I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today would last five days, or five weeks,or 5 months

[J_J_]

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat.


Now what is the message there? The message is that there are known "knowns." There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.



Sound familiar?

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. The first part of Rumsfeld statement is "known knowns" not "no knowns."

Jeez. At least get the tired comparison quote right.

[J_J_]

3. sorry

copied from wiki

[RandiFan1290]

2. What would war with Iraq cost?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/01/sproject.irq.war.cost

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House is downplaying published reports of an estimated $50 billion to $60 billion price tag for a war with Iraq, saying it is "impossible" to estimate the cost at this time.

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mitch Daniels told The New York Times in an interview published Tuesday that such a conflict could cost $50 billion to $60 billion -- the price tag of the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

But Trent Duffy, an OMB spokesman, said Daniels did not intend to imply in the Times interview that $50 billion to $60 billion was a hard White House estimate.

"He said it could -- could -- be $60 billion," Duffy said. "It is impossible to know what any military campaign would ultimately cost. The only cost estimate we know of in this arena is the Persian Gulf War, and that was a $60 billion event."

[J_J_]

4. Don't worry, the war will pay for itself!

n/t

[J_J_]

5. I cannot believe that we are waiting on Obama to announce another war

Time for the American people to stand together and say NO!



"I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025510601

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Can we expect another deluge of candy and flowers from the inhabitants?

Or, just more pissed off people at our efforts to "help"?

[J_J_]

7. the media showed the bombing of Iraq like it was a pretty fireworks show

Forgot to show the millions killed, maimed, tortured, born with birth defects


But we are now expected to believe that the corporate media and the corporate politicians really care about Iraqis and want to help. Sure.