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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:04 PM Sep 2014

Ringo Starr takes on IS over Beatles nickname: 'It's bulls**t... We stood for peace and love'

Ringo Starr today told of his disgust over British jihadis being given nicknames based on The Beatles.

The drummer said he was saddened that the fanatics — led by a man dubbed “Jihadi John”, who is suspected of beheading two American journalists — had been labelled with the names of the Fab Four.

Starr, 74, told the Standard: “It’s bullshit. What they are doing out there is against everything The Beatles stood for.”

The nicknames were revealed by a former captive, who said three Britons guarding captives in Syria had been dubbed John, Paul and Ringo due to their accents.

Starr said he was powerless to prevent the names of the band or his bandmates being attached to the fanatics. He said: “If we stood for anything we never stood for that. The four of us absolutely stood for peace and love. But we are not in control.” “Jihadi John” is being hunted by US forces after also threatening on video to behead British hostage David Haines.

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ringo-starr-takes-on-is-over-beatles-nickname-its-bullst-we-stood-for-peace-and-love-9711463.html

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Ringo Starr takes on IS over Beatles nickname: 'It's bulls**t... We stood for peace and love' (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2014 OP
Good for Ringo! Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #1
One reason I have heard that he wasn't is that he opted to be a tax exile, karynnj Sep 2014 #19
Well, screw that noise... Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #32
Kind of a great illustration of what is wrong with extremism. randys1 Sep 2014 #2
And with the mass media that echoes the names. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #22
It's certainly his right to speak out but really, I seriously doubt anyone gives credence to the Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #3
I am glad he said something about this not that he is obliged mind you Kalidurga Sep 2014 #4
Their captives called them that because of their London accents... Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #6
Thank you I didn't know what that accent was called Kalidurga Sep 2014 #9
...as Joan Rivers famously riffed on: Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #12
Oh that was good Kalidurga Sep 2014 #14
Here you go, all 17 major English accents: EX500rider Sep 2014 #18
Thanks, that was a few minutes not wasted at all. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #23
Well I so posted it just for you so I'm crushed....or not... EX500rider Sep 2014 #31
Scouse Scarsdale Sep 2014 #25
THIS is the best post of all on this thread! Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #33
If you want to know more about the world the Beatles grew up in... mattclearing Sep 2014 #36
Yes, that made no sense at all Tom Ripley Sep 2014 #20
There was an article about a five-year old musical prodigy here a month or so ago BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #5
I thank FSM every day... Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #7
:-) MuseRider Sep 2014 #16
What is FSM? ann--- Sep 2014 #26
Flying Spaghetti Monster Cooley Hurd Sep 2014 #27
Good on him for pointing out the very IRONY of the use of their names. The exact opposite if Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #8
Glad he spoke out on this. logosoco Sep 2014 #10
I don't know... would it have been better to just ignore it? cui bono Sep 2014 #11
^^^^THIS ^^^^^^ Publicity is what they crave, why does the media give to them in spades? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #24
maybe the Thatchers JI7 Sep 2014 #13
If the nickname weren't based on their accents, I'd favor.... DonViejo Sep 2014 #17
Had 'Jack the Ripper' already been taken? n/t IDemo Sep 2014 #15
I'm glad LiberalElite Sep 2014 #21
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #29
Expedience and ignorance, thank MSM . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #28
They're fucking cockroaches. 180 degrees of the Beatles. Cha Sep 2014 #30
longtime Ringo fan here Skittles Sep 2014 #34
He needs to ring up Miss Moneypenny and drop another hint about that knighthood. ucrdem Sep 2014 #35
Did they name themselves, or what? Apparently they grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #37
Based on the Pictures he reminds me of Ali G JI7 Sep 2014 #38
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. Good for Ringo!
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:08 PM
Sep 2014

Keep Rocking, Sir Ringo! Oh, wait... Ringo hasn't been knighted??? Well, that should fucking change!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2434339/Will-Britains-honours-bigwigs-reconsider-Ringo-Starr-knighthood.html

Ringo Starr, 73, is appointed a ‘Commander of France’s Order of Arts and Letters’, saying at the Monaco ceremony: ‘I’m a drummer, but I can do other things. Like painting, living, breathing.’ (Colleague John Lennon once said, unkindly: ‘He’s not even the best drummer in The Beatles.’) Will Ringo’s chevalier des arts et des lettres prompt honours bigwigs here to reconsider him for a knighthood, like his former bandmate, Sir Paul McCartney?

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karynnj

(59,501 posts)
19. One reason I have heard that he wasn't is that he opted to be a tax exile,
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:18 PM
Sep 2014

while Paul lives in England - paying the required taxes.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
32. Well, screw that noise...
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 10:31 PM
Sep 2014

...so to speak,

Ringo is one of my favorite GB citizens and deserves knighthood!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. It's certainly his right to speak out but really, I seriously doubt anyone gives credence to the
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:08 PM
Sep 2014

idea their name was used due to any ideology link.

He is such a good man, I guess he felt compelled to say something...no worries, Ringo.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. I am glad he said something about this not that he is obliged mind you
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:09 PM
Sep 2014

I just thought that it was thick with irony that the terrorists would call them the Beatles considering they were the exact opposite of the Beatles.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
6. Their captives called them that because of their London accents...
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:14 PM
Sep 2014

...which is weird given the Beatles had Scouse accents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouse

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. Thank you I didn't know what that accent was called
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:20 PM
Sep 2014

It sounded different from other Brits I have heard. But, I recon to people who don't speak a English all English accents are going to sound the same more or less.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
25. Scouse
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

People in Liverpool are said to have Scouse accents. Scouse is a soup, with VERY little meat, lots of vegetables. At least that is how my mother made it. I was born and raised in Liverpool. Ringo was born during an air raid, by the way. I know of NOBODY who grew up in Liverpool who wants any more wars. We had lots of air raids, plenty of destruction during the war. We all carried gas masks to school when in grade school. Had an air raid shelter in the backyard, like all the neighbours.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
33. THIS is the best post of all on this thread!
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 10:34 PM
Sep 2014


THANK YOU for this insight on mid-century Liverpool!!!! As a Beatles fanatic, your post is invaluable!!!!

mattclearing

(10,091 posts)
36. If you want to know more about the world the Beatles grew up in...
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 04:13 AM
Sep 2014

...you could do worse than this recent, impossibly detailed book. I'm not too far into it, but it provides a vivid depiction of postwar Liverpool.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/books/review/tune-in-the-beatles-all-these-years-volume-1-by-mark-lewisohn.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
5. There was an article about a five-year old musical prodigy here a month or so ago
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:14 PM
Sep 2014

who is a total Beatles nut; he said their music was about loving people, not hurting people, when asked what he liked about them. Very true. He met Ringo as well.

K&R

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
8. Good on him for pointing out the very IRONY of the use of their names. The exact opposite if
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:19 PM
Sep 2014

ever there was. Love me some Ringo!!

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
10. Glad he spoke out on this.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

I was pretty disgusted when I saw the reference to the Beatles. Yeah, not much he can do about it, but he didn't have to speak out either. Glad he did.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
11. I don't know... would it have been better to just ignore it?
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:23 PM
Sep 2014

Better to not let it be known it bothered him? That's what they live for, the recognition and knowing they are affecting people.

No one thinks the Beatles stood for that shit.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
13. maybe the Thatchers
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:38 PM
Sep 2014

Or some other term would be better. Maybe some of the older royals.

It is the captives who gave those names and I csn understand their side.

But the media should use something else

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
17. If the nickname weren't based on their accents, I'd favor....
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 01:53 PM
Sep 2014

calling them the "Lindsey McCainites."

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
21. I'm glad
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:25 PM
Sep 2014

one of the surviving Beatles finally spoke out. This ISIS/Beatles association bugged the hell out of me (an old Beatlemaniac). Each one of the Beatles set up foundations to benefit various humanitarian causes. That's far more than the ISIS nihilistic f**kheads will do in a million lifetimes.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
35. He needs to ring up Miss Moneypenny and drop another hint about that knighthood.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 03:09 AM
Sep 2014

I'd imagine something can be arrranged. . .




p.s. yes this is

JI7

(89,247 posts)
38. Based on the Pictures he reminds me of Ali G
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:44 AM
Sep 2014

douche looking piece of shit . SBC should do something making fun of him

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