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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:25 PM Sep 2014

McDonnell to Lose Pension

Because of Law He Signed


http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2014/09/mcdonnell-lose-pension-law-signed-video/

This Thursday, in the latest development in the recent wave of rampant Republican corruption, former Virginia Governor, Republican Bob McDonnell and his wife Maureen were convicted on multiple counts of felony corruption, 11 for him and 9 for her, stemming from gifts, vacations and loans received totaling over $177,000 in return for political favors. Now the speculation turns to the sentences they will receive.

In addition to losing rights to own or carry firearms, convictions for felonies can bring sentences of up to 20 years in prison each, enough to keep the disgraced former governor in prison for more than 200 years, but with no prior convictions, the nonviolent nature of the crimes, Former US Attorney Chuck James said it is also possible that the couple could receive no jail time at all, but that is highly unlikely. The bureau of Prisons will assess the pair and make recommendations for sentencing scheduled for January 6, 2015. Both the former Governor and his wife are expected to appeal.

That’s justice, now for the poetry. While he was in office, McDonnell signed into law, House Bill 2095:

Virginia Retirement System; loss of benefits for certain felony convictions. Provides that a member of any of the retirement programs administered by the Virginia Retirement System forfeits his retirement benefits if it is determined that he has been convicted of a felony that arose out of misconduct in any position covered under the retirement programs administered by the Virginia Retirement System.

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McDonnell to Lose Pension (Original Post) avebury Sep 2014 OP
Poetic. n/t IllinoisBirdWatcher Sep 2014 #1
It says "certain". Why do I think he will weasel out of losing his? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #27
I find Schadenfreude deplorable, Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #2
To the extent the McDonnells wrought this themselves, though, DirkGently Sep 2014 #3
If there were no joy in it, Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #8
The McDonalds only have themselves to blame for avebury Sep 2014 #13
Schadenfreude... it's what's for dinner. And I'll have seconds, thanks. nt Bigmack Sep 2014 #29
Nur für Speisen, Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #31
Did Chuck discuss this with anyone this a.m. on MTP?..Just curious..n/t monmouth3 Sep 2014 #4
Didn't watch much of it GP6971 Sep 2014 #14
I bet he will now attempt to fight his own ridiculous law. nt Live and Learn Sep 2014 #5
Sweet justice Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #11
His food, shelter, and clothing will be provided by the taxpayers for a couple years Doctor_J Sep 2014 #6
Very good! I see no reason to imprison handmade34 Sep 2014 #7
Sorry, I am willing to feed and clothe these two scumbags for a few years. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #10
agree handmade34 Sep 2014 #12
Me too. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #15
It might actually bring them humility. Ilsa Sep 2014 #22
Karma.... Historic NY Sep 2014 #9
Maybe the Virginia assembly needs to rethink the laws they are passing. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #16
aawwww...... madamesilverspurs Sep 2014 #17
but then im reminded of tom delay leftyohiolib Sep 2014 #18
It's great that he's setting an example here MrScorpio Sep 2014 #19
If they don't put them in jail, Mr.Bill Sep 2014 #20
I'll settle for 200 years each and no pension! santamargarita Sep 2014 #21
One gets so few opportunities to... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #23
Hoisted by his own pensiontard. kairos12 Sep 2014 #24
i wonder how that is legal if you pay in. some of that should be a matching thing with va. roguevalley Sep 2014 #25
I agree and shouldn't the same apply to anyone Live and Learn Sep 2014 #34
Well ain't that a shame GP6971 Sep 2014 #26
And they won't be able to vote in the next election(s) bluestateguy Sep 2014 #28
. corkhead Sep 2014 #30
I should hope so! and, yes, sweet poetic justice that he signed it.. thinking he'd never get caught Cha Sep 2014 #32
Did old boy cut off his nose madashelltoo Sep 2014 #33
Sweet! abakan Sep 2014 #35
BWAHAHA! MineralMan Sep 2014 #36
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! rpannier Sep 2014 #37

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
3. To the extent the McDonnells wrought this themselves, though,
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:38 PM
Sep 2014

Isn't more just irony? Hypocrisy rewarded? Or justice?

And it just kind of reinforces the idea that people who are extraordinarily judgmental of others (like "cohabiters, fornicators, and homosexuals&quot are often lacking in the most basic scruples themselves.

Petty people. Nailed for petty corruption.

No joy in it, but it does seem right somehow.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
13. The McDonalds only have themselves to blame for
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:07 PM
Sep 2014

their path to prison. And Bob McDonald's arrogance in not accepting the plea agreement to one felony count (which would have kept his wife from being prosecuted) and instead throwing his wife to the wolves is deplorable to say the least. You reap what you sow. They won't get any sympathy here.

GP6971

(31,146 posts)
14. Didn't watch much of it
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:11 PM
Sep 2014

but probably. Would a republican hack air the republican's dirty laundry? Probably not

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. His food, shelter, and clothing will be provided by the taxpayers for a couple years
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:49 PM
Sep 2014

not to the level he's used to, of course, but still...

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
7. Very good! I see no reason to imprison
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:50 PM
Sep 2014

either Bob McDonnell or his wife... seems to me the loss of pension and the disgrace is enough... along with the inability to run for office again or practice law...


now to get all the other non-violent offenders OUT of our jails and prisons... we were supposed to be turning our jails into "Corrections" but that doesn't exist (as a rule)... punishment doesn't work and it just costs the taxpayers lots of money

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
10. Sorry, I am willing to feed and clothe these two scumbags for a few years.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:56 PM
Sep 2014

There is no worse nonviolent crime than public corruption. IMO

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
12. agree
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

"no worse nonviolent crime than public corruption"

...I have worked in "corrections" and I am no fan of our obsession with incarcerating every Tom, Dick and Harry that breaks a law...

it is a broken system at best and a real shame for our Country... there are better ways but that deserves a much bigger discussion

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
15. Me too.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:13 PM
Sep 2014

They need to experience prison first hand. At least for a while. Then the humiliation for life.

That will learn 'em.

Public corruption has this nation on the ropes.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
22. It might actually bring them humility.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:51 PM
Sep 2014

Sometimes that's what it takes for a person learn to behave himself/herself. And they both might find that other people have lived just fine without the expensive watches, gowns, and super - expensive weddings.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Maybe the Virginia assembly needs to rethink the laws they are passing.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:17 PM
Sep 2014

The very arrogant of McDonald to sign laws with evidence of his own wrong doing makes it appear to me he thinks he can get away with any crime.

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
21. I'll settle for 200 years each and no pension!
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:54 PM
Sep 2014

We are way overdue when it comes to locking up political criminals! Although, he will never see a day in jail. Fox News will hire him anyway.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
23. One gets so few opportunities to...
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:52 PM
Sep 2014

...use the delightful phrase, "Hoist on his own petard." I will accept this chance with great delight.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
25. i wonder how that is legal if you pay in. some of that should be a matching thing with va.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 09:24 PM
Sep 2014

If he wrote a law making people give up their contribution as well then he's dumber than I thought he was.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
34. I agree and shouldn't the same apply to anyone
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:26 AM
Sep 2014

that gets matching 401k monies in public or private companies have to give up the match? It seems a bit unfair (and unconstitutional) to treat public employees differently.

He may be the first to contest the new law.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
32. I should hope so! and, yes, sweet poetic justice that he signed it.. thinking he'd never get caught
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:32 PM
Sep 2014

no doubt.

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