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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 08:12 AM Sep 2014

U.S. and Allies Form Coalition With Intent to Destroy ISIS

The Obama administration said Friday that the United States and its allies had formed a core coalition to fight Sunni militants of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, unveiling a military and political campaign that officials said could serve as a model for combating extremist groups around the world.

In a hastily organized meeting on the sidelines of the NATO summit here, diplomats and defense officials from the United States, Britain, France, Australia, Canada, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark conferred on what they called a two-pronged strategy: working to bolster allies on the ground in Iraq and Syria, while attacking Sunni militants from the air. They said the goal was to destroy the Islamic militant group, not to contain it.

“There is no containment policy for ISIL,” Secretary of State John Kerry said at the beginning of the meeting, using an alternate acronym for ISIS. “They’re an ambitious, avowed, genocidal, territorial-grabbing, caliphate-desiring quasi state with an irregular army, and leaving them in some capacity intact anywhere would leave a cancer in place that will ultimately come back to haunt us.

But he and other officials present made clear that at the moment, any ground combat troops would come from either Iraqi security forces and Kurdish pesh merga fighters on the ground in Iraq, or from moderate Syrian rebels opposed to the government of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. “Obviously I think that’s a red line for everybody here: no boots on the ground,” Mr. Kerry said.

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The Obama administration is also seeking to pursue a sequential strategy that begins with gathering intelligence, and is followed by targeted airstrikes, more robust and better-coordinated support for moderate rebels, and finally, a political reconciliation process.

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“This is going to take months,” one Defense Department official said on Friday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/world/europe/nato-summit.html?_r=0

Here we go. We are entering an open ended air war in Iraq AND Syria. We are looking for regime change in Syria as well. "Destroying" IS is impossible without a ground war. So, this war will just go on indefinitely without an obtainable objective (like Afghanistan) or we will end up with a ground war.

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U.S. and Allies Form Coalition With Intent to Destroy ISIS (Original Post) morningfog Sep 2014 OP
Bush Lite doctrine of pre emption. morningfog Sep 2014 #1
I think the American Civil War and WWI deutsey Sep 2014 #2
Indeed. And the current objectives are absurd: morningfog Sep 2014 #3
We've seen this movie before. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #4
We've seen this movie too many times. It always fails. morningfog Sep 2014 #5
+infinity!!!!!!!nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #6
Kick morningfog Sep 2014 #7
PNAC Still Pulls a Lot of String Octafish Sep 2014 #8
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. Indeed. And the current objectives are absurd:
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 08:28 AM
Sep 2014

Ousting Assad.
Building "moderate" Syrian Army.
Destroying IS.
For fucks sake.
This is even more ambitious and unattainable than bush's folly.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. We've seen this movie before.
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 08:35 AM
Sep 2014

And before too long, I've no doubt Hillary will pop up and run on spreading freedom and American values all over the world...

Which never seems to actually work out.

It just seems to create more chaos and more problems to deal with down the road.

In the meantime, we never get a chance to solve our own problems here at home or rebuild our own infrastructure.

It's almost like there is a plan to weaken the sovereignty of every nation in the world and make them unable to deal with their own problems.

And which all coincidentally helps transnational corporations and the arms and surveillance industry.



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. PNAC Still Pulls a Lot of String
Fri Sep 5, 2014, 11:13 AM
Sep 2014

Would never think they were attached to John Kerry, but they're showing up against the brick backdrop.

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