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samsingh

(17,598 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:29 PM Sep 2014

If the Clinton's want to return to the White House (and i want them to)

they have to stop palling around with repugs and saying things that show adoration for polices that the rest of the progressive world finds repulsive.

I really believe it was President Clinton's friendship (swanning) with the bushes that ultimately cost Hilary the nomination by creating cracks in support up front. Here they are, both of them, doing it again.

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If the Clinton's want to return to the White House (and i want them to) (Original Post) samsingh Sep 2014 OP
I want them to be classy and follow James Earl Carter's lead. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
Birds of a feather. PeteSelman Sep 2014 #2
Actually Jimmy Carter started deregulation of the airline industry, which is one of the reasons still_one Sep 2014 #15
yup Pharaoh Sep 2014 #3
agreed samsingh Sep 2014 #22
LOL the Clintons are so 90s leftstreet Sep 2014 #4
Which part of getting Obama's agenda passed is working now, who is responsible? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #7
Lilly Ledbetter Act, the ACA, gay rights, women's rights, the stimulus, Wall Street Reform, save the still_one Sep 2014 #10
What about the Minimum Wage, VAWA, where are those bills. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #11
Most of what I named was when we had a majority in both houses. this republican party today still_one Sep 2014 #14
Did it hurt American families with the Family and Medical Leave Act? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #17
jobs, Social security, Medicare, women's rights especially in regard to their health which includes still_one Sep 2014 #21
I am glad to see you mention jobs, Social Security, Medicare, women's rights, super important issues Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #23
I support Hillary. Not sure where you got the impression that I didn't. My negative comments were still_one Sep 2014 #24
And so is economic stability AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #16
This is what the RW does, if any republican is caught working with Obama or Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #5
"There are good Republicans that voted to pass the ACA", Really? The House did the health-care still_one Sep 2014 #9
Hillary cost Hillary the election. However, you are correct about Hillary chosing the company she still_one Sep 2014 #6
Once a GOP suck-up, always a GOP suck-up. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #8
Are you talking about Elizabeth Warren who was republican until a few years ago? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #18
I think that the way the Clintons campaign is symbolic of the flaw in our political system. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #12
The Clinton's what? 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Sep 2014 #13
Clinton's ...always and forever the neo-liberals and bad for the Dem party. L0oniX Sep 2014 #19
That right wing kowtowing is what made Hillary's nomination "inevitable" the first time. Marr Sep 2014 #20

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
2. Birds of a feather.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:31 PM
Sep 2014

The Clintons are basically Republicans. What do you expect them to do? Hang around with Jimmy Carter?

still_one

(92,190 posts)
15. Actually Jimmy Carter started deregulation of the airline industry, which is one of the reasons
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:57 AM
Sep 2014

he list the labor vote. Of course labor wasn't too swift thinking they would get a better deal from Reagan and they paid for it dearly

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
4. LOL the Clintons are so 90s
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:38 PM
Sep 2014

Third Way failed, but no one told them I guess

Maybe they could do an interview with Barbara Walters or something

still_one

(92,190 posts)
10. Lilly Ledbetter Act, the ACA, gay rights, women's rights, the stimulus, Wall Street Reform, save the
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:02 PM
Sep 2014

U.S. auto industry, recapitialized the banks, etc. etc. etc.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
14. Most of what I named was when we had a majority in both houses. this republican party today
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:54 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)

simply will not work with the Democrats. To them it is either all their way or nothing

If Hillary runs and wins it will not be better, perhaps even worse. You do recall how she was treated when she tried to work with them for Healthcare reform? There was absolutely no compromise with them

As far as bill clinton, the only reason he was able to "work" with the republicans it was on their agenda, not the Democrats, like deregulation, NAFTA, welfare reform, etc.

A lot of things done under BBill Clinton hurt a lot of people, and set us up for the financial meltdown because he signed the Republican agenda at the time, which started with Reagan. The S&L crisis, all kinds of things which were part of the Republican agenda and signed by Bill Clinton, which almost sent us into a depression

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. Did it hurt American families with the Family and Medical Leave Act?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:30 AM
Sep 2014

Did it hurt American families with tax cuts on salaries of $27000 a year?
Did it hurt American families with student loans from the government at lower interest rates?
On welfare reform, yes, it needed reform, a program to assist people to get off welfare and into work, it is good when people work.
The Brady Bill, this is something which has been allowed to lapse but should have been made permanent but Republicans chose differently.

Just who do you think could be elected and get an agenda passed which would be in favor of Democrats?

still_one

(92,190 posts)
21. jobs, Social security, Medicare, women's rights especially in regard to their health which includes
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:10 AM
Sep 2014

birth control, etc.

I notice you didn't mention deregulation or the repeal of Glass–Steagall which President Clinton supported, and signed, and was one of the biggest factors that contributed to the financial melt down

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. I am glad to see you mention jobs, Social Security, Medicare, women's rights, super important issues
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:52 PM
Sep 2014

We know where Hillary stands on these issues, know she has been an activist for rights of women and against violence against women.

You did not respond to the questions of how Family and Medical Leaves, etc, has hurt Americans.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
24. I support Hillary. Not sure where you got the impression that I didn't. My negative comments were
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:36 PM
Sep 2014

directed more at some of the things Bill Clinton did, not that I always agree on every position with Hillary, but based on the republican war against women, I think she has the best chance of winning if she chooses to run.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. This is what the RW does, if any republican is caught working with Obama or
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:39 PM
Sep 2014

Other Democrats then they are "shunned" such as John Huntsman was. In order to move an agenda around and through Washington one will have to cross the lines and find working partners. Reagan and Tip O'Neill spent lots of time getting deals worked after chambers closed. Which Republican do you think would really work with Obama? We see the results. There are good Republicans, they voted with the Democrats to pass the ACA. We can either learn to work together or watch crap continue to roll downhill.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
9. "There are good Republicans that voted to pass the ACA", Really? The House did the health-care
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:56 PM
Sep 2014

bill without any Republican votes in its final form. Same with the Senate

The difference with reagan and tip o'neill is that the republican has radically changed. We are not talking about simply a conservative party, we are talking about an ultra conservative party today

Please educate me with who these "good republicans" are?

You do know the President actually bent over backward trying to compromise with the republicans, even going so far as putting social security on the table.

How about this, why can't the republicans learn to work together?


still_one

(92,190 posts)
6. Hillary cost Hillary the election. However, you are correct about Hillary chosing the company she
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:40 PM
Sep 2014

keeps

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
20. That right wing kowtowing is what made Hillary's nomination "inevitable" the first time.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:40 AM
Sep 2014

The Clintons go out of their way to prove they will get along with the 1% and the right wing, and ignore the left. That was the whole point of the DLC. The corporate media love them for it.

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