Basically, they hate Obama more than they love America...

[MrScorpio]

[spanone]

1. k&r...

[KT2000]

4. that's what I don't get

It seems that whenever we get a Democratic president, the Democrats never stand up for him. Obama, just like Carter is standing pretty much alone against a barrage of hate.

The Rs speak with one voice (through many media) - coordinated talking points and tons of money to alter public opinion, often with lies. What do Democratic politicians or people who call themselves Democrats do about it? Nothing.
The Rs are getting so ridiculous it would be like shooting fish in a barrel to set the record straight but they don't.

[Louisiana1976]

29. Right on!

[pansypoo53219]

39. the media refuses to reward them. they are feeding into the destroy obama wing

liberal media my ass.

[ieoeja]

42. "Every time I mention White people and the fucking problems they cause I get attacked, posts hidden"

So the RWers that have taken over this site since Discussionist invited them prove Randy's point by ... hiding his post.


Note: I only post as reply to you because I can not reply to his oh-so-ironic hidden post.

[MaggieD]

5. You should have been here....

When they hated LGBT people.

[Quackers]

16. Broad brush much?

FYI: ALL of the below statements are racist.

Every time I mention White people and the fucking problems they cause I get attacked, posts hidden.

Every time I mention Black people and the fucking problems they cause I get attacked, posts hidden.

Every time I mention Asian people and the fucking problems they cause I get attacked, posts hidden.

Every time I mention Indian people and the fucking problems they cause I get attacked, posts hidden.

[nomorenomore08]

18. I'm pretty sure randys1 is a white guy. I am too, and I largely agree with his opinions.

It's nothing to do with "self-loathing" and everything to do with acknowledging the collective damage done by racist whites.

[Quackers]

22. It doesn't matter if Randys1 is white.

He made a blanketed racist statement and the jury seemed to agree.

[nomorenomore08]

25. It's not that every individual white person is evil or bigoted. But white people as a whole

are primarily responsible for creating and maintaining this country's deeply racist social and political system(s).

[Louisiana1976]

30. It's white privilege.

[nomorenomore08]

38. That's another (equally valid) way to put it, yes. n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. "Primarily responsible"??? ... Try WHOLLY responsible. eom.

[nomorenomore08]

53. Pretty much, yeah. I guess I was trying to be diplomatic. But you are correct. n/t

[MrScorpio]

28. Randys1 is probably a white guy and you're saying that his statement is "racist?"

But isn't he really speaking out against white supremacy?

[MaggieD]

3. That is truly it - in a nutshell

[IrishAyes]

6. 'They' don't love America at all. Not in the least.

Proof, America consists of other people too, and they do everything possible to lay economic and social slavery on us. We don't feel the 'love'.

[calimary]

7. Well, perhaps it would be more precise if the word "love" in there

were to be written exactly that way. In quotes.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

8. You better believe it!

[yuiyoshida]

9. Totally agree Mr. Scorpio ..

K&R

[kairos12]

10. Never mind Shrub being asleep at the switch one month before 9/11.

[Louisiana1976]

32. Exactly. And letting New Orleans drown.

[kairos12]

35. 9/11, Katrina, and the Economy. Shrub is the trifecta of disaster.

He had the reverse Midas touch--everything he touched turned to a bag of crap--left for the rest of us.

[nxylas]

11. Twice as much?

Closer to three times as much, by my calculations.

[stage left]

12. I would say they hate Obama

Even more than they hate the rest of us; that is those of us not members of the one percent.

[czarjak]

13. not to mention...

Jesus. New Testament Christians voting for the Mormon because they hated the Black guy. Makes perfect sense.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. That's it in a nutshell

Willing to cut off their own noses to spite their face.

[Laelth]

15. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[Demeter]

17. MrScorpio, these people don't love America!

If we were a nation full of people who loved it, we wouldn't have 90% of the problems we have.

What we have are people who love putting down others, stealing everything from the less powerful, emulating the more powerful, and violence.

There is no demonstrable love of America, at home or abroad.

It was the love that foreigners had for America that kept America alive through most of the 20th century. Now even that idealism has been killed by the PNACers at the State Dept, the Chicago school of economics, the NSA, CIA, FBI and all the alphabet agencies, and numerous wars for corporate interests that overthrew other people's attempts to build their own nations into something like what was good in ours.

No, it's only FDR Democrats who give a care, and we are few and far between: the first generation is dying off, the later generations are getting sidetracked and defeated by this very corrupt culture.

[Louisiana1976]

33. Excellent points.

[blkmusclmachine]

19. Don't kid yourselves. Republicans have NEVER loved America.

Secede, already!

[IrishAyes]

27. Us or them?

Much as I'd like to drop-kick them off the edge of the earth, the sad fact remains that we can't break up the country w/o creating even greater problems. The south needs us more than we need them, but we still need them. Or their territory anyway. I hope you and I (and many others) live to see more of those old bastards just die out and solve the problem for us. SOME of their kids aren't quite as bad.

[treestar]

20. I agree with that

I challenged some conservatives to condemn Rand Paul for talking bad about the US on foreign soil. They could not stick to their principles. I admitted I had to let Rand Paul go, as I had for the Dixie Chick. So I was being consistent. They still would not bring themselves to condemn Paul - and they should have, if talking bad about their President while on foreign soil was really a problem for them.

Republicans have no principles. Whatever they claim are their principles are just excuses. They will change them when the wind blows another way.

[Dont call me Shirley]

36. Dixie Chicks have true integrity, whereas the Paul duo have none.

[LiberalArkie]

21. Of course he is a black man. Can you imagine how bad it would be if our president

was a woman?

[Louisiana1976]

34. Yeah--just wait until Hillary's president.

[Dont call me Shirley]

37. Sexism (the "original sin") trumps racism

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. In the same way ...

Ovarian Cancer trumps Pancreatic Cancer.

[Dont call me Shirley]

49. Just sayin, according to the book of Genesis, women are responsible for original sin

Sexism started first. Neither sexism nor racism are worse than another. Men of all races and religions find it much more "socially acceptable" to attack and degrade women. Women have had the crappy end of the male-female deal for a long long long long time.

You know of the concept of white privilege I would assume. There is an older concept called male privilege. Not all men abuse and debase women, but i would stretch it to say the majority do.

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. Oh ...

I absolutely agree ... though both are toxic.

[Dont call me Shirley]

51. The main thing is to awaken people about their underlying unconscious behaviors.

Then they can begin to make conscious changes.

Remember: to know thyself is divine.

Awareness of thoughts feelings and actions at all times is sorely needed by all.

This is the way we change the world.

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. Agreed. eom.

[Dirty Socialist]

23. And They Hate Lots of Americans

Calling them lazy and unhealthy.

[Jamaal510]

24. ..."But Bush took twice as much time off".

Try telling that to rank-and-file wingnuts. It's incredible how readily they accept some of these easily-debunked talking points from FOX.

[rock]

26. Let me count the ways they love America

One ... er, uh, could someone get me started?

[Cha]

31. Oh they hate President Obama with a burning white hot intensity.. but, I don't think

they ever had any real love for America.. only what it can take from her.

thanks MrScorpio

[Raine1967]

40. A sad Kick and recommend given. :(

[raouldukelives]

41. Yep, like the people who invest in Wall St.

Financially supporting and benefiting from the destruction of our country, our citizens and our natural environment. No friends to democracy, freedom, liberty and justice are they.
Make no mistake. They love money more than America.
The people funding the attacks against everything liberals stand for and try to stand up against are aided & abetted by average investors who can't be bothered to live a life that makes things better. Instead choosing, even in the face of knowledge that they are undeniably making things worse for all living things, to stay the course.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. Looks like Rove in the window....

The genius that railed about finding a bug that he had just switched on prior to the press conference.

[olegramps]

46. My parents were from the South and this is what my mother said:

"You don't think White People aren't prejudiced. Just think about this: If you relate a story about people and if its a about White folk they never mention that they are white, but if its about a Black person it is a predominate fact in the narrative, especially if it is derogatory."

[FiveGoodMen]

47. Depends who 'THEY' refers to

If 'THEY' are the average Southern Baptist under the influence of the average Southern Baptist preacher, then yes they hate Obama ... and they think 'THEY' are America.

If 'THEY' means the traitors giving the same talking points to Fox & Rush & Reverend-whoever, then THEY don't care about Obama at all, but they care about money, power, control and they know the best way to achieve their goals is to fire up the divisions within society so that there's no organized push-back when they buy our government out from under us.

All I'm saying is:

GOP base: Ignorant, spiteful, bigoted morons...

GOP leadership: Not stupid. Just pure evil.

[MynameisBlarney]

48. What a pile o' malarkey!

Like they actually love this country even a little bit.