Do you agree with Michael Moore that Obama's ONLY accomplishment is being black while in office?

[Cali_Democrat]

"When the history is written of this era, this is how you'll be remembered: he was the first black president," Moore said during a discussion at The Hollywood Reporter's video lounge at the Toronto Film Festival.

"OK, not a bad accomplishment, but that's it," the director said. "That's it, Mr. Obama. 100 years from now, 'he was the first black American that got elected president' and that's it.

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[newcriminal]

1. He said that is all he will be remembered for.

He didn't say that was his ONLY accomplishment. Your OP is dishonest.

[yeoman6987]

6. I don't think Michael meant it the way he said it

I think he was trying to "wake the President" up and get back to progressive issues. Notice the timing.....postpone the immigration reform. I think Michael was speaking with disappointment.

[el_bryanto]

17. Yep - that's accurate. nt

[gratuitous]

24. Quiet, you

We're trying a gut-and-stuff here, and if you point out the difference between Moore's actual remarks and what people want the remarks to say, you fuck everything up.

[leftstreet]

42. +1

[hifiguy]

2. No, he has accomplished some significant things.

But I haven't seen the kind of change I was expecting, either.

By telling Wall $treet he was there to rescue them he burned through a lot of good will with me he could never get back.

[justiceischeap]

3. Here's a link to the video of the actual interview

http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2014/09/watch-michael-moore-lambaste-president-obama-for-disappointing-him/

[Auggie]

4. In 100 years people will be too busy surviving climate change to give a damn

[Louisiana1976]

26. Exactly. Too many climate-caused disasters will be going on for people to care.

[SidDithers]

5. That's like saying Michael Moore's only accomplishment is...

Canadian Bacon.

Sid

[BlindTiresias]

7. OP is dishonest

Accomplishment =/= what you are remembered for historically.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. Perhaps you should direct that comment to MM.

[pnwmom]

25. He will be remembered historically as the President whose actions helped to save us

from a financial crisis that could have been worse than the Great Depression, if it hadn't been averted.

The $800 million stimulus was passed under Obama's watch. He wanted a bigger stimulus -- $1.2 million -- and the Rethugs wanted no stimulus. He won.

And he passed the first universal healthcare law ever, despite the concerted opposition of the Rethugs. He will be remembered historically for that, too.

And for being the first President who advocated for marriage equality.

Anyone who denies that these are significant accomplishments is dishonest.

[Louisiana1976]

27. Right on!

[Vinca]

8. If Obamacare hadn't passed, I might not have made it to Medicare.

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I'm grateful every single day for the pre-existing condition pool that took me in and allowed me to get surgery to relieve the pain that was giving me thoughts of suicide. I disagree with Michael Moore big time.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. That's great!

Millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions are now covered under Obamacare and lives are being saved.

It's a great accomplishment, but insignificant according to Michael Moore.

[joeglow3]

10. You should political polling

You have a knack for distorting a question to drive the results you want.

[Dawgs]

11. BS post. He said that he will only be REMEMBERED for being first black president.

Not that he hasn't accomplished more than that.

MM is right, BTW.

[SummerSnow]

12. And in a100 years from now no one will remember Moore at all.

[Louisiana1976]

29. Absolutely true.

[Android3.14]

13. Perhaps the only way people will remember someone who posts an OP is his or her knack for distortion

What an unfortunate bit of writing.

While BO has been a profound disappointment, somehow I think he will be one of the least destructive CoCs we'll have in the 21st century.

It would have been nice to have a CoC that actually tried to improve the country.

[MohRokTah]

15. Mr. Moore proved himself to be unworthy of any further consideration with that racist statement. eom

[Donald Ian Rankin]

16. I don't think that, and nor does Moore.

Those are your words, not his.

I do think that, barring changed in the next two years, few, if any, of Obama's achievements will be remembered in a hundred years time.

[Holly_Hobby]

18. Obama's housing refinance program helped us

shave $140/month off our payment, or 21%, due to 3% interest vs. 8.5%. Over 20 years, that's $33,600!

[Cali_Democrat]

19. Great news!

Another great accomplishment by Obama which is helping many Americans...yet dismissed by Michael Moore.

[Holly_Hobby]

23. Oh yeah, and our credit score sucked! :) n/t

[tazkcmo]

30. Sheesh

I bet your pissed at him!















sarcasm.

[Boreal]

31. Could you maybe do a thread on that?

Because I know someone who ended up losing her house in that deal. Could have been the unscrupulous actions of one bank, I don't know. She was current on payments so they told her not to make the next payment while the re-fi was being set up and then they foreclosed on her! I don't want to derail this thread so if you could share your experience in a thread I'd really appreciate it.

[Holly_Hobby]

39. I'll send you a PM n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

20. .

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[madokie]

21. F* michael moore

and the republicon horse he rode in on

[DesMoinesDem]

22. No, he also forced everyone to buy insurance from corporations.

[tazkcmo]

28. But

THAT is a huge accomplishment and I could personally die a happy man had I been the one to achieve it. President Obama and I don't always agree but over all, I'm glad it's him and not Romney or any of the others that ran.

[Boreal]

32. I'm sick of hearing from the 1%

and that includes MM.

[Blue_Tires]

33. The four "yes" votes are either trolling, or

they need to find another message board...

[Motown_Johnny]

34. 100 years from now people will still be on Obamacare

or some variation of it.


Screw Michael Moore, 100 years from now he won't be remembered at all.

[dilby]

38. I hope not, because then it means we lost and insurance companies won.

Single payer is the only solution.

[Prophet 451]

35. Nope

I think Obama will also be remembered for the ACA (weaksauce as it is, it's a start), Justice Sotomayor and trying to pull out of the wars (although time will tell how much that sticks).

[KamaAina]

36. F Michael Moore. With a pineapple. Sideways.

How about ending DADT, for starters?

[Go Vols]

37. People are on Medicare and Social Security

today also.
Both happened less than 100 years ago,ask ten random people on the street which prez's made these happen,I would guess 2 might know.None wouldn't surprise me tho.

[OilemFirchen]

40. Half black.

Obama even fucked that one up.





*** Sarcasm. With deep remorse for having to include this disclaimer. ***

[Cali_Democrat]

41. True

He can't do anything right dammit....

[RedCappedBandit]

43. Seems to me that's not what he said.