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kpete

(71,962 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:03 PM Sep 2014

The only threat to America is the threat being generated by Americans.

“I went to jail for 11 days for disturbing the peace; I was trying to disturb the war.”
-- Joan Baez

[font color=red]We are being propagandized to literal death[/font]

You've already given up everything from the privacy of your phone calls and emails to the ability to take some shampoo on the road. Don't get out the checkbook to buy more nonsense.


Please, people, root through your old VHS tapes and unearth your copy of Wargames. Now, fast forward to the end where you can hear the wisdom of a computer with the brain power of an old Atari cartridge: the only winning move, is not to play. Let the assholes feed on each other for a change.

The only threat to America is the threat being generated by Americans.

I'd very much like to think that the president will address the nation with the immortal phrase, "grow up." But no, that's not going to happen. Instead, we're going to act because, God help us all, the people demand action. The media demands action. And of of course Congress needs action so it knows what it's against.

Just a little thought: did anyone bother to ask the families of those journalists who were used as propaganda tools by the terrorists in order to generate just this reaction, if they think this is what either of those journalists would have wanted? If the families feel this is an appropriate memorial to the genuinely brave men who were lost?


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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/10/1328590/-My-fellow-Americans-please-stop-being-idiots
http://www.worldbeyondwar.org/isis/?can_id=7954504b5b3d7c0cefb7ce3864d62e15&source=email-the-time-to-oppose-war-is-now&referrer=david-swanson-2&email_referrer=the-time-to-oppose-war-is-now
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The only threat to America is the threat being generated by Americans. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2014 OP
Is isolationism the best thing for us? upaloopa Sep 2014 #1
engagement doesn't have to always be military. cali Sep 2014 #2
Just for you: kpete Sep 2014 #3
And what are they prepared to do? upaloopa Sep 2014 #4

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Is isolationism the best thing for us?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:17 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder if what goes on in the rest of the world effects us or not. Is it a safe bet to ignore it and mind our own businesses at home?
I don't want to be the world's police force but I think we need to work with allies to have a hand in the game.
I think we need a standing coalition of countries with like goals so that it isn't only our treasure on the line every time.
I think that is what Obama is going to say tonight.
Isolationism is not a realistic option for us.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. engagement doesn't have to always be military.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:19 PM
Sep 2014

and those coalitions have clearly been largely bullshit.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. And what are they prepared to do?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:48 PM
Sep 2014

Do you ever get around to that?
It is easy to say we are at fault we need to do this or that. You are presuming the world will react as you hope given your actions. They may not.
I agree if it is only your ass on the line. You can afford to hang it out on a limb. If the limb breaks only you fall.
It takes a leader to have the foresight to make the decisions that are in the best interest of us all.
Obama has more on the line than you do.

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