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leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
1. Did he go to jail when it happened?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:59 AM
Sep 2014


If not, apparently she's not the only one who doesn't understand it's criminal behavior

still_one

(92,151 posts)
3. No, and he will not be prosecuted either. They were both initially charged, then charges dropped
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:12 PM
Sep 2014

against her, and he was told to get therapy for a year.

This was a criminal act of assault that was committed, and just because the prosecutor decided not to pursue, does not take erase the crime


MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. The prosecutor did pursue. He pled guilty. He entered a diversion program.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:19 PM
Sep 2014

It's ENTIRELY appropriate to discuss if the punishment was sufficient, but it's factually incorrect to say there was no legal involvement in this incident.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2014/09/ray_rice_video_prosecutors_ofifice_says_decision_was_correct_not_seek_jail_time_for_rice.html

And there's no changing the decision to allow Rice into the diversion program, which was approved by Atlantic County prosecutor (and Rutgers Rutgers School of Law gradute) James McClain in May.There can be no further legal punishment taken against Rice for the assault unless he violates terms of the year-long diversion program, which includes mandated counseling.

Rice is a first-time offender, but experts questioned the use of New Jersey's pretrial intervention program in this instance. Under the law, a "defendant charged with crime is eligible for enrollment in a PTI program," but prosecutors can deny entry if a crime was "deliberately committed with violence or threat of violence against another person."

The video obtained by TMZ seems show that.

"We want to give prosecutors some leeway in cases, but this case shows we need to tighten up the law," Assemblyman Joseph Cryan (D-Union) told NJ Advance Media. "There are plenty of folks who agree with me. The decision to allow Rice into PTI was wrong.

Cryan said he plans to introduce new legislation -- a bill he has worked on long before the Rice's latest video went public -- as soon as Monday to stiffen penalties when it comes domestic violence....

still_one

(92,151 posts)
8. thanks for the correction. I also think it is appropriate for the media to report it. At the
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:27 PM
Sep 2014

minimum he would be considered a public figure

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I agree. It's no secret that the rich and famous (and popular) get treated differently by the
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:33 PM
Sep 2014

criminal justice system. That article does a decent job of breaking all that down.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. He was charged and put in a diversion program where if he completes
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:14 PM
Sep 2014

some sort of program his slate is wiped clean. I haven't seen anything about the details of the program.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/ravens-cut-ray-rice-in-wake-of-latest-domestic-violence-video/


Rice, who pleaded guilty to a third-degree aggravated assault charge, entered a pretrial diversion program and is undergoing counseling.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
2. How do you know? What would you have her do?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:05 PM
Sep 2014

The facts didn't change yesterday. The legal system, the league, Janay, Ray, and all of us (who happened to have heard of the incident previously), knew he knocked her out in an elevator all along.

still_one

(92,151 posts)
4. This isn't about her. This is about assault, which is a criminal offense period. No where in my
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:13 PM
Sep 2014

post did I say anything about what she should or should not do.

Michael Vick had jail time for animal abuse. An assault is also a criminal offense

millions of women are abused everyday, and because he was a start football player he was treated differently

My main point though is, the media had every right to report this story, they were doing their job

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