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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:12 PM Sep 2014

American Family Assn.'s Bryan Fischer Calls For Atheists To Be Banned From Serving In Armed Forces

Responding to a situation in which an airman was denied his request to re-enlist in the Air Force because he refuses to take an oath containing the phrase "so help me God," Fischer asserts that atheists should be prohibited from serving in all braches of the military because "there is no place in the United States military for those who do not believe in the Creator who is the source of every single one of our fundamental human and civil rights":

Military exists to uphold and defend our Constitution, and the Constitution in turn identifies the "unalienable rights" the Declaration refers to that our government is obligated to protect. These rights do not come from government, they do not come from the commander-in-chief, and they most certainly do not come from some activist judge. They come from God himself. We are not evolved, as this wannabe-enlistee believes, but we are "created," and "endowed by (our) Creator with certain unalienable rights."

This is an absolutely foundational, non-negotiable, bed-rock American principle: there is a Creator - with a capital "C" (you could look it up) - and he and he alone is the source of the very rights the military exists to protect and defend. An individual who does not understand and believe this has no right to serve in the U.S. military. Military service should rightly be reserved for those who believe in and are willing to die for what America stands for - and what America stands for is a belief in God as the source of our rights.

A man who doesn't believe in the Creator the Founders trusted certainly can live in America without being troubled for being a fool. But he most certainly should not wear the uniform. The other branches of the military do not require the same oath - yet. But they should. Military service should be reserved for genuine Americans and genuine Americans, like the Founders, believe in God. Fischer reiterated this view on his radio program today:
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bryan-fischer-call-atheists-be-banned-serving-armed-forces#sthash.vVMlZuHV.dpuf

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American Family Assn.'s Bryan Fischer Calls For Atheists To Be Banned From Serving In Armed Forces (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2014 OP
See atreides1 Sep 2014 #1
Exactly. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #8
We certainly do, similar, but not yet violent. This is how it starts! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #9
I'm not sure, but NV Whino Sep 2014 #2
I know of three... Wait Wut Sep 2014 #6
Hey, it works for me. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #3
Groovy. Now the Crusades can commence Skidmore Sep 2014 #4
I guess it's time to play "Onward Christian Soldiers!" People RKP5637 Sep 2014 #10
Of course he does. Wait Wut Sep 2014 #5
I like it tazkcmo Sep 2014 #7
Why does Bryan Fischer HATE the constitution? MohRokTah Sep 2014 #11
Because atheists just aren't moral enough to kill people. tanyev Sep 2014 #12
Right wingers' self esteem comes from imposing their morals on others. alp227 Sep 2014 #13
so ted nugent could have just said he was an atheist instead of crapping his pants dembotoz Sep 2014 #14

atreides1

(16,076 posts)
1. See
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:16 PM
Sep 2014

We have the beginnings of our own ISIL here...I guess we're going to wait for them to take power and then start executing all who don't believe in their deity...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. Hey, it works for me.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:17 PM
Sep 2014

It gives new meaning to that old saw about there being no atheists in the foxholes.

I wish ta hell they had that law back when I was drafted in 1967.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
10. I guess it's time to play "Onward Christian Soldiers!" People
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:24 PM
Sep 2014

like him freak me out more that ISIS. They are really cut out of a similar cloth!

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. Of course he does.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:17 PM
Sep 2014

I can't find any record of his service. Until I do, pretty sure he should keep his hole shut about an oath he never had to take.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
7. I like it
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:22 PM
Sep 2014

That means he and all his bible thumping aholes can die in Iraq and Syria RIGHT NOW! What an opportunity!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. Why does Bryan Fischer HATE the constitution?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:24 PM
Sep 2014
The United States Constitution

Article VI.

Paragraph 3.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

alp227

(32,020 posts)
13. Right wingers' self esteem comes from imposing their morals on others.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:40 PM
Sep 2014

The idea that others may hold different religious views, sexual orientation, etc and still be a good person is...kryptonite!

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
14. so ted nugent could have just said he was an atheist instead of crapping his pants
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:43 PM
Sep 2014

i am sure he would have preferred it.

prob most of the chicken hawks would have claimed to be atheist too

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