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they have to stop palling around with repugs and saying things that show adoration for polices that the rest of the progressive world finds repulsive.
I really believe it was President Clinton's friendship (swanning) with the bushes that ultimately cost Hilary the nomination by creating cracks in support up front. Here they are, both of them, doing it again.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)The Clintons are basically Republicans. What do you expect them to do? Hang around with Jimmy Carter?
still_one
(92,190 posts)he list the labor vote. Of course labor wasn't too swift thinking they would get a better deal from Reagan and they paid for it dearly
don't pal around with GWB and expect us to support you.......
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Third Way failed, but no one told them I guess
Maybe they could do an interview with Barbara Walters or something
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)U.S. auto industry, recapitialized the banks, etc. etc. etc.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)still_one
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simply will not work with the Democrats. To them it is either all their way or nothing
If Hillary runs and wins it will not be better, perhaps even worse. You do recall how she was treated when she tried to work with them for Healthcare reform? There was absolutely no compromise with them
As far as bill clinton, the only reason he was able to "work" with the republicans it was on their agenda, not the Democrats, like deregulation, NAFTA, welfare reform, etc.
A lot of things done under BBill Clinton hurt a lot of people, and set us up for the financial meltdown because he signed the Republican agenda at the time, which started with Reagan. The S&L crisis, all kinds of things which were part of the Republican agenda and signed by Bill Clinton, which almost sent us into a depression
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Did it hurt American families with tax cuts on salaries of $27000 a year?
Did it hurt American families with student loans from the government at lower interest rates?
On welfare reform, yes, it needed reform, a program to assist people to get off welfare and into work, it is good when people work.
The Brady Bill, this is something which has been allowed to lapse but should have been made permanent but Republicans chose differently.
Just who do you think could be elected and get an agenda passed which would be in favor of Democrats?
still_one
(92,190 posts)birth control, etc.
I notice you didn't mention deregulation or the repeal of GlassSteagall which President Clinton supported, and signed, and was one of the biggest factors that contributed to the financial melt down
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)We know where Hillary stands on these issues, know she has been an activist for rights of women and against violence against women.
You did not respond to the questions of how Family and Medical Leaves, etc, has hurt Americans.
still_one
(92,190 posts)directed more at some of the things Bill Clinton did, not that I always agree on every position with Hillary, but based on the republican war against women, I think she has the best chance of winning if she chooses to run.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Other Democrats then they are "shunned" such as John Huntsman was. In order to move an agenda around and through Washington one will have to cross the lines and find working partners. Reagan and Tip O'Neill spent lots of time getting deals worked after chambers closed. Which Republican do you think would really work with Obama? We see the results. There are good Republicans, they voted with the Democrats to pass the ACA. We can either learn to work together or watch crap continue to roll downhill.
still_one
(92,190 posts)bill without any Republican votes in its final form. Same with the Senate
The difference with reagan and tip o'neill is that the republican has radically changed. We are not talking about simply a conservative party, we are talking about an ultra conservative party today
Please educate me with who these "good republicans" are?
You do know the President actually bent over backward trying to compromise with the republicans, even going so far as putting social security on the table.
How about this, why can't the republicans learn to work together?
still_one
(92,190 posts)keeps
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)4b5f940728b232b034e4
(120 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)The Clintons go out of their way to prove they will get along with the 1% and the right wing, and ignore the left. That was the whole point of the DLC. The corporate media love them for it.