflict on a number of different fronts. If they don't get their way in one place, they hope to in another.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
18. What makes you think he needs to be duped?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:42 PM
Sep 2014

I think he's down with it and simply waiting for the right political circumstances. Maybe the nexus of the next staged atrocity and a shift in public support.

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