To Obama Haters:Actual Evidence of Obama’s Achievements Shows You’re on the Wrong Side of History—

[sheshe2]

To Obama Haters: The Actual Evidence of Obama’s Achievements Shows You’re on the Wrong Side of History— Again

November 19, 2013 by Frank Schaeffer



There are Obama haters aplenty, have been from Day One: Snooty left wingers have offered advice he should have, could have, would have followed to success if the president had just listened to his white betters in the media. Hate-filled right wing bigots have jostled to be the loudest claiming Obama isn’t a “real American,” not one of us, from somewhere else, a liar, a communist, a Muslim, the anti-Christ… and that’s just a start.

Economists have lined up on all sides to predict his policies would fail, that we were headed for depression, world economic collapse, and higher unemployment. Hawks told us the president was giving in to terror, maybe he was a terrorist himself. Doves told us he’s a mass murderer, using drones to target the innocent.


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The Religious Right also tells us that the president is a baby-killer, wants to destroy marriage, hates families, and is in league with a global gay conspiracy to coddle pedophiles. Speaking of pedophiles, the Roman Catholic bishops – when not busy with settling lawsuits on behalf of abused children their priests raped – have told us that the president is anti-religion, anti-Catholic and anti-religious freedom, all because he hasn’t kowtowed to them and insisted that women are given full health coverage, including access to contraception.

The president has only been forced to tell one untruth, and it’s not that everyone could keep their coverage irrespective of how bad their so-called insurance was. That was a misstatement. It’s this: He’s never been able to say that the bitterness of his opponents stems from the fact he’s black. Not everyone who opposes the president is a racist. But race embarrasses us. We try not to mention it. We pretend we’re a less race-divided country than we are.


Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frankschaeffer/2013/11/to-obama-haters-the-actual-evidence-of-obamas-achievements-shows-youre-on-the-wrong-side-of-history-again/#ixzz3CxEDxumA

That goes for Tavis Smiley, Cornell West:

Cornel West, Tavis Smiley and the Cattiness of Slandering President Obama

As a black academic at a fine institution of higher learning, I have constantly tried to overlook the repeatedly blatant verbal shots thrown at President Barack Obama. Many Republican politicians and conservative media critics have taken to attacking almost everything about Obama from his ethnicity, scholarship and ethics to his wife and children. And while many of these remarks can cross racially insensitive boundaries, there has been a trend of spotlighting black scholars who criticize the president and this often creates buzz. But more often than not, the two black intellectuals who stand to grasp the most limelight for taking spiteful jabs at President Obama are Cornel West and Tavis Smiley.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ernest-owens/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-_1_b_3649934.html

Now Michael Moore who claims Obama will only be known for being President while Black. Yes a lot of Obama hate out there, nothing the black man does is ever good enough. This is what is coming from the left. No need to say what the right is saying, it's just as bad, if not worse.

[Fred Sanders]

1. Cromwell West is not a serious voice for any kind of folk.

[sheshe2]

2. No, he is not, Fred.

Sadly he has become a vain man that feels that the President snubbed him. Wounded ego at best.

[Fred Sanders]

15. I think our armchair psychoanalysis is very near the truth....Obama saw through him.

Now he is the willing foil of all types of media, he gets regular airtime because he is an intellectual who does not have the common sense to keep his wounded feelings to himself.

[leftstreet]

3. You can find Obama's management ineffectual without hating him

Seems to me

[sheshe2]

51. Yes, that is very true.

Yet you cannot deny the unprecedented hate that is hurled at this man and his family. The disrespect when a member of congress yells out "You Lie" at SOTU. I was shocked. Then a member of the SCOTUS shook his head and mouthed no at SOTU.

There has never ever been such disrespect shown to any sitting President. Send me the links to prove me wrong.

Here are mine.

Justice Alito mouths 'not true' - POLITICO Live: Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

January 27, 2010
Categories: State of the Union
Justice Alito mouths 'not true'

POLITICO's Kasie Hunt, who's in the House chamber, reports that Justice Samuel Alito mouthed the words "not true" when President Barack Obama criticized the Supreme Court's campaign finance decision.

"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections," Obama said. "Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that’s why I’m urging Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to right this wrong."

The shot of the black-robed Supreme Court justices, stone-faced, was priceless.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) stood up behind the justices and clapped vigorously while Alito shook his head and quietly mouthed his discontent.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0110/Justice_Alitos_You_lie_moment.html#

Do you believe they had the right to say that to this President during the SOTU? Do you believe a SCOTUS who is supposed to be impartial has a right to voice his politics at SOTU?

[Phlem]

53. Oh no you can't!

not around here!

FFS

[freshwest]

4. I'll get back to this. Thanks, Sheshe.

[sheshe2]

6. You are welcome freshwest.

Talk to you later.

[Cha]

5. Good on you, she.. getting it all out on why Michael Moore is so full of

bullshit.. he's giving Bullshit Mountain(fox "news&quot a run for their money. Propaganda ratfucking from the so-called "left".

Not only is MM full of it.. he's exposed himself as a racist piece of shit.. attempting to reduce President Obama to just a Black President.

Of course he's a "disappointment" to MM .. Bush was big buck$ in his bank account..

A hundred years from now President Obama will be remembered for his achievements and racists like Michael Moore will be on the junk pile of history.

[sheshe2]

9. It pissed me off!

So sick of those that believe they are better than this President.

Listen to ME! Listen to ME! It's all about ME!

There are Obama haters aplenty, have been from Day One: Snooty left wingers have offered advice he should have, could have, would have followed to success if the president had just listened to his white betters in the media. Hate-filled right wing bigots have jostled to be the loudest claiming Obama isn’t a “real American,” not one of us,

There is another Op here, about how this President was denied golf time over Labor Day weekend. The golf course is for the elite of the elite, owned by none other than Donald Birther Trump.

Holy Cha!

[Cha]

13. So glad when you got pissed you did something about like this, she! WARNING: UGLY PIC ALERT..

I haven't seen the trump thing here .. the first thing I saw was kpete's thread on Michael Moore..

But, I had seen something on TOD about trump saying "when Obama resigns he'll be glad to let him play on any of his golf courses."

I had no idea what that was about.. smh And, who is the big loser here? Rofl

[sheshe2]

17. Surfing the wave!

The Donald is always flapping his hair and/ or his lips.

Wipe out!

Thanks Cha!

[napkinz]

7. let's not forget ---->

[sheshe2]

12. My reaction, napkinz.

[napkinz]

14. the RACIST Republicans set out to -- CONSPIRED to -- undermine him and the nation from DAY ONE!

Doesn't Michael Moore get it?????

[sheshe2]

19. No he does not get it.

Nor do some here, it's sad really. Obama was suppose to do this on his own, no support from Repukes and Baggers. Left adrift from his party.

From my link:

The president has only been forced to tell one untruth, and it’s not that everyone could keep their coverage irrespective of how bad their so-called insurance was. That was a misstatement. It’s this: He’s never been able to say that the bitterness of his opponents stems from the fact he’s black. Not everyone who opposes the president is a racist. But race embarrasses us. We try not to mention it. We pretend we’re a less race-divided country than we are.

The president can’t say that because then on top of everything else he’d be accused of being an angry black man. Pundits like to tell us how well Tip O’Neill and Ronald Reagan got on and worked together. Why can’t the president be like that? The two Irish-Americans on opposite sides of the issues back in the good old days were both white, that’s why. One of them wasn’t facing a party of obstruction and hatred so irrational they would risk the entire world economy to make a point, that’s why!

- See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frankschaeffer/2013/11/to-obama-haters-the-actual-evidence-of-obamas-achievements-shows-youre-on-the-wrong-side-of-history-again/#ixzz3CxEDxumA

[sheshe2]

62. No he doesn't...

Nor do some here, napkinz.

[napkinz]

65. they should read the following ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html

[sheshe2]

66. Yes, I read that...

perhaps they should too. Not that it will make any difference to them. It's blind hate 24/7. If he laid the proverbial golden egg some here would just complain that it wasn't big enough.

[deafskeptic]

61. That was my reaction as well...

I wanted to lobby a bomb at the congress for obstruction and lack of progress.

[underpants]

8. Great read ( from a year ago) but I have a question "born again Christian"???

I particularly like this:

President Obama remains the most intellectually and emotionally even-tempered and best equipped President we have had in the modern era.

[sheshe2]

20. A year ago, I know underpants, yet nothing has changed and has gotten worse.

Frank Schaeffer has come a long way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer

On October 10, 2008, a public letter to Senator John McCain and Sarah Palin from Schaeffer was published in the Baltimore Sun newspaper.[8] The letter contained an impassioned plea for McCain to arrest what Schaeffer perceived as a hateful and prejudiced tone of the Republican Party's election campaign. Schaeffer was convinced that there was a pronounced danger that fringe groups in America could be goaded into pursuing violence. "If you do not stand up for all that is good in America and declare that Senator Obama is a patriot, fit for office, and denounce your hate-filled supporters ... history will hold you responsible for all that follows."[8]

Soon after Obama's inauguration, Schaeffer criticized Republican leaders:
How can anyone who loves our country support the Republicans now?

Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley and Ronald Reagan defined the modern conservatism that used to be what the Republican Party I belonged to was about. Today no actual conservative can be a Republican. Reagan would despise today's wholly negative Republican Party.[4]

[napkinz]

10. ...

[napkinz]

11. ...

[sheshe2]

21. Dayum!

Those are perfect! That says it all napkinz!

[Cha]

54. Yeah, let's get some reality in here.. of exactly what this President has had to deal

with as "the Black President" as Michael Freaking Moore calls him. But, he won't be remembered as being Black, MM.. he'll be remembered for his achievements which in your ignorance willful or otherwise you know nothing about.

Thank you, napkinz!

[napkinz]

64. it was a real CONSPIRACY to destroy him; they actually met & conspired the night of the inauguration

Robert Draper Book: GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration

WASHINGTON -- As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington.

The event -- which provides a telling revelation for how quickly the post-election climate soured -- serves as the prologue of Robert Draper's much-discussed and heavily-reported new book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives."

According to Draper, the guest list that night (which was just over 15 people in total) included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith. Notably absent were Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) -- who, Draper writes, had an acrimonious relationship with Luntz.

For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama's legislative platform.

read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html

[Cha]

67. Yes, I know.. they're so viciously stupid.

thank you for the link, napkinz~

[napkinz]

16. ...

[napkinz]

18. Michael Moore, have you been paying attention for the past six years???

[sheshe2]

26. The first few pictures hurt my soul. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

30. me too, she

:'(


K&R for a great thread, in its entirety.

[sheshe2]

36. Hugs to you Blanche.

Thank you.

[napkinz]

72. OMG ... the latest --->

Texas Gun Shop Sign Suggests ‘Change’ Won’t Happen Unless an Obama Family Member Is Beheaded

September 11, 2014
by Josh Kilburn

http://aattp.org/texas-gun-shop-sign-suggests-change-wont-happen-unless-an-obama-family-member-is-beheaded/

[BlindTiresias]

22. Facile analysis

[sheshe2]

24. No.

It is not superficial analysis. It's fact and there is so much history out there to support it!

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

23. As far as I can tell the anti-Obama "progressives" were hoping for somebody like...

Robert Mugabe or Hugo Chavez.

[Cad Bane]

31. No they wanted someone more like George Bush or Sarah Palin

A swaggering dumbass that would fill their emotional need to be lead and pandered to.

It's why they gravitate towards loudmouth fools like Greenwald, Cenk, Hamsher etc.

They wanted a "progressive" Rush Limbaugh in the white house. Feeding them red meat.

Ironically if you dig deeper you'll find that many of these "progressives" are just "former" Republicans who have rebranded themselves as uber leftists.

You'll notice how whenever they have an issue with Democrats not being "left" enough they go deep into the right wing shit pile and pull out assholes like Rand Paul to hold up in our face.

[NorthCarolina]

39. LOL

Put down the bong.

[Dragonfli]

58. It is considered axiomatic that progressive want progressive policies

The right wing does not offer such policies, so your ramblings are as absurd as they are transparent. Progressives do not want conservative policies, only Republicans and fiscal right leaning conservatives that have infiltrated the party since Reagan want those things. I understand if you need to hide your conservative leanings via projection, but you really should do so in a less transparent fashion.

Yes it is true that progressives criticize conservative fiscal policies as not being "left enough" but you will not find them criticizing progressive social policies that such rightist Democrats offer as a cloak to hide their conservatism, after all it is those social policies that make their evil the "lesser" one.

I can only assume you are young and do not realize that there is more to liberal values than social policies alone and that liberal fiscal values once made this country financially sound (before the party adopted the Chicago school of economics alongside the Republicans).

[onecaliberal]

25. They hate the color of his skin

That is evidenced by the fact they will abandon and demonize their own ideas once POTUS voices support.

[stupidicus]

27. who knew hate was the sole source of/motive for criticisms?

Maybe Mr Strawman drowning in the pool of false dilemmas?

personally I think he'll be remembered most for this http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/obama-and-climate-change-the-real-story-20131217?page=2 a hundred years from now.

Just because MM may be wrong about BHO being remembered solely for being the first black pres -- as I think he is -- doesn't mean that he necessarily hates him, much less because he's black.

[sheshe2]

40. Really? Oh Please!

This all happened in 6 years? Really?

Actually, of course, "the problem" is that climate change is spiraling out of control. Under Obama we've had the warmest year in American history – 2012 – featuring a summer so hot that corn couldn't grow across much of the richest farmland on the planet. We've seen the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded north of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and the largest wind field ever measured, both from Hurricane Sandy. We've watched the Arctic melt, losing three quarters of its summer sea ice. We've seen some of the largest fires ever recorded in the mountains of California, Colorado and New Mexico. And not just here, of course – his term has seen unprecedented drought and flood around the world. The typhoon that just hit the Philippines, according to some meteorologists, had higher wind speeds at landfall than any we've ever seen. When the world looks back at the Obama years half a century from now, one doubts they'll remember the health care website; one imagines they'll study how the most powerful government on Earth reacted to the sudden, clear onset of climate change.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/obama-and-climate-change-the-real-story-20131217?page=2#ixzz3Cy1A9XFb
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

OMG! Obama is responsible for years of climate change. Got it.

[stupidicus]

59. was that what I posted

or the point made by the article?

No.

He, like all those before him in the age of AGW awareness, will be judged harshly for his record (which the article covered well to the date of its posting) on the matter and remembered most for it. OMG!!! BHO's not responsible for his AGW record? Got it.

But thanks for conceding MM doesn't need to hate BHO to criticize him. I do it all the time and I don't hate or love him.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Fixed.

"the two three black intellectuals who stand to grasp the most limelight for taking spiteful jabs at President Obama are Dr. Ben Carson, Cornel West and Tavis Smiley."

[sheshe2]

33. Thanks, BRTS.

Conservative Hero Dr. Ben Carson



Fox News contributor and retired neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson on Monday compared American society to Nazi Germany.

"I mean, [our society is] very much like Nazi Germany," Carson told Breitbart News, after declaring that we were living in a "Gestapo age." "And I know you're not supposed to say 'Nazi Germany,' but I don't care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe."

As the grandson of a Holocaust survivor who lived through Kristallnacht and as an American who just watched someone criticize his country without being thrown in jail, I have to disagree. Dr. Carson, who finished third in last weekend's CPAC presidential straw poll, doesn't have the foggiest clue what he's talking about.

And to prove it, I'm not even going to go tattle on him to my nearby Obamacare Enforcement Officer.

And yes, in case any conservative Carson fans should stumble across this post, that last line is a joke. There is no such thing as an Obamacare Enforcement Officer. Then again, if there were, would you really expect me to admit it?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/12/1284147/-Conservative-hero-Ben-Carson-says-U-S-is-very-much-like-Nazi-Germany#

Hey, Ben

[madokie]

29. You know She

I take a lot of pride in knowing I was one of the earliest members around here who were calling them out for the racist jackasses they are.

[sheshe2]

42. Well you nailed it early on madokie! Kudos!

Me, I am still a newbie of sorts~ However it doesn't take a blind person to see. Not if you are paying attention. It is smack dab in front of everyone's face. It's denile madokie.

[madokie]

47. Yes it is

I took a lot of flack for it too but you know what, I didn't mind because I knew I was right.

[sheshe2]

49. Good on you madokie!

Right is right and when we fight as one we have might.

President Barack Obama

[madokie]

50. Right is right and when we fight as one we have might.

I like that

[yuiyoshida]

32. I trulythought that Michael Moore

was on our side. Its sad to hear, he is on his own side.

[Skittles]

37. he's on the side of the American people

has been since long before Obama

[NYC_SKP]

41. It's damn tiresome, Skittles. People need to just give it a fucking rest.

What has Moore done lately?

He's like Maher, a sell out, lonely and lazy man.

I'd like to see either of them get out and help the community for a change.

You know them by their acts.

[tabasco]

43. Hear hear!

Sad but true.

[yuiyoshida]

48. but why won't he give the President any credit

other than saying he will be remembered only for being the first black President? That makes me sad.

[Skittles]

52. because he thinks he can do much better

[Phlem]

34. Not this shit again.

[sheshe2]

35. What "shit" are you referring to phlem?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

38. Thank you so much, sheshe2!! You've done it again! :)

KICKED!! RECOMMENDED!! AND FUCKING BOOKMARKED!!!!!!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[sheshe2]

45. He is my President, LS.

I respect him and I support him.

This! It pisses me off! His 'white betters' try to tell him the facts. Fricking bigots and yes racists.

There are Obama haters aplenty, have been from Day One: Snooty left wingers have offered advice he should have, could have, would have followed to success if the president had just listened to his white betters in the media. Hate-filled right wing bigots have jostled to be the loudest claiming Obama isn’t a “real American,” not one of us, from somewhere else, a liar, a communist, a Muslim, the anti-Christ… and that’s just a start.

Thank you LS, I thank you.

[NYC_SKP]

44. Yes, INDEED!

Nice one, kiddo!

[sheshe2]

46. Love you SKP!

Thank you~

[pleinair]

55. k&R n/t

[Major Hogwash]

56. Absolutely.

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They will twist and turn everything President Obama says on its head and then claim that he is worse than Bush.

You would think that they would know better than that now, but they aren't concerned with history.

[sheshe2]

60. Yes the repetition here of

Obama=Bush, pisses me off. I just read on another thread a poster saying that Obama is channeling his inner Cheney.

I find it hard to believe that the people saying these things ever voted for Obama twice. In fact, I doubt they voted for him the first time, MH.

[rhett o rick]

57. Point taken. In fact here is a thread challenging the Feds actions that needs

a perspective from the Administration's side.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025516037

Are the Feds looking to bankrupt local municipalities or do they have a trick up their sleeves?

[colsohlibgal]

63. I Don't Hate The Man At All

He has done some good things. But.....the fact that not one big shot Wall Street executive spent any time in prison for obvious fraud, fraud that crippled so many, is troubling. As is his trying to fast track the awful TPP down our throats.

I worked hard to elect Obama in 2008 then watched sadly as he brought in the Rubin in and out of Goldman crowd as his financial team. That shattered my illusions right away.

I still voted for him in 2012 but that was more voting against Romney.

In the end it could be a lot worse, he just is a lot more "third way" than I prefer, as is Ms. Clinton. My hope is that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders can drag her toward more populist stances. Those two aren't Kucinich or Feingold, they will be much harder for the media to marginalize.

Obama hate is wrong, but so is blind loyalty.

[MohRokTah]

68. BRAVO!

[sheshe2]

69. Thanks Moh!

[napkinz]

70. Kick

nt

[Generic Other]

71. Disagreement is not hate

My only beef with President Obama is that he fights harder to please the GOP at times than he does for us progressives. I can see the GOP have declared war on his presidency, more than any other president since Clinton maybe, but when you are being battered like that, you need to get back in the ring and get in some good punches yourself. Fight harder against the goon squads of the GOP. That was pretty much all any progressives on the left asked.

Unfortunately, now we know our votes count but our views can be dismissed in order to chase after that elusive rightwing approval that no Democrat will ever get, and really shouldn't want anyway.

Hate is an easy word to throw around but much harder to take back. If the Democratic party no longer wants my vote, you and others are doing a great job of conveying that message. You make a Sanders vote sound like the only moral one for 2016.

[napkinz]

73. ...

https://www.facebook.com/FreeThinkersUnitedForChange/photos/a.356233997778432.75828.356232221111943/678461248889037/