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yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:09 AM Sep 2014

Japan suicide rate ranked 4th among high-income countries, WHO report says

About 803,900 people worldwide are estimated to have killed themselves in 2012, a World Health Organization report revealed Thursday.

Japan, which had 29,442 suicides in the same year, ranked fourth among high-income countries in terms of the number of suicides per 100,000 people, following South Korea, Lithuania and Russia.

Suicides in low- and middle-income countries accounted for nearly 75.5 percent of the total, the report said.

Many of the deaths were among those aged 70 and over. Among people aged 15-29, suicide was the second-leading cause of death after traffic accidents. Almost twice as many men committed suicide as women.
- See more at: http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/109373.php#sthash.MenOnlei.dpuf


2 school girls jump to death from Tokyo apartment building

National Sep. 06, 2014 - 03:30PM JST ( 1 )

TOKYO —

Two elementary school girls, aged 11 and 12, apparently jumped to their deaths from an apartment building in Tokyo’s Ota Ward, police said Saturday.

According to police, the girls—who were classmates—were found dead in the asphalt parking lot near the entrance to the building at around 3:30 p.m. Friday, TBS reported.

The building is nine stories high. Police said the girls appear to have jumped from the stairwell between the 7th and 8th floors. TBS quoted police as saying the girls’ shoes and a suicide note were left at the scene but declined to give details about what the note said.

Police said the 11-year-old girl lived with her family in the apartment building, while her 12-year-old classmate lived nearby.

A school official told media that he was unaware of any bullying incidents involving the girls who were both at school on Friday.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/2-school-girls-jump-to-death-from-tokyo-apartment-building

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140906p2g00m0dm060000c.htmld

Record high for youth suicide in Japan (from 2010)
The number of students who committed suicide last year in the country hit a record figure of 1,029, up 101 cases or 10.9 per cent from the previous year, the National Police Agency said Friday.

It was the first time that the number exceeded 1,000 since the NPA started recording statistics in 1978.

The NPA also reported the total number of suicides across the nation has exceeded 30,000 for 14 consecutive years up to 2011, though the number declined by 1,039, or 3.3 per cent, to 30,651 from the previous year.

Of the students, the number of university students who killed themselves rose by 16 to 529 from the previous year while the number of high school students who did so increased by 65 to 269, according to the NPA. The combined figures accounted for about 80 per cent of the total number of students who committed suicide.

By age group, the number of people 19 or younger who committed suicide rose by 12.7 per cent to 622 from the previous year, and the figure for those in their 20s increased by 2 per cent to 3,302.
- See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Asia/Story/A1Story20120310-332649.html#sthash.4TjmLYbP.dpuf

more: http://thediplomat.com/2013/01/searching-for-answers-japans-suicide-epidemic/



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Japan suicide rate ranked 4th among high-income countries, WHO report says (Original Post) yuiyoshida Sep 2014 OP
Not surprised that Japan and Korea are at the top of the list davidpdx Sep 2014 #1
Its no wonder this song was very popular... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #2
they have literally been working themselves to death (the japanese) La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #3
There is a term for that...Karoshi yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #6
There is a forest in Japan which is known for suicides. cwydro Sep 2014 #4
Its at the foot of Mount Fuji yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #5
I've forgotten the name. On purpose, no doubt, cwydro Sep 2014 #10
Aokigahara yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #12
I wonder if Japan still counts a father killing his wife and two kids, then himself as four suicides X_Digger Sep 2014 #7
I am sure those are considered as they are here in the States yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #8
I'll look it up, but there were some incredibly dubious "suicides".. X_Digger Sep 2014 #9
What I was focusing on were suicides... especially those by those yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #11
No doubt. n/t X_Digger Sep 2014 #13
I knew exactly what you were saying. cwydro Sep 2014 #14
What sickens me the most are the idea that two yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #15
I've read that. cwydro Sep 2014 #16
There is a saying in Japan.... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #17
Same saying elsewhere - cwydro Sep 2014 #19
tall poppy mentioned in the link yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #20
Suicide is always horrible, but hearing about the 11 and 12 year olds was completely shocking smirkymonkey Sep 2014 #18
My first guess would be that maybe their parents (mothers) Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #21
I hope this is not a thing that happens often, Art.... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #22
I have known a lot of so-called "kyoiku mamas" Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #23

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
1. Not surprised that Japan and Korea are at the top of the list
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:23 AM
Sep 2014

There was a case of someone jumping from a building here in Korea and the person hit another person who was walking below them. Two lives gone in the blink of an eye. Very sad.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
2. Its no wonder this song was very popular...
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:43 PM
Sep 2014

Dive to Blue



Lyrcis in English: http://www.animelyrics.com/jpop/larcenciel/divetoblue.
The original video was about a man leaping to his death from a very tall executive tower. People witness him on his way down, many without even shock on their faces, as though they have seen it so many times before.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. There is a forest in Japan which is known for suicides.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 06:51 PM
Sep 2014

Horrible. I came upon it accidentally some time ago. Cannot remember the name, and I don't want to.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. I've forgotten the name. On purpose, no doubt,
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:24 PM
Sep 2014

It was actually in my Backpacker or some wilderness mag or I never would have clicked.

Horrible, and I hate when I do that. Yeah, I think there was a documentary...probably that's what I read.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
7. I wonder if Japan still counts a father killing his wife and two kids, then himself as four suicides
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:10 PM
Sep 2014

Or if some police departments still rule as suicide when they can't immediately arrest someone (anyone!) for a murder.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
9. I'll look it up, but there were some incredibly dubious "suicides"..
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:20 PM
Sep 2014

Like a guy tied up, knife in the back, thrown-- excuse me.. JUMPED from a bridge.. suicide.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
11. What I was focusing on were suicides... especially those by those
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 08:25 PM
Sep 2014

two young girls of 11 and 12 leaping to their deaths. How can an 11 year old even think of such a thing, or a 12 year old??. Its horrible. I feel for their families and those left behind who knew them.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. I knew exactly what you were saying.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:11 PM
Sep 2014

And no doubt that is why I was reminded of that forest.

I did not link back to it again. It physically sickened me. So I understand what you're saying.

Seems a strange trend there? Or what? I don't know a lot about Japan, but I have had Japanese friends. Obviously, this is not something I would bring up with anyone I know. I've never brought up that horrible forest thing with anyone since the day I saw it. Maybe it was the NYTimes magazine...honestly cannot imagine how I learned this.

But your post reminded me. Why? Why do you think this is happening?

I have personal knowledge of suicide, and it makes me very uneasy...unhappy, confused...not enough words actually.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
15. What sickens me the most are the idea that two
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:31 PM
Sep 2014

young girls 11 and 12 could even consider the thought of leaping together to their death from a 7th or 8th floor level. Who taught them to place their shoes neatly where they jumped? I wonder what was in their note, they left behind? Were they bullied? Why was LIFE SO unbearable that they could not get help, where were their parents? Where were their friends?

I had a friend tell me, she lived in Japan for a while, during her high school years. She told me she had considered jumping to her death, if her parents did not return her to the USA to finish school. She said the kids were so far advanced, that she felt blame for keeping her classmates back, despite the fact, there had been no blame, directed at her. The pressure of school there was so intense that to her leaving Japan or death were her only alternatives.

School there is a totally different mind set there. I have read about musicians who were juniors in high school, actually cutting an album, they were so good, and yet, after high school graduation, giving up the music business, because their parents said there was no future in it. How Corporations like SONY, or Toyota would come to the school scouting for future employees. (Here in the USA its a College scouting for athletes.)

There is a drive there to be the best one can be, and the pressure to go along with it. Most of the suicides in Japan are either elderly or high school kids. One has to ask, why is that? If someone makes a major mistake that effects a lot of people, they maybe re-assigned or given a job way below their performance level, but they can live with that..

In High School, the idea of failure .. is one that students would rather not have to contemplate, and some have simply gone to the roofs at school and leaped to their deaths. Too many have. Its something Japan has been trying to remedy... for a long, long time, and yet here it is in the headlines again.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. I've read that.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:54 PM
Sep 2014

About the incredible pressure.

I've heard it's the same in China and in South Korea.

We have no idea what is happening in North Korea...and probably an infinitesimal idea of what is happening in China.

Why? That's a great question.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Suicide is always horrible, but hearing about the 11 and 12 year olds was completely shocking
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 10:11 PM
Sep 2014

and tragic. I don't understand what could drive such young children to do such a thing. I had a pretty abusive and stressful (due to having to be number 1 at everything) upbringing, but I never seriously contemplated killing myself at that age.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
21. My first guess would be that maybe their parents (mothers)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:04 AM
Sep 2014

were pushing them too hard to succeed in school.

A second guess would be bullying.

A third guess would be an unbearable home life.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
22. I hope this is not a thing that happens often, Art....
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

I just read about a suicide hot line be installed in the area where the Tsunami hit..there are still people there taking their lives over their destroyed property. Sad...very sad.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
23. I have known a lot of so-called "kyoiku mamas"
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Sep 2014

who are really gung-ho about their kids's education. Sometimes they can push their kids too far.

As for the tsunami areas, I was talking to a woman the other night about doing volunteer work in one of the hardest-hit places, Ishinomaki City in Miyagi Prefecture. She said a lot of people have given up hope of going back to their former homes and have either relocated permanently or... And the people who remain are still struggling to cope with the disaster, 3 1/2 years later.

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