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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:18 PM Dec 2011

Anonymous leaks personal information of Senators who voted for the Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)

Anonymous aims to make US Senators accountable for their votes
Posted on 20 December 2011.

A group of Anonymous-affiliated hackers has made public a considerable amount of detailed personal information of the majority of the 86 US Senators that voted for the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

The Pastebin entry includes information such as dates of birth, spouse and children names, addresses, phone numbers, Twitter accounts, memberships in various committees, information about education, profession and religion, their staff, previous votes on a number of issues, their campaign contributors, suites filed against them, and more.

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According to Softpedia, some US citizens have already seized on the information offered and have been sending accusations of treason to a number of the Senators who voted Yea.

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"This is an open letter to the US leaders," wrote the hackers. "We've been watching you systematically destroy the rights of your own people, one law at a time. No longer shall we stand by and watch you enslave our fellow citizens. You have continued down this path of treason by creating acts such as the National Defense Authorization Act, Stop Online Piracy Act, Protect IP Act, and more. You've tried to conceal the true purpose of these bills, and pass them without the consent of the American people."

Read more: http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=12125

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Anonymous leaks personal information of Senators who voted for the Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 OP
The cyber war wears on SpiralHawk Dec 2011 #1
Oooh! STUNG!!!!! Go, anonymous!! K&R! Zalatix Dec 2011 #2
Our overlords and their Congress are becoming more blatant. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
Whoa graywarrior Dec 2011 #4
It lists Franken, I thought he voted against it...... Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #5
He voted against the final bill but voted for certain amendments to it. joshcryer Dec 2011 #12
Interesting Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 #23
he voted for it before he voted against it. provis99 Dec 2011 #24
And I thought he was voting for it because of the veto threat... joshcryer Dec 2011 #26
Oops SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #6
publishing "spouses and children's names" and personal info is too much zazen Dec 2011 #7
Are the names of Senators' spouses and children state secrets? tledford Dec 2011 #8
but why would they be re-published, if not to send a message zazen Dec 2011 #9
You could be correct Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #10
they _are_ intrusive, but "everything" doesn't include other people zazen Dec 2011 #13
What would you suggest be done?? Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #14
but spouses and children aren't the indirect objects of "their" personal life zazen Dec 2011 #16
Here is my take Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #18
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #21
Naming women and children is never acceptable even if it is public information. Still these Senators think Dec 2011 #15
I'm pretty sure spouses' and children's name are PUBLIC INFORMATION, kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #19
These aren't opponents, they are enemies and merciless ones at that. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #25
Looks more like a google search and not a hack Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #11
there's a saying: 'No Justice, No Peace'. i agree anon shouldn't involve innocent civilians. n/t marasinghe Dec 2011 #17
I'm not at all on board with a small group of people making our elected representatives "pay" cherokeeprogressive Dec 2011 #20
Dems are included in this justiceischeap Dec 2011 #28
I agree Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 #29
Daresay, that's a mild response. (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #22
k&r for right action. Keep the heat on! n/t Laelth Dec 2011 #27
K&R! katty Dec 2011 #30
This is a heinous act-it is so totally un-American, un-Constituitional - makes the head spin katty Dec 2011 #31

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
5. It lists Franken, I thought he voted against it......
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:33 PM
Dec 2011

Added: I double checked and he did vote against it

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
12. He voted against the final bill but voted for certain amendments to it.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:06 PM
Dec 2011

So maybe that's the reason for the mixup.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
24. he voted for it before he voted against it.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:16 AM
Dec 2011

He voted for the Senate version of the bill, and voted against the final conference version, which had no relevant changes.

Franken pissed me off with his cynical politicking on this issue.

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
26. And I thought he was voting for it because of the veto threat...
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:49 AM
Dec 2011

...and I thought it was all a smart political move. Made me look like an idiot.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
6. Oops
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:34 PM
Dec 2011
I guess these congresscritters think that this NDAA will NEVER affect them?


They are immune from their actions against the rest of us FOR ALL TIME?

I am sure that the repugs think that is true.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
7. publishing "spouses and children's names" and personal info is too much
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:51 PM
Dec 2011

I'm all for aggressively calling people out.

Alan Grayson provides a marvelous example of brutal truth-telling and confrontation, and he doesn't need the names and personal information of his opponents' spouses and children to do it.

Or am I missing something? This just seems a little much.

tledford

(917 posts)
8. Are the names of Senators' spouses and children state secrets?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:54 PM
Dec 2011

Even when they're published in newspapers and magazines?

zazen

(2,978 posts)
9. but why would they be re-published, if not to send a message
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:58 PM
Dec 2011

No, someone can find them out.

See, I like the idea of making a list of Wall Street offenders a lot more accessible to hundreds of thousands of people, so we can call and write them. I'm all for that (if it doesn't move into criminal territory, of course.) And perhaps they aren't state secrets. But having them all in one place for easy access would make it a lot easier for us to get their attention.

But spouses and children of these people, Wall Street or elected officials? I think republishing that info, esp anything more personal about them than their names, hurts our cause.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
10. You could be correct
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:58 PM
Dec 2011

but on the other hand they have no problem telling you which people you can love, which sexual positions you are allowed. So where does the intrusion into your personal life end??

Don't you have the right to know everything you want about the people you employ??

zazen

(2,978 posts)
13. they _are_ intrusive, but "everything" doesn't include other people
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:09 PM
Dec 2011

I agree that the behavior of a majority of right-wingers is odious. But their spouses and children are separate people, not objects of their actions. Even if this information could be found out in the public domain, to put it all in one place sends a message that they are "fair game." That may not be what this group intended, but it's a reasonable consequence.

Again, I think we can be very creative and aggressive (within the bounds of the law) in opposing people without resorting to this.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
14. What would you suggest be done??
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:20 PM
Dec 2011

My school of thought is that if someone wants to pry into my personal life and tell me how to live it gives me the right to pry into theirs'. If they happen to find this intrusive then perhaps they will rethink their position.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
16. but spouses and children aren't the indirect objects of "their" personal life
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:30 PM
Dec 2011

Personal lives refer to actions, things that can be owned by the person who's executing them. Spouses and children aren't actions--they're other people.

I don't have anything specific at the moment, except that of course, the bravery of the Occupy movements is an example, as is the moral and in-your-face equivalent of Alan Grayson reading out the names in session, district by district, of the people who died as a result of lack of health insurance. They're dead, so nobody's going to harass them based on their names being read out, and it was a deliberate calling out of the monsters who were happy to let them die and decrease the surplus population. Of course, they invested millions to get him voted out for precisely that behavior, but it's that sort of calling out I'm talking about.

If spouses are lobbyists in the industry being questioned, then maybe that can be mentioned.

Keep kids out of it, unless they're over 30 and lobbying in the same industry too.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
18. Here is my take
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:46 PM
Dec 2011

Politicians want a job, they ask for votes, you vote for them or not, the one elected is your employee.
A lot of politicians want to pass laws that have a direst on your personal life. Religion, wages, sex come to mind.
Religion and sex are very personal. How these laws effect you also has an effect on the people around you.
Tell me why the same effect should not apply to politicians??

My personal belief is that children should be off limits. But when it comes to laws that effect children that I know then it becomes a different story. I have found that people that want to tell others how to live the only way to wake them up is to treat them the same way they treat you. How do you stop a bully?? And that is what a lot of these politicians are today. Deciding who can get married, what god you believe in. I am getting fed up with it. It is time for government to back off.

Politicians have no problem bringing their families into the political races to show how much of a family man or woman they are, are christian they are, are much they value the family but have no trouble telling you that you do not share these values.

I do not know the answer.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
15. Naming women and children is never acceptable even if it is public information. Still these Senators
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:26 PM
Dec 2011

need to be held accountable for having the audacity to propose subjugating the constitution and allowing US citizens to be held indefinitely without a trial. I consider this a treasonous act. These Senators need to be run out of office.

We should have zero tolerance for politicians that willingly attack the freedom of the American people.

This is NOT North Korea!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
19. I'm pretty sure spouses' and children's name are PUBLIC INFORMATION,
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:07 PM
Dec 2011

and readily available on Congressmembers' websites, lol.

Ohio Joe

(21,898 posts)
11. Looks more like a google search and not a hack
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:05 PM
Dec 2011

"The hackers don't claim to have stolen the information following a breach, and the document seems to have been compiled from information collected from a variety of sources accessible to the public."

It looks like they got Franken wrong... I wonder how many others are wrong. Putting out bad info from a google search is bad enough but including the kids is just plain shitty.

marasinghe

(1,253 posts)
17. there's a saying: 'No Justice, No Peace'. i agree anon shouldn't involve innocent civilians. n/t
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:33 PM
Dec 2011
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
20. I'm not at all on board with a small group of people making our elected representatives "pay"
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:15 PM
Dec 2011

for the way they vote. God forbid a conservative group of script-kiddies did the same thing. We'd be fucking HOWLING if every Dem in Congress had his or her most sensitive information and that of their relatives and their staff members and THEIR relatives laid out for the world to see as a kind of "arm-twisting".

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
28. Dems are included in this
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 10:37 AM
Dec 2011

I think our elected representatives should pay for their actions but not in the way you're implying. They should not get reelected, Dem or Repub, if they act against America's best interests. And anyone, IMO, that voted for NDAA should not be reelected.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
29. I agree
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 02:01 PM
Dec 2011

People who voted for the NDAA are trying to strip civil liberties from the American people and they should be punished.

katty

(11,033 posts)
31. This is a heinous act-it is so totally un-American, un-Constituitional - makes the head spin
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 06:53 PM
Dec 2011

only a completely poisoned body politic could come up with this.

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