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blm

(113,043 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:56 PM Sep 2014

None of MSNBC 'left' programs discussed Chuck Todd's disastrous performance.

Were they censored from criticizing their boss? Did they decide on their own to ignore the elephant in the newsroom all day Sunday and yesterday? Still today?

If this is how it is going to be, the TRUTH will get NOTHING while GOP narratives supported by Chuck Todd and his lack of journalistic ethics, will get to go unchallenged, even by the MSNBC shows the left has been depending on for the minimal amount of coverage that does challenge the RW media machine.

Sorry - - count me in with those who think that NBC corporate media only uses the nighttime programming of MSNBC to placate the left while the corporate heads shape the daily news coverage and the debate ON THEIR OWN TERMS.

If I somehow missed the coverage from any of the shows, then, I offer an apology in advance - if I am correct and no one referred to it yesterday, then our left 'stars' aren't really ours, are they?

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None of MSNBC 'left' programs discussed Chuck Todd's disastrous performance. (Original Post) blm Sep 2014 OP
I said this in another thread but it bears repeating... SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #1
I was wondering if Morning Joe even mentioned the Syria screw up underpants Sep 2014 #2
Tried to catch story lineups to every MSNBC show yesterday and heard NOTHING. blm Sep 2014 #3
Honor among thieves... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #4
Had Chris Wallace conducted himself like Todd, MSNBC hosts would have spoken out blm Sep 2014 #9
What you're talking about would be 'news' rock Sep 2014 #5
is Chuck their boss now? grasswire Sep 2014 #6
That covers all the NBCs blm Sep 2014 #10
Well we should bombard all the programs demanding that he malaise Sep 2014 #7
I've been sending tweets... Historic NY Sep 2014 #12
NBC and Todd should be sued for malpractice. blm Sep 2014 #14
Actually he should have been fired for lying about the President in his malaise Sep 2014 #49
Why would they? All that matters is getting a paycheck each week. Rex Sep 2014 #8
"If this is how it is going to be, the TRUTH will get NOTHING while GOP narratives"............... wandy Sep 2014 #11
I knew I couldn't be the only one thoroughly disgusted by the MSNBC shows blm Sep 2014 #13
Even more depressing, MSNBC is about as good as it gets.............. wandy Sep 2014 #16
You don't shit where you eat. progressoid Sep 2014 #15
Which leaves 'truth' and us totally screwed over, at this point. blm Sep 2014 #17
Yep. progressoid Sep 2014 #44
Yeah, but.... Plucketeer Sep 2014 #47
Lean forward bobduca Sep 2014 #51
I find this to be one of the most amusing "issues" to come up in months! The_Commonist Sep 2014 #18
I've always known - I'm using this opportunity to open up more eyes. blm Sep 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2014 #19
Where is Rachel Maddow on this? If this interview had been on Fox News, stopbush Sep 2014 #21
We have to get "our" news from The Guardian. nt valerief Sep 2014 #22
I also noticed that! n/t Duval Sep 2014 #23
Rachel, Ed and the rest are on a short leash. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #24
You are forgetting something.... RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #25
what did he do? Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #26
Read it and weep. KamaAina Sep 2014 #27
thx Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #33
Best viewed... ReRe Sep 2014 #39
When push comes to shove, all corporate employees are corporate weenies BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #28
Hello. Nt Stardust Sep 2014 #38
With Comcast's teabagger CEO calling the shots, what did you expect? derby378 Sep 2014 #29
can't "bite" the hand that feeds you! ebbie15644 Sep 2014 #30
Well, they can't completely sweep it under the rug because Letterman is ON IT*. tblue37 Sep 2014 #31
Pretty sad state for broadcast news. Too bad for us Dave will be leaving soon. blm Sep 2014 #35
Colbert will be replacing Dave. KamaAina Sep 2014 #36
NBC = Faux Lite lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #32
Simple solution Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #34
I don't turn to 'news' programs for news. I monitor to hear what MOST voters blm Sep 2014 #37
Your choice of course Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #40
They didn't fire Gregory because of ratings rurallib Sep 2014 #41
K&R for EXPOSURE ReRe Sep 2014 #42
Question is: Why did Chuck Todd and MSNBC think they could get away with it? KoKo Sep 2014 #43
Its time for the WH and the rest of the administration from... Historic NY Sep 2014 #45
Yep. It is why we read. So we can know the truth. Or as close as we can get these days. raouldukelives Sep 2014 #46
k&r johnnyreb Sep 2014 #48
Did they criticize it before? Generic Brad Sep 2014 #50
I'd be very surprised to hear any of the MSNBC folk criticize Chuck Todd... liberalla Sep 2014 #52
His corporate bosses likely approved of his asinine performance. blm Sep 2014 #53
I found this nifty pic of the ComcastM$GOP CEO that explains it all corkhead Sep 2014 #54

underpants

(182,769 posts)
2. I was wondering if Morning Joe even mentioned the Syria screw up
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:59 PM
Sep 2014

But Joe is going to be in MTP so I expected not

blm

(113,043 posts)
3. Tried to catch story lineups to every MSNBC show yesterday and heard NOTHING.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:03 PM
Sep 2014

This is where I want to scream at every damn one of them - from Ed to O'Donnell - for going along with the corporatocracy.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. Honor among thieves...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:04 PM
Sep 2014

They don't want one of their own to be embarrassed. You know darn well if he had done that in an interview with Bush, FOX Noise would have been all over it.

blm

(113,043 posts)
9. Had Chris Wallace conducted himself like Todd, MSNBC hosts would have spoken out
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:09 PM
Sep 2014

in every one of their shows about the utter lack of journalistic ethics displayed.

If this is the way it is going to be from now on, MSNBC can G F Y!!!

malaise

(268,930 posts)
7. Well we should bombard all the programs demanding that he
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:07 PM
Sep 2014

apologizes to the President and the few persons who actually watched Meet the Hacks Version whatever.

That was a disastrous start and he must pay.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
12. I've been sending tweets...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:26 PM
Sep 2014

about the freshman MTP interview...and why NBC is changing transcripts and editing video..

malaise

(268,930 posts)
49. Actually he should have been fired for lying about the President in his
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:18 PM
Sep 2014

presence -that either took some nerve or it was utter contempt.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Why would they? All that matters is getting a paycheck each week.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:08 PM
Sep 2014

NBC is now just another Foxnews Lite channel imo. Pathetic trash that I will never watch.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
11. "If this is how it is going to be, the TRUTH will get NOTHING while GOP narratives"...............
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:24 PM
Sep 2014

Always remember, never forget, it ain't called corporate media for no reason.

blm

(113,043 posts)
13. I knew I couldn't be the only one thoroughly disgusted by the MSNBC shows
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:29 PM
Sep 2014

remaining so silent in the face of such a disgusting display of journalistic malpractice.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
16. Even more depressing, MSNBC is about as good as it gets..............
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:45 PM
Sep 2014

I am not defending RT but at least you know who owns them and who they are driving the manure spreader for.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
15. You don't shit where you eat.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

Not defending their inaction, but it's likely they know what lines cannot be crossed.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
44. Yep.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:41 PM
Sep 2014

We denizens of the interwebs seem to be the only ones saying anything.

Oh, and the Letterman bit. That was pretty good.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
47. Yeah, but....
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:42 PM
Sep 2014

if you don't mention it, you haven't lied. Look at Cenk's experience. I'm sure Olbermann got the same squeeze. So that's the leverage. Play by the rules or don't. If Todd had been on a different network....

I'm not gonna stomp in your puddle. But you hafta ask yourself if all the rest that the MSNBC hosts DO turn a spotlight on is useless when weighed against Todd's gaff. I'm not ready to toss the baby out with the Todd water. I support FS TV, and curiously, I rarely see them mentioned here like MSNBCs crowd - maybe I'm just blind. I'm not defending MSNBCs evening lineup, but it's them or the other rot on TV when I'm slouched in my chair. Not caring to oogle a leggy blond on a stool, I turn to MSNBC. And since I'm not perfect, I can forgive them now an then.

Todd's already said that his job is not to get the truth - only to parrot what he hears - he's an entertainer, not an investigative reporter. In telling us this, he's tipped his hand. I, for one, am not surprised he's not shooting square. In a perfect world we'd command vast majorities in both houses. Veterans wouldn't have to be looking for handouts. Bridges and hiways wouldn't be crumbling. US forces would be kept OUT of other peoples business. If one was sick, they'd get the care they needed without ever having to go for their wallet. That world has yet to arrive.

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
18. I find this to be one of the most amusing "issues" to come up in months!
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:52 PM
Sep 2014

"MSNBC 'left' programs"



My goddess, but people around here are suckers.
IT'S ALL CORPORATE MEDIA!!!

Rachel™ (and whomever else is on that "news" network) is just as much a part of Corporatia as News Corp and Fox. They just slant their content to be attractive to you, so they can sell advertisements to your eyeballs.

So yes, your paragraph that begins with "count me in..." is correct.

blm

(113,043 posts)
20. I've always known - I'm using this opportunity to open up more eyes.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:02 PM
Sep 2014

I wouldn't do it for the sake of personal amusement.

Response to blm (Original post)

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
21. Where is Rachel Maddow on this? If this interview had been on Fox News,
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:08 PM
Sep 2014

she'd be planning her second day of big coverage. As of now, crickets.

Where's Big Ed? Lawrence? Hayes and all of the other MSNBC lefties who would be all over this if Chuck Todd was a Fox or CBS or ABC personality.

And where were Rachel and the rest when David Gregory was licking Karl Rove's balls for all those years? Silent, that's where.

Gives one a perspective, does it not?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. Rachel, Ed and the rest are on a short leash.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:18 PM
Sep 2014

They are allowed to say some things but they will never say anything derogatory about an NBC personality even if that personality is Number One Dumbass Chuck Todd.

The media SUCKS!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
25. You are forgetting something....
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:22 PM
Sep 2014

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

and

Ignorance is Strength.


I think that Upchuck Toad is trying to maintain all three.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
28. When push comes to shove, all corporate employees are corporate weenies
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:29 PM
Sep 2014

If they want to keep their job.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
29. With Comcast's teabagger CEO calling the shots, what did you expect?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:32 PM
Sep 2014

When news outlets are stripped of their anonymity, people like Chuhtawwww!!! windup hosting Meet the Press.

Remember, this is the same outlet that censored Bush 43's infamous "I don't testify" declaration.

tblue37

(65,328 posts)
31. Well, they can't completely sweep it under the rug because Letterman is ON IT*.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:32 PM
Sep 2014

And Letterman is on CBS, so he doesn't have to pull punches where an NBC idiot is concerned.

Furthermore, he had way more viewers than the leftish programs, and his viewers are more diverse, so he isn't just preaching to the choir.
___

* According to the Letterman segment, that Chuck Todd crap program section is actually called "Chuck Todd On It."

blm

(113,043 posts)
35. Pretty sad state for broadcast news. Too bad for us Dave will be leaving soon.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:41 PM
Sep 2014

Stewart and Colbert, perhaps?

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
32. NBC = Faux Lite
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:34 PM
Sep 2014



But I'm not so sure about the "Lite" part any more.


I'm watching Dave tonight to see if he has any more to say about Chuckie and RNC NBC.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
34. Simple solution
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:41 PM
Sep 2014

turn off all of them. Get your information from sources you trust on the internet and be done with what they jokingly refer to as news programs.

blm

(113,043 posts)
37. I don't turn to 'news' programs for news. I monitor to hear what MOST voters
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:51 PM
Sep 2014

will end up hearing through their exposure to broadcast 'news', and, in order to better fight the corporate-induced 'perception' being shaped to affect our electoral outcomes.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
41. They didn't fire Gregory because of ratings
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:17 PM
Sep 2014

they fired him because he wasn't selling the corporate line well enough.
Looks to me like Chucky is off and running at selling the corporate line.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
42. K&R for EXPOSURE
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:19 PM
Sep 2014

Ed just came on, so we'll see today. If he, Rachel or Lawrence don't comment on the gaffe today, then the fix was in from the get-go. Check for Jon Stewart & Stephen Cobert (unless they are on vacation?) I expect they (the MSNBC crowd) won't, as word probably came down from on NBC High to not open their traps about it.

It really was example of how surreal Corporate M$M is now. Stupid Chuck Todd, sitting there interviewing the President of the United States of America. And of course PO was the gentleman and didn't make light of Chuck's gaffe. He didn't need to. It was all on tape. Anyone with a brain in their head could see the comedy of the situation.

David Letterman's clip last night nailed the whole situation. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, there's a link to it in the following post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025507940

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
43. Question is: Why did Chuck Todd and MSNBC think they could get away with it?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:22 PM
Sep 2014

They doctor an interview with the President and boldly put it out there on their debut show?

Why did they think they could get away with it? What about the President's Staff? Why are they not pressuring Todd and MSNBC. And if they don't issue an apology then what does that mean?

Any thoughts?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
45. Its time for the WH and the rest of the administration from...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 06:06 PM
Sep 2014

giving them anything. If NBC wants to be FOX then f--k them.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
46. Yep. It is why we read. So we can know the truth. Or as close as we can get these days.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:28 PM
Sep 2014

MSNBC is left however when compared to Fox. Just like many of our elected leaders are left when compared to the craziest people the right can drudge up.
For those of us who read and don't rely on TV. They all end up sounding like moderate republicans at best.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
50. Did they criticize it before?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:06 PM
Sep 2014

I don't recall MSNBC talking heads complain about Tim Russert's or David Gregory's MTP performances. Have I missed something?

liberalla

(9,238 posts)
52. I'd be very surprised to hear any of the MSNBC folk criticize Chuck Todd...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:03 AM
Sep 2014

They (and other networks) have policies about that sort of thing, I'm sure.

Except... would SNL be able to get away with it? He would be a rich source of material for them.

** I would love to read the interoffice memorandums and emails regarding his POOR performance... and some of the big wigs have probably called him in to 'evaluate' the strengths and weaknesses and mistakes... right?

They need to have someone with a brain and a world-view (instead of just a gop view), go over every topic, segment, and question he asks. He shouldn't ever be trusted to "wing it" and just talk on his own. Somehow, they've got to muzzle the stoopid on him.

blm

(113,043 posts)
53. His corporate bosses likely approved of his asinine performance.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 08:34 AM
Sep 2014

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