- * - I Am REALLY Disappointed by Obama's Address Tonight - * -

[NYC_SKP]

Oh.

Shit.

I hit "Post my thread" button a little too soon.



I'll bet Chuck Todd and bloggers everywhere have already written the bulk of their comments in reaction to Obama's address.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017214394

[Cali_Democrat]

1. All the pundits agree

Obama's speech is going to be a disaster.

You gotta be impressed with the media though. Their ISIS fear mongering seems to be affecting public opinion. Now many more Americans want to get involved in the ISIS clusterfuck.

[Louisiana1976]

27. Well said.

[yuiyoshida]

37. They probably got their blogs written already..and hey...

The President didn't even mention SYRIA yet..... (CHECKS watch)

[The Magistrate]

2. Cold But Fair, Sir

[KoKo]

57. The Pundits get the Pre-Speech it was out on "Bloomberg Business" this Morning...

So...it's all done before and there wasn't much in the short speech except what was predicted.

I did think that "Cold but Fair" did apply to the Speech itself, though...although you were referring to the OP's Post in your reply, I believe.

There is a bit of Obama that is often cold or distanced (may be better word) which smacks of his maybe inward view of "keep your hands clean...and don't reveal anything that could affect your career or your wife and children after you leave the Oval Office." Just do what you have to do...making sure you "do what your military/political advisers prescribe...keep nose clean and you will do well afterwards." Can't blame him for that...given what he walked into.

His exceptional Legal training at Harvard and the impartial distancing that Lawyers are trained to develop...plus a bit of looking forward to life AFTER his Presidency... (rather than constrictions of the moment at hand) would lead him to caution and a reticence/reluctance to revealing any depth of conviction or principle he might have had when he ran for President in 2008...if that was so with him at that time.

If one has to follow Dick Cheney as a "Second Act" when giving a Presidential Speech.. then, although we know that a Democratic President was Elected... In Truth....we still are dealing with the Cheney/McCain/Neocon/Corporate/Global Wall Steet Controlled Presidency and he is the "sit in" to do the Social Programs....but, the WARS belong to the GLOBAL /WALL STREET/MIC/Think Tanks and other Corporate Interests who Fund our Presidents and Congress these days.

Not much changes but nuances. We Dems are pretty good with the Social Stuff.. But we likes our Wars/Interventions for our Global Business Interests/Trade/ Oil & Mineral Interests..... TOO MUCH!....imho. But, then, some of us have lived with this since JFK so we should be used to it. Others of us had had enough of it and want change.

Just a thought...

[Voice for Peace]

66. hmmm

There is a bit of Obama that is often cold or distanced (may be better word) which smacks of his maybe inward view of "keep your hands clean...and don't reveal anything that could affect your career or your wife and children after you leave the Oval Office." Just do what you have to do...making sure you "do what your military/political advisers prescribe...keep nose clean and you will do well afterwards." Can't blame him for that...given what he walked into.

This is such a curious imagination, to me, of Obama's inner life.
I don't want to suggest it is some kind of projection on your part,
but that's usually what's going on.

If I were to imagine his inner thoughts it would be a completely
different tale; however, it would most likely be similar to my
own thinking, or my projectile imaginings -- not necessarily even
within a million miles of reality.

[bigdarryl]

3. Obama should do what Mike Tyson did

Tell all the republicans and pundits FUCK YOU

[Jamastiene]

59. Actually, I would prefer if President Obama never did anything Mike Tyson did,

just because Mike Tyson is such a fucking low class scumbag. I'd prefer if Obama stays well above that level. He could still tell them FUCK YOU in his own way, of course. That would actually be better.

[liberal N proud]

4. The criticisms are already written

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. Greatest Page for your post, my dear NYC_SKP!

[NYC_SKP]

34. Thanks, darlin'!

I had a moment of inspiration. Looking forward to the address which, happily for us, will be much earlier than 9:00 pm.

Thus leaving time for dinner at, what, Carrows? I'm eligible for the "special prices" yanno!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Who could argue with "GRAAAAAAH!"? NT

[mcar]

7. Boehner has already pronounced it a failure

And is criticizing the President's plan.

[dickthegrouch]

9. I heard Boehner wanted Congress to approve

But the news report wasn't clear exactly what the red one wanted approved.

I want Congress to approve a financing and staffing plan BEFORE they approve any action.

[arcane1]

8. He didn't even mention Syria!!

[conservaphobe]

10. I CAN'T BELIEVE HE USED [INSERT WORD OR PHRASE HERE]...

(OBLIGATORY COMPARISON TO BUSH)

(RIPS TIE-DYE SHIRT AND DOES A SANCTIMONIOUS SONG AND DANCE AROUND THE CAMPFIRE)

[bvf]

12. We seem to be on the same page! n/t.

[bvf]

11. They've already gotten the templates in place, at least

with some placeholders to fill in, like "Obama didn't mention 《subject》, and "Despite his 《pejorative term》 delivery. . ."

You know--like a tot's coloring book with Crayola talking points.

[TBF]

14. Just like the Sarah Palin coloring book -

look it up on Amazon.com (and read the comments - hilarious!)

[Proud Liberal Dem]

42. "What took him so long?"

Somebody will say it.

[progressoid]

13. He'd better talk about Bengaaaaaazi!!1

[bvf]

18. And address the whole Bergdahl thing

to everyone's satisfaction.

The responses certainly will be interesting. Like a boil is interesting.

[sheshe2]

15. ^^^ DUzy ^^^

[KittyWampus]

16. I just pray to god he doesn't wear a TAN SUIT!

[progressoid]

19. He needs to make a bold statement...

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[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. Is that Chuck Todd in his younger days?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

67. That hurt my eyes

Thanks.

[Iliyah]

21. LOL - how about a light blue suit with a pink tie!

No matter what he says or does GOP and corporate media will be doing the opposite.

[freshwest]

35. No! I want to see them melt at the sight of it and hope he wears brown shoes, too!

[HubertHeaver]

39. He needs to wear tan shoes

with pink shoelaces.

and a polka-dot vest.

and a big Panama with a purple hat-band.


That should get them rolling.

[bvf]

55. How about

full Gangsta regalia just to mess with the Tea Party's head?

I'm thinking of an old short story by Chris Miller called "Telejester" here, if anyone's wondering.

On edit: Seriously, I think he did a great job in trying to drag Congress along by the ear. Show what cowards a lot of them are.

[OilemFirchen]

17. I'm so concerned...

I didn't even wake up tomorrow.

[riqster]

25. You know what it says on the Bluesman's tombstone ?

"I didn't wake up this mornin'."

[KeepItReal]

20. He's gonna "lead from behind" and "not mention Syria" and "not realize this is war"

M$M and the GOP are a joke.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. You got THAT right....

The ink is long dry on the response before he even says a word.

[Louisiana1976]

29. Right on!

[Fred Sanders]

32. The mass media will have "instant analysis" within seconds....shredding all meaning of "analysis".

[Rex]

23. Of course they have, they have little interest in real investigative journalism.

Good call, you are 100% correct.

[Ineeda]

24. Goldilocks Syndrome

without the 'just right' option.

[VanillaRhapsody]

26. Oh and don't forget....its all just a distraction from BenGaZEEEEEEEEEE!

[Cha]

28. Others have beat you to this all week long.. somebody had a transcript of a bush speech here

last night.. acting like it was President Obama's.. all chucky todd and shit.

[kardonb]

30. disappointd

you can please some of the people sometime . but you cannot please all of the people all of the time !

[rocktivity]

31. Yeah, but will Chuck Todd REMEMBER

that he'd already written it?


rocktivity

[Aerows]

33. *SOME* of the President's policies annoy me

but a measured response to waging war will never be one of them. I love him for that. He doesn't wade into deep waters without looking then wonder if he can swim back.

[freshwest]

36. Now we know what it takes to get into the Trending Now part of the DU Home Page!

[minivan2]

38. The lame stream media doen't care about what Obama says.

They just care about getting viewers.

[pinboy3niner]

40. All signs point to a complete flop

Oh, wait...that's Jerry the tapir signaling his turn.

[NYC_SKP]

41. "This Tapir Makes Wide Turns"...

May as well just pull over and grab a latte!

[msanthrope]

43. Hmmm...I wonder if this will give the usual DUer Terminally Disappointeds

some pause. I doubt it.

[NYC_SKP]

44. Well, they've already posted their conclusions. Some were posted yesterday.

Inspiration for this post, as a general counterpoint.

[msanthrope]

45. Yeah...those threads are amusing, but I was hoping to head off the rants

usually posted within 30 seconds of the President leaving the podium.

[KoKo]

47. I heard Dick Cheney gave the Pre-Speech...but, he didn't wear his Black Hat

and didn't show up in a Wheel Chair like he did as the Dark Angel at Obama's Inauguration. Rachel Maddow really did a job on it. But, I just turned it on to see that...and then the ads took over...but Rachel is in an out with Milton Friedman's Wife chiming in and then Rev. Al...discussing it all before he's spoken.

[NYC_SKP]

48. I just caught that too on Chris Hayes, passing off to Rachel and here we go.

Here we go!



Leading an international coalition.

Airstrikes.

Syria or Iraq, threaten America and there will be no safe haven.

1: Teams w/o combat missions will train and support friendlies.

2: Call on congress for authority and resources. Yay!

3: Continue counterterrorism measures and strategies.

4: Humanitarian Assistance.

Steady relentless effort, working with partners, Yemen and Somalia as examples.

Despite these shocks, America is positioned to seize the future. Ha!

"That is the difference we make in the world"....

Good job!

[OilemFirchen]

58. Milton Friedman's wife died in 2009.

Must be an interesting "out".

[Major Hogwash]

49. It's go time!!

Let's see if they can preview the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election!

[NYC_SKP]

50. He's actually EDUCATING US! Arrrrggghhhh!

"ISIL is neither Islamic nor a state".

Oh No He Dint!!!

[msanthrope]

51. He's refusing to put US Troops in a combat role! Damn him!! nt

[NYC_SKP]

52. Wants Congressional support???? WTF????

[msanthrope]

53. Telling Assad to go take a hike? Supporting the Kurds?

WTF????

[KoKo]

54. Don't worry we are Killing All the Bad Guys...But...this is Not our Fight Alone!

We can't take the place of Iraqi's or other forces in the Region.. But, America will lead a Broad Coalition to Fight back

We will Degrade and Destroy ISIL with Iraqi Forces (the ones who caved) and we will TAKE THEM OUT IN SYRIA....

We will increase our support to those fighting on the Ground. The Teams have completed their work and we will keep sending forces to Train, Support Itelligence and other Operations ...but, they won't be Ground Troops but we need to Fund Them with (our tax dollars).

We must strengthen our Counter Terrorism Forces to Prevent ISIL Attacks. We will cut off their Funding...etc.

He will Convene the UN to Intervene...and he will protect the other Sects.

He says we have a BROAD COALITION of FORCES. (Where are they? Have they been shown bombing on CNN? I don't watch MSM) He says we Stand with People who Fight for their Own Freedom.

He says he has the Authority to do what he has to do to Fight ISIL but he Welcomes Support from Congress.

Says Risks to Service Men and Women but it WILL NOT INVOLVE "Forces on the Ground"...but just Air Strikes and "what we have on the ground" (CIA). BUT...we have PARTNERS.

WE LIVE IN A TIME OF GREAT CHANGE..AMERICANS......Despite these Shocks America is Better Positioned to Achieve with our Business and Stock Markets and the Rest all of it as a Result of American Leadership and Resources.

Then he Attacks Puntin and Russia over Ukraine as an enemy.

America has Endless Blessings and we Lead across the world ....Standing for Freedom, Justice and Dignity.

He asks for our Support and he does so as "Commander in Chief" and Praises our Military and gives Anecdotes of suffering Serviceperson..

We Make a Difference in the World because we are Upholding the Values that We Stand for after!

Broad American Leadership.

I couldn't click fast enough to get it all ...it's just what he said which most of our Presidents have Said in Times of War....Heard it from Bush on Back whenever USA does an Invasion or Action. ......It is what it is.

It was short, quick and whatever.

[LordGlenconner]

56. If only your comment was as brief

I kid I kid.

[RoccoR5955]

60. Just what we need.

Another damn war.

Why don't we just get the hell off of fossil fuels, so that we don't need the Middle East.
This is all about profits for oil companies, and as nothing to do with you and me.

When are we going to learn that violence only begets violence?

How many children and other innocent people are going to be turned into chopped meat because of our actions, and how many more terrorists will THAT breed.

The ONLY thing that will work, is to make these tribes in the Middle East insignificant, and let them have their goddamn oil.
We need a Manhattan Project style affair to get renewable energy for EVERYONE. Then, and only then can we be rid of this.

[JimDandy]

71. Agree 100%. Endless f______ war, and from Obama too. Damn.

[humbled_opinion]

61. I predicted this weeks ago....

Down the rabbit hole we go, aren't our leaders supposed to be wise as well as strong? There is very little wisdom in doing what we are doing. The Neocons poison spread by the media has now infected everyone.....

Glad I got my innoculation after I saw what the last President did....

No way no how do I support this murderous war.... NOT IN MY NAME Mr. President.... NOT IN MY NAME...

Peace!!

[In_The_Wind]

62. Kickin' it!

[NYC_SKP]

63. "He didn't give any details!" "He exposed his strategies!" "OMG, that TIE!!!"

[ffr]

64. I love this part about having elected Democrats

If the RWNJ media is unhappy, then the country must be on the right track.

Keep electing Democrats and let's keep our country moving forward.

GOTV November 2014!

[NYC_SKP]

65. GOTV!!! No small part of the speech was to strengthen the Democratic brand for 2014.

Haters gonna hate, the people crapping on Obama right now on this board would be crapping no matter what he said.

He knows that.

We look strong now, we look strong on election day!

[Iliyah]

68. In my opinion you are correct.

Many of the posters who constantly find and bash every thing about Pres O and or Dems will not vote for Dems anyway.

GOTV!
I believe that's the purpose of the hatred, and I believe most of them trolls other sites, b/c I read the same hatred talking points. Jesus Christ would not approve the GOP party.

[Docross]

69. ISIS and...Israel

So what does ISIS think of Israel’s existence?

Lamb says jihadist recruiters working with a claimed new specialized DAASH unit organized at the beginning of 2013 are

“focusing exclusively on destroying the Zionist regime occupying Palestine." .... Israel

” DAASH’s “Al Quds Unit” (AQU) is currently working to broaden its influence in more than 60 Palestinian camps and gatherings from Gaza, across Occupied Palestine, to Jordan, and Lebanon up to the north of Syria seeking to enlist support as it prepares to “liberate” Palestine.


Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/isis-plans-destroy-zionist-regime-israel-nukes-necessary/#2dqXtsBHJOeq36st.99

[Turbineguy]

70. ISIS is going to use

the Palestinian strategery to obtain happiness?

Yeah, like that's been working for years.