What would you do if you saw a middle eastern person

[sawdust]

Last edited Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:16 AM - Edit history (1)

at the corner store in your neighborhood wearing a turban and a beard and a thawb (dress) with an isis symbol on it?
Seriously..

[itsrobert]

1. Why do you ask?

Seriously.

[sawdust]

5. saw a fb post

Just saw a post on fb with that exact thing in Houston Tx.

[NYC_SKP]

7. There's a set of images going viral, Isis Symbol in Houston Deli.

http://www.ktrh.com/onair/matt-patrick-43500/poll-is-this-an-isis-symbol-on-this-muslim-guy-in-a-deli-in-spring-branch-you-decide-12735478/

[BainsBane]

12. What you want to bet it is nothing of the sort?

[NYC_SKP]

20. No bet, given the circles and sites that are promoting it.

Just another one of those "Internet thingies".

And we'll probably hear about it for weeks to come.

[sawdust]

14. yes this is it

Thats the picture. I really dont know what you call the thing on their head.
Point is, do we allow this here?

[Beaverhausen]

24. Do we allow what?

Do you want this person arrested for something?

[Quayblue]

27. Allow what??

[sawdust]

29. actually Its no worse than a swasticka

I guess

[Quayblue]

34. What?! That's quite a leap you made there.

[Agschmid]

56. Meh not really says Goodwin's Law.

[Quayblue]

71. nothing like a nazi comparison to drive home the argument.

[MADem]

94. Swastikas predate the Nazis by hundreds of years. Good grief. Doesn't everyone know that Hitler

co-opted the symbol from India? No one disputes that he's "ruined" the symbol for everyone else who used it as a positive symbol, but the history of it predates Hitler by many, many years.

http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/symbols/swastika.htm

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been found worldwide, but it is especially common in India. Its name comes the Sanskrit word svasti (sv = well; asti = is), meaning good fortune, luck and well-being. This original meaning of the swastika is a far cry from Western associations of the symbol, which are largely negative. (Also see Hindu beliefs and Hindu fast facts)

The swastika is most commonly used as a charm to bring good fortune (in which case the arms are bent clockwise), but it has a variety of religious meanings...The right-hand swastika is one of the 108 symbols of the Hindu god Vishnu as well as a symbol of the sun and of the Hindu sun god, Surya. The symbol imitates, in the rotation of its arms, the course taken daily by the sun, which appears in the Northern Hemisphere to pass from east, then south, to west. (It is also a symbol of the sun among Native Americans.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika

The term sauwastika (or sauvastika[1][2]) is sometimes used to distinguish the left-facing from the right-facing swastika symbol, a meaning which developed in 19th century scholarship.[3]
The left-facing variant is favoured in Bön and Gurung Dharma; it is called yungdrung in Bon and Gurung Yantra in Gurung Dharma. Both the right-facing and left-facing variants are employed in Hinduism and Buddhism however, the left-facing is more commonly used in Buddhism than Hinduism and the right-facing is more commonly used in Hinduism than Buddhism.[4]
In Buddhism the left-facing sauwastika imprinted on the chest, feet, palms of Buddha and also the first of the 65 auspicious symbols on the footprint of the Buddha.[5][6] In Hinduism the left-facing sauwastika is associated with esoteric tantric practices and often stands for Goddess Kali.[7][8]

[Quayblue]

122. wait what?

Everyone doesn't know this.

But I do, so I'm not sure who you're talking to here.

I am suspicious of anyone who assumes a person dressed this way is a "middle easterner" up to no good. It's offensive to say the least.

[MADem]

126. You were the one who talked about "nazi comparison" were you not?

I find the whole thread to be garbage, as I have said elsewhere in this hot mess.

[Quayblue]

178. please refer to Godwin's law

My post was in response to the OP's comparison. I have no need to draw similarities between symbols that have nothing to do with each other

The original post is the hot mess. This is the same shit that happened...why almost exactly 13 years ago.

[tblue37]

46. Or a Confederate battle flag. nt

[arcane1]

76. .

[reorg]

145. Results of your Jury Service

On Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:42 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

actually Its no worse than a swasticka
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5502586

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Uh oh. Islamophobic comparison of a turban with a swastika (thus comparing Muslims and Nazis).

User commented on a photo posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5502529

then initially said he didn't know what to call what the man wore on his head: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5502546

It seems that the "it" = turban.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:54 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: They are running around in circles here. I do not believe my jury duty is to break of troll fights. I tend to look for decorum and facts, in either order.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter jumped the gun. Alerted without understanding what the poster said.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Wait a minute, the nimrod is comparing a turbine to a swasticka, get it? What the fuck is a swasticka?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The comparison is with a symbol, not a turban. Alerter obviously didn't read the thread/post before alerting on it. In any case, "Islamophobia" needs to be argued about, not censored.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't perceive evil intentions in this comparison. Perhaps confusion.

Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Comparing a turban to a swastika is just plain ignorant.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[NYC_SKP]

182. At least two of the jurors didn't read for understanding and context.

The turban wasn't the point so much as the symbol.

Sheesh DU jurors, get a grip.

[reorg]

147. As someone living in a country where wearing a swastika is illegal

I understand what you are saying. If in fact this person is demonstrating his allegiance to a certain "cause", I can also understand that people may find this irritating.

I do not understand the overbearing arrogance demonstrated by most reactions here. Of course, they may take for granted that the guarantee of free speech doesn't allow for "doing something" - other than engaging in arguments (not very likely) or in propaganda against the terrorists. They may well feel the latter will be the way to go, Fox News and CNN will take care of it, that's what we have them for, after all.

[Warpy]

83. ALLOW???

Maybe not in lily white, tight assed suburbs with gatekeepers to keep anybody who isn't lily white and tight assed out, but people dressed in full Islamic garb are common in my area.

It's not a big deal. Also, I see no ISIS symbol anywhere on this guy. It's a black t-shirt with white pants, sort of how I was dressed yesterday.

[uppityperson]

139. "Allow is here"? Allow what where? Wearing hats or headgear of any sort? What "here"? DU?

USA?

[uppityperson]

144. Do you mean this symbol, this writing? Do you know the background or meaning? Link...

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-04/ever-wonder-what-black-and-white-isis-flag-means

(clip)

The white writing that you see at the top of the flag is the first half of an Islamic phrase called the shahada, or declaration of faith, which reads: “There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.”

The entire shahada is found on many different flags throughout the Islamic world, including the official state flag of Saudi Arabia. But the appropriation of this phrase by ISIS twists the meaning of the Islamic principle, according to Bloom.

“Their use of this phrase is sending very much the wrong message," he says. "If we all accept that this is what this message means, they are co-opting something that has brought millions of people over thousands of years great comfort and solace and meaning in their lives."

Another appropriated symbol on the flag is the white circle at its center, which contains the second part of the shahada: "Muhammad is the Messenger of God." It’s meant to represent the official seal of the Prophet Muhammad, but Blooms says scholars have long debated what that seal actually looked like....(more)

[NuclearDem]

173. Allow what? The shahada?

So do you suspect everyone with John 3:16 on their clothes of being an abortion clinic bomber too?

[lunasun]

180. Exactly! Thank you . The crazies and haters are out in this thread

[elehhhhna]

198. and yarmelke wearers? eating palestinian babies fersure.

sarc

[Marr]

214. If I thought right-wing morons could be trusted to recognize the ISIS symbol...

and not wet their pants and cry wolf at the spotting of some completely innocuous symbol that they took for an ISIS symbol, we'd have something to discuss.

But I do not.

[alp227]

150. KTRH is a right wing talk station in Houston. Take this "poll" with a grain of salt. nt

[yuiyoshida]

163. Never mind...

I figured it out. :S

[LiberalElite]

223. How can they say "you decide"??? How does anyone in the U.S.

know what an "Isis symbol" is supposed to look like?

[Downwinder]

2. Ask if I could help them.

[NuclearDem]

3. Besides wonder what they're doing wearing one of these on their head?

[BainsBane]

9. Perhaps offer him some Advil?

Because wearing that on your head has got to cause a major headache.

[Contrary1]

25. Best response of the day!

I have tears.

[Orrex]

28. I guess that means I can't be his biggest fan.

[NuclearDem]

181. Bad Orrex! Bad!

[laundry_queen]

123. HAHAHA

omfg I had to look at the edits to see what I suspected. You win the internets.

[Turbineguy]

138. Impulse as well as reaction.

There must be a joke in there somewhere too.

[Earth Bound Misfit]

164. ***ROFLSNICKER*

Thanks for the belly-laugh.

[Purveyor]

4. First off...I don't know what a 'isis/isil/is' looks likes. eom

[Agschmid]

52. Me either, beyond that I doubt I'd do much.

[still_one]

65. That's even a better point. This is pure flame bait, and I seriously question the motives of the OP

[BainsBane]

6. A turbine?

That would be worrying.

[hatrack]

8. Wouldn't his beard get caught in the turbine?

Or would it sit on top of his head and generate power up there?

Just wondering . . . .

[BlueJazz]

16. LOL !!! Damn! LOL!

[XemaSab]

19. lulz

[kentauros]

33. It would be easier to wear it on the back.

However, he wouldn't be able to wear a cape.

[Beaverhausen]

10. You first

as in, what would you do if you saw this 'person'?

[sawdust]

23. I really haven't thought of this

Honestly I don't know. I am no racist. The isis emblem is what bothers me!

[still_one]

90. That wasn't the question in your OP. Those who are not direct and say what they mean says what

about them?

[ncjustice80]

11. Nothing because I try not to commit racist acts.

[NoGOPZone]

13. Wearing a turbine? That's a person really committed to energy

independence.

[Beaverhausen]

21. LOL!!!

[still_one]

26. no question about it, and it is quite efficient

[pinboy3niner]

35. Round up the usual suspect...

[PasadenaTrudy]

15. Lol!

Turbine! Sorry, but what a mental image that creates.

[Enrique]

17. Motorhead!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

18. This happened recently....

In Houston, two ISIS supporters terrified members of a Shiite mosque when they interrupted prayer services by screaming orders that the Shiites “repent” from their beliefs and join “the right way” under the leadership of Abu Bakr Baghdadi. ISIS believes that Shiite beliefs are heretical, and have executed hundreds of captured Shias in their quest to eliminate the belief system. Fearing the worst, mosque members immediately phoned the police, who immediately removed the individuals from the premises.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/5/husain-isis-attempts-establish-foothold-us/#ixzz3CgnIz8Fc
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

[still_one]

22. I would wonder what a Sikh is doing with an ISIS symbol , and why he was wearing a dress that didn't

match his purse

[BainsBane]

31. Come on now

Matching purses to dresses is so 90s.

[still_one]

41. I guess I am old school

[sawdust]

37. Why are you folks making such a joke of this

Does it not bother you that someone here is sporting an isis emblem?
It pisses me off honestly!!!

[still_one]

43. you saw it on FB, and the link supplied in this thread was from the Washington Times, that says

everything to me.

Perhaps you should consider better sources

Wait a minute, I got it, lets post something and see how the terrible liburals on DU react

[sawdust]

45. I'm not saying its a real picture I really don't know

I simply ask a question and so far not many answers frankly

[still_one]

50. Let's extrapolate. Because of bush and the invasion of Iraq, ISIS came about. It also destabilized

the entire middle east, and where there was a balance of power between Iraq and Iran, that is gone.

If you have viewed any of the posts regarding ISIS on DU, the vast majority believe that ISIS needs to be stopped, but not by invading other countries. In fact the strategy being employed now is that the administration is providing air support, advisors, and intelligence to countries that are threatened by ISIS. Those countries are supplying the ground fighting force.

People on DU despise ISIS. So where do you think the answer to your hypothetical leads?

It was McCain and many republicans who thought it important to support the rebels in Syria, of course there isn't really a way to distinguish which rebels are ISIS, and which are not.

This all started with the republican and bush doctrine to support nation building in the middle east, and that didn't work out too well.

If anyone posed a threat, such as setting a bomb or suspicious actions, they would be reported to the authorities. The problem with Texas though is that if you see someone carrying a gun, you can't report that as a threat, because that is the norm in Texas

[hatrack]

58. . . . . and the loud, loud silence grinds on . . .

[sawdust]

59. sounds like it

Right

[still_one]

62. Are they poising a threat? That is planting a bomb etc., then report them to authorities, if not,

tell me the law they are breaking by wearing a symbol?

What would you do?

You have asked people here, but you have remained elusive. Would you "take them out" for wearing a symbol?

[reorg]

142. that is the parochial view of Americans

in other countries, wearing a symbol of an organisation that has been found and declared to pursue terrorism is in fact enough to send them to prison. In Germany, for instance, if you are wearing a PKK symbol, that's what is going to happen to you.

I personally don't agree with this policy, but it is real and I won't be surprised if people argue in favor of introducing such laws in the US.

[still_one]

63. What loud silence? What would YOU DO if you saw someone wearing an ISIS symbol?

[uppityperson]

146. You don't know if it is real, or the ISIS flag, but are pissed off someone may or may not be wearing

it? Do you know what the Arabic writing says or do you just assume because it is Arabic in a circle, it must be ISIS? Why do you get so infuriated by a photo that may not be what you fear it may be?

[MADem]

128. I think YOU need to take this thread down. You are having fun, but that kind of thing can come

back and bite you. Your inferences are bigoted.

[still_one]

136. The OP won't take it down, he is playing some intellectual game, that makes him feel superior

[MADem]

154. It's racist and offensive.

Not appropriate for DU, IMO!

[still_one]

187. of course it is.

[Skittles]

148. you folks

do you mean, us commie liberals?

[yuiyoshida]

165. This is why I love

Skittles!

[Skittles]

189. We are paranoid about foreign men sporting turbines!

yes INDEED

[yuiyoshida]

190. Especially

Wind Turbines!

[marzipanni]

201. May cooler turbine-covered heads prevail!...

One's for you if you'd like to wear it~

[CBGLuthier]

172. I get pissed off when people wear the american flag as a decoration.

Does not mean they can not do so and I would never bother anyone doing so. BTW, the american flag is a symbol of lot more deaths than any imaginary ISIS symbol. Just do the math. of course you would have to count all the Koreans, Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghans we have slaughtered and that might be hard for you.

[regnaD kciN]

97. This...

I don't know how many times people need to be reminded: turbans are part of the Sikh dress. It means they aren't Muslim at all.

[emsimon33]

121. That was my reaction: Huh, one of those very rare Middle Eastern Sikhs

There are probably more Sikhs in Bakersfield, CA, than in Syria, Iraq, etc. ... Plus, I have no idea what the ISIS symbol looks like. Finally, I hope that most people in the world don't take many of our graphics and wording on our t-shirts seriously.

[GitRDun]

30. Nothing

This country is in perpetual panic mode.

We don't need any more reasons to panic, we are already there.

[Avalux]

32. Why would he be wearing a rotary mechanical device? n/t

[zappaman]

36. Welcome to DU!

[Katashi_itto]

38. Buy my food. I go to an arabic grocery store, they have awesome food.

[Spider Jerusalem]

39. If I saw someone with a turban and a beard I'd probably assume he was a Sikh?

[LeftyMom]

40. I would tackle them and drag them by their beard to the nearest WalMart,

where Real Americans TM would use the conveniently inexpensive items in the sporting and automotive departments to restrain them and extract a confession. Then I would send somebody to the book section to bring me a devotional written by a charmingly dorky middle aged pastor; from which I could read to them about Our Lord and Savior Jesus H. Christ until the men from a vague yet menacing government agency arrived to take them on their free trip to an All-Inclusive in on the charming but deeply misguided island of Cuba.

[arcane1]

105. I believe the correct term is al-Inclusive

[Agschmid]

107. Hey I heard it had 3 stars!

[LeftyMom]

114. .

[Earth Bound Misfit]

166. Best post ever on DU...

Gonna borrow this if you don't mind.

[Skittles]

218. aw man

I always hope for one good laugh a day but this thead is a smorgasbord!!!

[MohRokTah]

42. I might wave, or say hello.

Sounds like my neighbor three doors down.

[Tom Ripley]

44. Ask him if he knew where I could get some hash

[pinboy3niner]

47. That's the way to detect terrorist cells in the U.S.

By the logos they wear in public.

[Quayblue]

51. lol

[Agschmid]

55. And wind turbines... Don't forget those as indicators of terror cells.

[Kali]

60. ...

[JI7]

48. turbans in the west are usually worn by Sikhs, even ISIS itself doesn't usually wear turbans

[JI7]

49. maybe that it was a costume by some idiot who thinks all brown people are from the same place

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. If he was wearing a turbine

I probably wouldn't be able to get close enough to see his ISIS symbol on account of the noise and exhaust.

[Rex]

54. What does the ISIS symbol look like?

Since you are asking, any idea?

[Agschmid]

57. So this was sort of an OP fail...

No?

[pinboy3niner]

61. Not for appreciators of turbine humor

[Rex]

80. Turbines can be dangerous! Throw them blades 50 miles I tells ya!

Where are our residential turbine experts when we need them?

[Oilwellian]

183. They're at the turbine store

having one fitted for their little heads.

[bigwillq]

64. I would probably ask where they got their turbine

so I can buy one for myself.

[PDJane]

66. Apparently, ISIS or ISIL has "stolen" the seal of the Prophet..........

You can google it.

Apparently, there are a number of respectable clerics who are very upset at this 'theft' and the black flags that are being used by the group. This is not a very respected group.

[sawdust]

69. Thank you

Finally a sensible answer

[still_one]

82. You are so fucking clever with your tricky wisdom

[MADem]

116. There it is!!!! Just as Hitler stole the symbol of the Hindus and Native Americans

this group has stolen imagery that has a respected place in Islam. To be specific, it is a representation of the seal created by the signet ring of the Prophet (PBUH).


I'll tell ya, though.... some of the mockery in this thread is rather disturbing for an ostensibly "democratic/progressive" website. I'm a bit taken aback.

It's not a stellar moment at all.

You're to be commended for your intelligent response here.

[Agschmid]

118. We will all get through it, we always do.

But I'll be good now.

[MADem]

119. Pardon me for "ruining the fun."

But the shit in this thread reads like something other than DU.

[Agschmid]

120. We apparently read quite different DU's...

I'm not saying I did the right thing but I also am not going to just let someone who is propagating a meaningless Facebook meme get away with it without being called on it.

Clearly a few others agree.

[MADem]

124. I think this entire thread is garbage.

It is flame bait, and further, all that "turbine" crap is just ... unnecessary. If it's not OK to mock someone for being, say, fat, or short, or ugly, it's not ok to mock people who are members of specific ethnic or cultural groups and are committing no "crime" save wearing their culture's traditional clothing.

[Agschmid]

127. Did you see people mocking turbans anywhere because I did not.

I agree mocking a protected class is out of line. Again I don't disagree I probably went a bit out of line here but it's 1:23am on the east coast and this is well... the internet, land of aggressive anonymity. Not that that's a great excuse.

[MADem]

129. Read the thread.

All that "turbine" talk isn't about turbines.

[Agschmid]

130. Well it's a good time I spent my time here taking about mayonnaise then...

Good night.

[NuclearDem]

174. Please go check the OP's edit history.

That should clear a few things up for you.

EDIT: Actually, I'll just say it myself. The OP originally spelled it turbine.

[MADem]

191. This whole thread is not DU's finest hour. nt

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

206. Yeah, actually, it is.

People were mocking the OP for mixing up two words, not making fun of people who actually wear turbans.

[arcane1]

67. I wouldn't recognize the symbol anyway. Nice try though.

I see turbans and other sorts of middle-eastern garments all the time. I see white guys with face tattoos too. A little bit of everything.

[Agschmid]

68. Now those white dudes with face tattoos are some scary shit...

I'm shaking in my Sperry's.

[BainsBane]

153. For reals

[Rex]

70. Seriously, how the fuck are we supposed to react if we have no clue what it looks like?

I guess the OP has no clue either.

[sawdust]

72. watch the news

Google it

[Rex]

73. So that would be a YES, you have no clue either.

Wonderful, thanks for wasting my time.

[still_one]

75. Why don't you tell us what YOU would do?

[regnaD kciN]

158. Because his likely goal...

...is to run back to Freeperland, to breathlessly reveal how Those Liberals a) coddle ISIS, b) are ignorant, about and hence soft on, Islamic Terra, c) mistreat True American Patriots who try to call attention to The Threat Of Muslim Terraists, or d) all of the above.

[still_one]

186. maybe, but I think he is playing an "intellectual" mind game to show how "clever" he is

[arcane1]

74. It probably looks like a soccer jersey.

And of course, all infiltrating terrorists walk around in a blatant evil villain costume when they do their sneaky deeds!

[Rex]

77. Well I have to admit, it would be hard to miss someone wearing a turbine on their head.

But a lot of people walk around in blatant evil villain costumes so some identifier would help, I see the OP put no thought into that part.

[Agschmid]

79. I knew it...

I saw this guy in a batman outfit yesterday and I be the was up to no good, but was playing it off like he was a superhero...

Go figure.

[arcane1]

108. Well if I see any costumed people at the end of October, I know to blame Obama

That's for sure!

[Agschmid]

111. And Elizabeth Warren I hear it's her fault too.

[morningfog]

78. Order my turkey sandwich and eat it.

[Agschmid]

85. Mmmmm turkey... Does that sandwich have bacon?

[morningfog]

88. Of course. And extra mayo.

[Rex]

92. Ah ha! Extra mayo...just as I thought!

[Agschmid]

93. Okay mayo as in mayo... Or miracle whip?

[morningfog]

98. MAYO.

[Agschmid]

100. Thank The Lord.

[Rex]

102. Whew...okay crisis adverted, stand down.

[pinboy3niner]

81. For me, the neon "Middle Eastern Person" sign over them would be my first clue. nt

[Quayblue]

91. with the flashing neon arrow pointing at the top of his turbine

a lot going on in that image...

[Rex]

95. Well something will have to power the sign!

Probably could have gotten away with just a normal generator, but hey turbine works too...makes a statement imo.

[Agschmid]

103. Well since all these people are from the Middle East I think solar is more efficient to be honest.

Just in case...

"These people" =

[Rex]

106. Now you have me wondering, is there a difference between East and Eastern?

Does the OP mean someone that looks Middle Eastern-ish? I was unaware anyone wore turbines on their heads, but hey it could happen! Maybe the Eastern people also created, Easter Island using turbines? Of course they were ancient alien turbines.


Yep, use them on my hair.

[Agschmid]

110. Alien turbines spin on a vertical axis... see

That looks alien to me!

[Rex]

113. I can't imagine wearing one of those into a store, but hey to each their own!

I'm sure nobody noticed.

[pinboy3niner]

132. I can think of a couple of friends who might consider wearing PART of it

But they've been gay blades since forever, so it's no big deal.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

207. That's one of my fave campy movies that I'd forgotten about.

'Zorro, the Gay Blade'. I especially liked the gold lame Zorro outfit.

[steelsmith]

176. Cool turbine!!!

beautiful Where is that?

[Scootaloo]

84. I would think "At least he's not wearing the Yankees logo"

[Rex]

86. This is series! I can't believe people are joking around about an anonymous picture on FB!

I mean, COME ON MAN! FACEBOOK!

[Agschmid]

87. Don't mock it, it's the only book some people read.

See what I did there?

[Rex]

89. DU-ZEEEY!

That was good!

[pinboy3niner]

104. !!!!!

[Scootaloo]

96. Facebook? Amidoinitrite?

[Rex]

99. Oh shit! Two DU-ZEES that close together gonna cause problems!

You can see where this is all leading to...

[Agschmid]

101. Nooooooooooooo......

[BainsBane]

143. Don't tase me brony!

[Skittles]

149. HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM

I SAW IT ON FACEBOOK

[Rex]

109. What would you do if you saw an ancient alien

wearing a turbine on his head at the local Seven Eleven? Serious question.

[still_one]

112. buy a lottery ticket, serious answer, I really want to win the lotto

[Agschmid]

115. Thank him for sharing his technology...

[uppityperson]

117. I liked it better when it was a turbine and a thobe is NOT a dress, more of a robe.

A random man wearing a dress and a turbine on his head gives quite the visual

[emsimon33]

125. There are very few Sikhs in the Middle East

If I could recognize the symbol for ISIS, I probably would be thrown for a moment into cognitive dissonance as I would find it difficult to fathom why a Sikh would be a supporter of ISIS, a group of Muslim, right-wing terrorists.

Here is a brief summery of the religious beliefs of Sikhs:
http://www.sikhs.org/summary.htm

[NOLALady]

131. Ignore the person

and continue shopping.

[sawdust]

134. Thank you

For answering genuinely....

[still_one]

135. who are YOU to determine who is answering "genuinely or not".

[pinboy3niner]

140. The only way to take his reply is as hilariously ironic

I'm still surprised he hasn't deleted the thread after all this.

[Skittles]

151. my guess is he doesn't know how

[pinboy3niner]

156. On the positive side...

...for all of us mockers and ridiculers, it's the gift that keeps on giving.

[Agschmid]

171. Is this the thread about sandwiches...

You know with mayo?

[Quayblue]

212. yeah and everyone left out the avocado

This sandwich is my lunch mission tomorrow. All because of DU....dang-ed ole sandwich lovers

[Skittles]

221. oh this thread quickly became a DU classic

oh yeah

[still_one]

188. I am not, he is playing with DU

[grahamhgreen]

133. Ask him where he got it.

[reorg]

137. IF you saw somebody making propaganda in favor of

a terrorist organisation, a good citizen would alert the authorities, the cops would come and probably shoot the transgressor on the spot in case he makes some quick moves and doesn't lie down quickly enough.

In reality, you and I would probably do nothing, if said violation just involved a symbol being worn on a shirt or a coat.

In case someone is really concerned about what such a symbol may mean, they could try and start a conversation about it with the person who is wearing it.

[Kalidurga]

141. I don't know what an Isis symbol looks like

So, I would pay them as much attention as all the other middle eastern people I see everytime I go to downtown Minneapolis or St.Paul and that is very little attention other than to notice they might be wearing something interesting sans Isis symbols.

[pinboy3niner]

152. HEY! I saw a guy with suspicious headgear and weird symbols!

Where do I report him?

[tomm2thumbs]

170. DUzy!

[treestar]

155. Have no idea what the ISIS symbol is

therefore, nada.

[NBachers]

157. Free Charles Manson Now!

[rpannier]

159. I see them all the time in Itaewon w/o the ISIS

The foreigner section of Seoul
I think nothing of it

on edit: What is the ISIS Symbol???

[regnaD kciN]

160. You know, I have one simple request...

...and that is to have ISIS terrorists with frickin' turbines attached to their heads!

[daschess1987]

161. I've heard some right-wing chatter about terrorists coming from the "wide-open" southern border...

It's cover for when one of them smokes a border patrol agent or a biologist studying bats.

[baldguy]

167. Because all brown people look the same.

[malaise]

162. The odds of running into an idiot

pushing fear and promoting stereotypes are way higher (if yah know what I mean).

[gollygee]

168. No idea what an Isis symbol looks like

but I do see Middle Eastern people around frequently, and I don't examine their clothes. Most middle eastern people don't seem to wear turbans.

[ileus]

169. Invite him/her to church.

[cvoogt]

177. I'd ask them

If they knew how to get out of Syria, and if they knew how I ended up there. Seriously.

[B Calm]

179. In this area of the country I would figure he was following me

because I forgot to pay the office gal my co pay.

[lunasun]

184. Iraq was a secular state under Saddam. Before Bush &Cheney invaded under false claims

Sunni,Shia and Christians too lived together in Iraq. Baghdad was thriving

Iraq was a fully functioning state and if one were Kurdish, Jew or a dissident, life wasn’t like that, and I’m not suggesting for a second that we should forget their suffering. But by and large, life was better for the majority. We did not go to war to defend and aid the Kurds. Bush and Cheney made false claims to US citizens to start the invasion . Republicans declared you are with them or antiAmerican in this course

And terrorist like ISIS could never have gotten this big and powerful in Iraq. before the invasion / destruction so take that back to your Freep friends and eat it instead of creating false hysteria and stereotyping folks based on color or religion which I know will be hard to do since it is already a habit.

[sibelian]

185. C'maaawn. SILLY Question.

This is much more important:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025503198

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

192. The last ME person I dealt with was an Egyptian who was selling me a car last year.

He was dressed in a business suit and had a noticeable accent. I asked him where he was from and I said "Salaam Aleichem to him. He was delighted and we talked Egyptian politics on the test drive.

[Glassunion]

193. What is an ISIS symbol?

[uppityperson]

194. google gives me this

[Glassunion]

195. That looks cool.

[sawdust]

200. maybe this will clear this up

http://m.

[uppityperson]

203. I posted information upthread for you about that flag. Here...

What do you think about this? Did you know what it is? Did you know what the writing says, or how it upsets other people that they are trying to co-opt this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5503129
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09-04/ever-wonder-what-black-and-white-isis-flag-means

(clip)

The white writing that you see at the top of the flag is the first half of an Islamic phrase called the shahada, or declaration of faith, which reads: “There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.”

The entire shahada is found on many different flags throughout the Islamic world, including the official state flag of Saudi Arabia. But the appropriation of this phrase by ISIS twists the meaning of the Islamic principle, according to Bloom.

“Their use of this phrase is sending very much the wrong message," he says. "If we all accept that this is what this message means, they are co-opting something that has brought millions of people over thousands of years great comfort and solace and meaning in their lives."

Another appropriated symbol on the flag is the white circle at its center, which contains the second part of the shahada: "Muhammad is the Messenger of God." It’s meant to represent the official seal of the Prophet Muhammad, but Blooms says scholars have long debated what that seal actually looked like....(more)

[sawdust]

205. Thank you

I didn't see this as the thread has gone wild. I am very sure that the majority in this country have no idea of the meaning of this symbol or flag orther than the evil portrayed by isil.

[SomethingFishy]

196. Shoot him on the spot.

Because that's how we roll here in Murika!

You right wingers just don't get it. 9/11 will not happen again. No matter how much you fantasize, how much you wish, no matter how badly you want to prove that all Muslims are the enemy, you are wrong. Dead fucking wrong. Problem is you will never be convinced that global warming is more dangerous to you than terrorists.

So you'll buy your bullets and your guns, and join your militias and be "vigilant". In the meantime corporations will steal from you, banks will fuck you over and you will destroy your planet with impunity, and actually laugh at anyone who tries to tell you the truth.

You get... what you deserve.

[randys1]

204. But I thought we were suppose to hate and fear anyone with different clothes or facial hair

or hats, etc.

Arent we?

Fear, hate, same thing

[dilby]

197. The owner of my neighborhood 7/11 wears a turban and has a beard.

He is sikh so it's cultural and he is not from the Middle East. Also does anyone know what the isis symbol looks like? I mean could some dumb neanderthal really tell the difference between an isis symbol or another sign.

[Skittles]

210. I think it looks like this

I heard it has black lightning

[Glassunion]

219. What the hell do Tesla and Edison have to do with this?

[Skittles]

222. OK it was black flag

my bad

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

202. That's easy enough.

I'd completely fail to recognize it.

[underthematrix]

208. Well being black and all and understanding people are different,

I would just say Hi.

[madinmaryland]

209. Nothing. Now if I saw a jackass walking around with his penis (oops, I mean military grade weapon)

hanging out, I would fucking call the cops.

[ScreamingMeemie]

211. This again??? I would get rid of the facebook friend who shared it. Being in Houston

we meet all kinds of people, and no one sane is buying this.

I'd probably talk about the fact that the Astros aren't going to lose 100 games this year. People in Houston are nice like that, and we love chatting at the corner store.

[DebJ]

213. I would think it quite convenient if terrorists began publicly labelling themselves and

announcing themselves as terrorists. Homeland Security would be delighted!

[Marrah_G]

216. LMAO

[Marrah_G]

215. Smile and say hello?

Why? because I am an educated woman and not an ignorant fox news junkie.

[NuttyFluffers]

217. Id take the treat seriesly & cast asparagus on his chartar.

note: chartar is not a pokémon.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

220. ignore them much the same way as i do most fundamentalists?