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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:15 AM Sep 2014

Chuck Todd/NBC shameless, manipulative, editorializing, bullshit.

During Todd's interview of Pres. Obama, NBC uses "stock" photos that directly contradict the words of the President. NBC makes sure viewers see the "corporate news view." The viewers hear one thing while seeing a conflicting image.

Todd sneers in reaction to statements, rolls his eyes at others, if that isn't editorializing, then what is it?

This of course is bullshit and my reconciliation with network news, is off.



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Chuck Todd/NBC shameless, manipulative, editorializing, bullshit. (Original Post) Ninga Sep 2014 OP
$hamele$$ indeed (I am not watching - don't have to - because I know what it mu$t be like) NRaleighLiberal Sep 2014 #1
I thought Todd interruped Pres obama a lot which riversedge Sep 2014 #2
Some white people do that to us African Americans bigdarryl Sep 2014 #8
While I agree, Toad was interupting nearly everyone on the show. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #25
I am surprised he didnt slap the BLACK man for being uppity like in Heat/Night randys1 Sep 2014 #30
Which is probab.y bad because Obama looks weak when he allows himself to be interrupted. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #36
Thanks for watching so we don't have to pleinair Sep 2014 #3
Why would he challenge the Pres? edhopper Sep 2014 #4
But it is his job to attack liberal truths...the other side of the corporate propaganda coin. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #6
It's called propaganda, it's all NBC has done for decades Corruption Inc Sep 2014 #5
Americans view propaganda as something foreigners do, never in America. Like spiced mustard. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #7
MTP is a gop "infomercial" yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #12
I am going to use this...corporate media now produces infomercials for the GOP -brilliant ! Nt Ninga Sep 2014 #15
+1 merrily Sep 2014 #56
The ONLY reason I turned MTP on was to see, first hand, the changes. None. Ninga Sep 2014 #9
I caught about 3 minutes worth of his "anal ysis" of the President's audacity to GOLF! adirondacker Sep 2014 #10
I guess the most disturbing thing to me is that a high majority of Ninga Sep 2014 #13
Yup. 6:00 news and they know everything they need to in order to make wise decisions. adirondacker Sep 2014 #24
Note.. I’m sure you meant 6:00 Local News. busterbrown Sep 2014 #49
! I stand corrected. adirondacker Sep 2014 #51
Someone should go back and play videos of Eisenhower golfing. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #39
Excellent point. I'm not a big fan of the "sport", but the conversation Todd was having with his adirondacker Sep 2014 #45
I predict that MTP will continue to drop in the ratings. Jim__ Sep 2014 #11
I just tuned in. Are they discussing football?? Glimmer of Hope Sep 2014 #14
It sounds like they should have just kept the other guy! yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #16
Or run cartoons instead. moondust Sep 2014 #17
There you go....MTP, a cartoon. Nt Ninga Sep 2014 #19
A return of Scooby Doo and Johnny Quest might peak my interest. adirondacker Sep 2014 #29
I vote for Bullwinkle and Squirrel. kairos12 Sep 2014 #48
I guess if Boris and Natasha are becoming vogue enemies again. adirondacker Sep 2014 #52
Maybe this lineup? BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #32
Yes! Let's do this one! n/t Duval Sep 2014 #40
They could replace Leno with Colbert to get the "conservative" side BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #41
Ha, I'd tune in for an hour of Bugs... SMC22307 Sep 2014 #55
Hey NBC interns, surfing the net looking for NBC discussions - take notice! People here Ninga Sep 2014 #18
NBC does not need interns to tell them what the viewer numbers tell them. Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #23
Who Sponsored This Travesty? Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #20
And the shiny Koch Industries commercial really added to the ambiance. nt tridim Sep 2014 #21
MTP is so past it's prime. They had a chance to make it good again. Starting with getting really OregonBlue Sep 2014 #22
+1. I refuse to turn it on. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #28
Professional Double Naught Disinformationist Octafish Sep 2014 #26
Jethro would ask more intelligent questions than the Chucky Doll. Ikonoklast Sep 2014 #46
Mr. Drysdale--perfect example of the 1 percent. kairos12 Sep 2014 #50
The media sucks massively. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #27
^Yes^ SoapBox Sep 2014 #35
I recorded it, because, you know, our President, cilla4progress Sep 2014 #31
GOD!!!! heaven05 Sep 2014 #33
Well said. I feel exactly the same way. nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #70
Cancel your subscriptions to news media that lie to you and trick you. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #34
What did you expect? hatrack Sep 2014 #37
I watched about Duval Sep 2014 #38
5 minutes for me. narnian60 Sep 2014 #42
I was going to post this as well! blur256 Sep 2014 #47
This will be the largest audience that Chuck Todd will have. Stellar Sep 2014 #43
Yup, its downhill from here. TeamPooka Sep 2014 #53
Hopefully the President and his staff made a note, and will no longer do anything to help out NBC. C Moon Sep 2014 #44
Can I just vent about the Sunday shows in general- marlene.elyse Sep 2014 #54
Welcome to DU, and I agree. merrily Sep 2014 #57
WHY DOES HE GO ON THERE? Why not Rachel instead? Or Thom Hartmann? Or TYT. He grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #58
Not "sad" for POTUS. Chucky looks like the fool he is. CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #63
It's sad because he does the bidding of the neo-cons, and they make fun of him publicly. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #64
Todd had a choice to make DFW Sep 2014 #59
Does anyone remember C.Todd when he was a regular on C-SPAN? Nictuku Sep 2014 #60
Yes. Chuck Todd was the one who was into reality on c-span and now.. he's just another Cha Sep 2014 #61
But, there was this.. Chuck Todd's "Gotcha" FAIL.. Cha Sep 2014 #62
Thx Cha.... This and more. Problem with corporate "journalists" is that they can't listen Ninga Sep 2014 #65
You're spot on Ninga madokie Sep 2014 #66
Did we expect anything different that this? Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #67
Not surprising but look who the sponsors are for all of the Sunday Morning Shows WI_DEM Sep 2014 #68
At least they didn't choose Luke, however.... mimi85 Sep 2014 #69

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
2. I thought Todd interruped Pres obama a lot which
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:19 AM
Sep 2014

way annoying to say the least. I wanted Obama to say--LET ME FINISH--but Obama was too polite--which is probably good. Setting an example.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
30. I am surprised he didnt slap the BLACK man for being uppity like in Heat/Night
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:28 PM
Sep 2014

But to be fair I didnt even see it, but interrupting the president is a new thing, you see, now that the prez is BLACK

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
36. Which is probab.y bad because Obama looks weak when he allows himself to be interrupted.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:45 PM
Sep 2014

Obama is the president. He is the one who interrupts. Others should not interrupt him.

That is because, as president, Obama has little time to speak to us. The interviewer should understand that the public is interested in hearing what the President has to say, not to what the interviewer wants to say.

Todd is a disrespectful nobody.

pleinair

(171 posts)
3. Thanks for watching so we don't have to
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:20 AM
Sep 2014

thanks to all for witnessing the spectacle and reporting on it--you perform a public service.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
4. Why would he challenge the Pres?
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

after all:

TPM: "Chuck Todd: It's Not Media's Job To Correct GOP's Falsehoods"

Could Chucky have a double standard?

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
5. It's called propaganda, it's all NBC has done for decades
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

Corporate and government propaganda is all they sell, other than poorly written sitcoms.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
12. MTP is a gop "infomercial"
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

While the term "infomercial" was originally applied only to television advertising, it is now sometimes used to refer to any presentation (often on video) which presents a significant amount of information in an actual, or perceived, attempt to promote a point of view. When used this way, the term may be meant to carry an implication that the party making the communication is exaggerating truths or hiding important facts

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
9. The ONLY reason I turned MTP on was to see, first hand, the changes. None.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:33 AM
Sep 2014

And, more importantly, MTP is a dinosaur -

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
10. I caught about 3 minutes worth of his "anal ysis" of the President's audacity to GOLF!
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

What a fucking tool Todd is for bullshit distractions and manipulation.
Two thumbs down for Meat Press.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
13. I guess the most disturbing thing to me is that a high majority of
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:42 AM
Sep 2014

households in this country only get their news from network TV. Add this to the fact that these same households do NOT read newspapers, journals, listen to NPR, the BBC, Amy Goodman, etc etc etc etc.... That I call, the dumbing down of America.

That is why negative ads work.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
24. Yup. 6:00 news and they know everything they need to in order to make wise decisions.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:11 PM
Sep 2014

Critical thinking should be a mandatory high school class taught by those that know how to perform it.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. Someone should go back and play videos of Eisenhower golfing.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:50 PM
Sep 2014

Eisenhower was the golfing president. Only on the golf field can a person have a truly confidential conversation sans listening devices. And only if both or all golfers want the confidentiality. The president needs confidentiality. When Bush golfed, I got scared. What is he cooking up that he does not want us to know about? But when Obama golfs, I feel secure because I know he is outsmarting the many traitors around him. Maybe some of those guys feed information to the likes of NBC -- the traitors I mean.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
45. Excellent point. I'm not a big fan of the "sport", but the conversation Todd was having with his
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

shills was just blatant bullshit drawing out and scrutinizing every word in the reply that Obama made, like it was some major disconnect with society that the president has. The irony of the disconnect lies at their priorities of what is important to the people of this country.

Yeah, Bush on the course

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
11. I predict that MTP will continue to drop in the ratings.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:35 AM
Sep 2014

He had a presidential interview for his opening show and he still managed to make it boring. What's it going to be like when he doesn't have an interview with Obama?

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
29. A return of Scooby Doo and Johnny Quest might peak my interest.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:28 PM
Sep 2014

They could write the Scooby team to investigate corrupt politicians and the fraudulent businesses they represent.
Johnny could go on a quest to reveal global climate change and the culprits behind it.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
55. Ha, I'd tune in for an hour of Bugs...
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 02:49 PM
Sep 2014

and all the other Looney Tuners.

Haven't watched MTP since probably 2008 or so, and it doesn't look as if that's going to change anytime soon.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
18. Hey NBC interns, surfing the net looking for NBC discussions - take notice! People here
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:49 AM
Sep 2014

are a small reflection of the greater tv watching community and Chuck Todd is not the answer.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. NBC does not need interns to tell them what the viewer numbers tell them.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:04 PM
Sep 2014

MTP should get a special Emmy for stealth, it is not easy to both be on network TV and be almost entirely unseen by human eyes at the same time.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
22. MTP is so past it's prime. They had a chance to make it good again. Starting with getting really
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:04 PM
Sep 2014

intelligent people to have really intelligent discussions. But in fact, they went the opposite direction. They got Chuck Todd who is a TV news insider. They also got Scarborough. They also got the guy who used to produce Chris Mathews show. Talk about insiders. It's not even Washington insiders, which is bad enough, it's NBC Washington Political insiders. I can't imagine a bunch more out of touch. None of them has any clue what is going on outside of their tiny little sphere.

Tim Russert was a Republican but he at least attempted to get people to talk about real issues. David Gregory is a Republican but he was so inept at the job that he just made the GOP talking points look stupid. Chuck Todd is an out of touch know it all. He will never learn anything new because he thinks he has all the answers.

Won't waste my time.

cilla4progress

(24,732 posts)
31. I recorded it, because, you know, our President,
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:31 PM
Sep 2014

but I didn't have any high hopes. I don't know why Chuck Todd is so highly touted. He's arrogant and smug, a know-it-all, and not at all interesting or unique in any way, and doesn't strike me as particularly bright. Must have attained his position the old-fashioned way - sucking up to the powers that be.

The only folks I can think of who would be any good at this are on public TV or radio. Tom Ashbrook? Diane Rehm?

Not sure if I'll bother watching it.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
33. GOD!!!!
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:40 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:32 PM - Edit history (1)

I wish my POTUS would slap one of these uppity fucks DOWN!!!!!! Who do these goddamn people think they are? Such disrespect only because our POTUS is black. The way Toad is, is what white privilege is about. Never have I, in my 52 years of being interested in politics, seen such disrespect to a POTUS. THIS is why those fucks in blue feel like that can kill and torture black people in the streets. This is why the bundyshit crawled out from under their rocks and from the cesspools of amerikkka's racist swamps. I am so sick of this white supremacy/privilege bullshit..... Fuck you TOAD!!!!!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
34. Cancel your subscriptions to news media that lie to you and trick you.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:41 PM
Sep 2014

There are alternatives. TV is a waste of time. It is all corporate propaganda. That is all it is. Sorry to be a curmudgeon. But the TV is there to brainwash you. It has no other purpose.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
38. I watched about
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 12:47 PM
Sep 2014

10 minutes and turned it off! Todd makes me so angry, and I really want to keep my TV. Thanks for the post, Ninga!

narnian60

(3,510 posts)
42. 5 minutes for me.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:11 PM
Sep 2014

The intro about no strategy, golfing, and how Democrats are trying to distance themselves from the President made me run screaming from the room. My husband watched the whole interview, but he has a cast iron stomach.

blur256

(979 posts)
47. I was going to post this as well!
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:34 PM
Sep 2014

I never watch Sunday news shows because they make my blood boil, but it happened to be on when they started going into the intro. What a bunch of shit. I started shouting at the tv "WTF, really?" and that's when my partner made me shut it off. No strategy? Are you fucking kidding me? Golf AGAIN?! I knew when I heard that Chucky was taking over that it was going to be a right wing rag, but come on. That's just stupidity at it's worst.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
43. This will be the largest audience that Chuck Todd will have.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:14 PM
Sep 2014

After this airing, it will drop with a quickness. Nothing has changed on MtP.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
44. Hopefully the President and his staff made a note, and will no longer do anything to help out NBC.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:20 PM
Sep 2014

marlene.elyse

(20 posts)
54. Can I just vent about the Sunday shows in general-
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 02:42 PM
Sep 2014

The last time I watched David Gregory said that our entitlements were 'cannibalizing' our economy and then he basically asked his guest to agree with him. This is today's journalism?

Lindsey Graham and John McCain should save themselves the trip and prerecord their responses because they are the same every week. .....feckless....the President is weak....cut spending...Bengazi...etc. Sunday is the weekly grand finale of current propaganda.

American journalism used to interview MLK Jr and Nelson Mandela. Murrow called out McCarthy. Our true journalists today are putting their lives in extreme danger while NBC puts on whatever creates profit. Even PBS is corporate. Damn it.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
58. WHY DOES HE GO ON THERE? Why not Rachel instead? Or Thom Hartmann? Or TYT. He
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 04:26 PM
Sep 2014

legitimizes them by his actions, but then again, he's doing their bidding while they laugh at him.

Sad, really.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
63. Not "sad" for POTUS. Chucky looks like the fool he is.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:24 PM
Sep 2014

And POTUS gets face time to answer stupid questions in simple terms for the uninformed who fall for the MSM crap.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
59. Todd had a choice to make
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 04:32 PM
Sep 2014

He could have returned MTP to a ghost of something worthy of its name.

Instead, he chose to continue with "Meet The Republicans," and we already know them.

So does Obama. He gave them their chance. Todd pissed it away. Obama won't be back.

Nictuku

(3,613 posts)
60. Does anyone remember C.Todd when he was a regular on C-SPAN?
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 05:29 PM
Sep 2014

This is way back when... when I had a good feeling about C-SPAN, feeling it was a breath of fresh air to see moderators without opinions. (I discovered C-SPAN shortly after 9/11 when the drums of war were pounding and giving me a headache in my eye -- I found "Washington Journal" in the mornings and enjoyed the moderators who did not give their own personal opinions while still getting headline news from newspapers across the country).

That was the first time I saw C.Todd, where he gave a daily report on congressional news.

Back then, when he was on C-SPAN, I don't recall being able to determine his personal politics. And when I saw that he was moving to network TV, I was 'Good for him!" and had high hopes that network TV was getting a non-biased voice.

Boy was I wrong!

Now it is more than obvious what his personal politics are, and on top of it, I really dislike his goatee.

Cha

(297,224 posts)
61. Yes. Chuck Todd was the one who was into reality on c-span and now.. he's just another
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:02 PM
Sep 2014

corporatemediawhore tool.

Cha

(297,224 posts)
62. But, there was this.. Chuck Todd's "Gotcha" FAIL..
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:04 PM
Sep 2014
Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

Chuck Todd's face when he said "You've not said the word 'Syria'" after Obama said it 4 times http://lgf.bz/1qtlRhQ pic.twitter.com/FmNOX5rTYk

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@Green_Footballs What's most hilarious about Chuckles' failed gotcha is the interview was RECORDED & he didn't edit his FAIL! cc @PressSec
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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
65. Thx Cha.... This and more. Problem with corporate "journalists" is that they can't listen
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 08:51 AM
Sep 2014

and think at the same time......

So sad.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
68. Not surprising but look who the sponsors are for all of the Sunday Morning Shows
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:24 AM
Sep 2014

big corporations. I gave up on Sunday Morning News TV long ago.

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