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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:45 PM Sep 2014

American foreign policy will never change.

Ever. The imperialism and interventionism, fueled by the bottomless greed of TPTB will not change in most of our lifetimes. It will not change until the country bottoms out and can no longer afford insane miiitary budgets or blunders into WW III and the survivors learn something from the past and try a saner way.

When someone as normally sensible and grounded as Elizabeth Warren says what is discussed in another thread here it is just time to face the facts. Focus on domestic policy, where there are meaningful differences among candidates and potential candidates. The only politicians I can think of who might implement a sane foreign policy are Keith Ellison and Bernie Sanders and the chances of either one of them ever being POTUS is about the same as my being able to flap my arms and fly to the moon.

Let me know the things I have the power to change, the things I will never be able to change and the wisdom to know the difference. Foreign policy is a lost cause and it is time to admit that fact and move on.

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. If the people you have mentioned do not face facts as they are and choose to remain
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 03:55 PM
Sep 2014

Non interventionism we will face lots of problems in the future. When Sanders is speaking about Israel it seems to change his thinking. You may not like military but it is a necessary evil. Yes we should not act stupidly and this is in both directions. I do not like war not do I like being without defense.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. A defensive military is absolutely necessary.
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:04 PM
Sep 2014

What is profoundly unnecessary is the "world police" thinking and a notion that American corporations and the super-rich should run the world for their own sole benefit. And those two ideas have dominated US foreign policy for decades.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. "History supplies little more than a list of people who have helped themselves to the property of
Sat Sep 6, 2014, 04:04 PM
Sep 2014

"History supplies little more than a list of people who have helped themselves to the property of others." - Voltaire

An axiom that America has provided many examples of.

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