Regina men’s barbershop and woman they refused to serve both the target of threats

[AngryAmish]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/03/regina-mens-barbershop-and-woman-they-refused-to-serve-both-the-target-of-threats/

"REGINA — A Regina barbershop that serves only men has become the target of threats and insults after refusing a woman who requested a “hard part” men’s haircut.

Ragged Ass Barbers, on its website, describes the shop as “providing exceptional grooming services for men in a unique atmosphere geared specifically to men.”

After two years of operating and building a word of mouth reputation in Regina, the barbershop attracted the interest of Evie Ruddy, who told reporters she had requested a “hard part” traditional men’s haircut but was refused. Her rejection prompted about a dozen women to call the shop for appointments in protest.

“[Ms. Ruddy] has been wronged,” said Claire Carter, assistant professor of women’s and gender studies at the University of Regina."

[NYC_SKP]

1. I would never go to any place that didn't want me to come there.

If Ms. Carter, assistant professor of women’s and gender studies, wants to take her chances being in a place where she isn't welcomed, I guess she's free to want that and try her level best to change things.

Me, I get my haircut from a nice woman who likes me and wants my business.

[REP]

4. Blacks should have stayed out of certain schools where they weren't welcome

Jews shouldn't try to join clubs where they're not wanted

Women aren't welcome in the voting booth, so why should they bother? They're not wanted there.

LGBT people aren't welcome to treated as full, equal citizens, so they should stop trying.

Knowing in your place - that's how progress is made!

[NYC_SKP]

6. Absurd comparison.

Nothing I wrote deserves what you've written in your reply.

I'm saddened that you can dismiss the very real plight of Jews, women before they could vote, and LGBT citizens with a desire by a barber shop or beauty shop to serve only one sex or the other.

If it was an old school women's beauty salon that wanted a female only clientele, I would feel the same way.

It's a private business and it's their right. No man is going to lose their voting right or any other right for being asked to leave.

Tell me, should men insist on using women's bathrooms and showers, or vice-versa?

How about men or women only gymnasia?

http://fitnessmarketing.com/2011/04/are-women-only-gyms-guilty-of-discrimination/

[REP]

10. It's a freaking haircut

I've yet to even hear of "an old school women's beauty salon" that refused male patrons, but it's just as stupid.

The idea of "I wouldn't go where I'm not wanted" is what I'm mocking. Then again, I'm a number of the things I listed, so going where I'm not wanted is something I do every day.

[cherokeeprogressive]

7. I think I'll go work out at Curves in the morning...

How do you think that will go over, and are you going to support me as wholeheartedly?

[REP]

9. Why not?

If you are in the kind of physical condition that Curves is the best fit for you, I can't see the problem.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. Curves doesn't welcome customers with a broken X chromosome.

[Niceguy1]

18. very good point

I dont hear any complaints about women only areas

[Donald Ian Rankin]

8. I'm not wholly convinced by your analogy.

If a school doesn't welcome blacks nowadays, the ideal response is it to close it down - because something has clearly gone terribly, terribly wrong with its oversight and staff - and open another one on the same site.

In the modern era, suggesting that the way to deal with a school systematically discriminating against black children is to send more black children there would be bizarre.

But, obviously, it will only be practical to do that for a small number of schools. Nowadays we could afford to do that, but in the 60s and 70s settling for integrating schools rather than restaffing them was necessary because of the scale of the restaffing that would have been needed.

[AuntPatsy]

2. I honestly do not see the point?

[LanternWaste]

3. Of men's only hair salon? Me too...

"I honestly do not see the point"

Of men's only hair salon? Me too...

[upaloopa]

5. If they only do hair cuts I think they should serve

women but other things women get at a stylist most likely will not be offered.
If they are squeamish about touching women's heads maybe they could hire some men that are not or hire some women barbers.

[Scootaloo]

12. Read the article. She went in and asked for a style they offer, a "men's hard part"

She was refused this service, despite it obviously being one provided by the establishment. There's no excuse for that.

[AuntPatsy]

13. That's true, at the same time it almost feels as if a wasted attempt to shine the light on women

Having to deal with doors slammed on them daily....

Not trying to argue, just feel that sometimes one must step back, breathe, and then pick her battles with more meaning.....

My husband goes to a Barber Shop, same one for years, though it's all men he has tried to get me to go with him and get my hair cut there....I guess not all Barber Shops are the same

[upaloopa]

15. I agree

[NYC_SKP]

16. Personally, I think two different things in this particular case.

First, maybe the shop culture there includes rude sexist jokes, or talking about men things, I don't know, I don't live there and wouldn't frequent that kind of place. I imagine this might be the case in some locker rooms.
If it was a fire department or police station and about a woman's job, I'd feel differently, but this is a barber shop, a private business.

Second, maybe and I mean just maybe, some bad vibes were felt. Maybe they were rude, maybe she was rude.

Maybe a different woman wanting the same cut would have gotten it but this woman didn't get it.

I don't know, but I don't think it's worthy of a lawsuit but I don't know and wasn't there and have a female cut my man hair in a unisex kind of setting.

I don't support the barber shop, but I also don't support any outrage over their refusal to serve this client without more information.

[davidpdx]

17. That's a good point

None of us were there and witnessed the conversation, so we have no idea what exactly was said by the woman who was interviewed or the people at the barbershop. My guess is that she heard through someone she knows that this place was only for males and felt she had to confront them about it.

When I was younger (in high school) I went to a beauty shop to get my haircut as I decided to grow it long the summer before my senior year (I had hair down to my shoulders). Obviously longer hair and the type of cut I wanted was more complex than just going to a barber and asking them to whack a bunch of hair off.

I don't know what to think about it honestly. I can see both sides and there is really no clear cut winner (pardon the pun).

[silverweb]

11. It wasn't atypical in my day.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Years ago, I used to have a barber cut my hair because it was the only way I could get what I asked for.

Unisex places like SuperCuts didn't exist yet, and women's salons always but always insisted on feathering, layering, teasing, and otherwise f--king up the professional straight, blunt cut I asked for.

My dad finally talked to his barber for me and that's where I went from then on, because other barbers would shoo me away like I was a freak for even asking.

[Orrex]

19. Maybe they could rename it The Regina Monologues.

[Tom Ripley]

20. I get her point, but I am sure as hell not getting my hair cut...

at a place that does not want me.
My vanity outweighs my outrage.