Still waiting for an answer, war hawks: How We Gonna Pay For The New War?

[grahamhgreen]

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EDIT: Guess we're gonna just have to keep posting this..... Preferably on a daily basis, if not hourly.

[gratuitous]

1. Silly!

Wars don't cost anything. Those two excellent invasions we carried out against Afghanistan and Iraq last decade didn't cost a penny. I know, because I saw it on Republican political ads, which keep telling me that the explosion of the deficit has been solely due to Democratic control of Congress beginning in 2006.

If we're going to have a new war, it won't cost anything either. Which reminds me, I think it's time for another round of tax cuts for the wealthiest citizens.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Easy.

Raid Social Security, eliminate Medicare, and cut veterans benefits. No problem.

[grahamhgreen]

3. I would think that a Democratic President could easily pass a new tax on the wealthiest to pay for

war...... but what do I know?

He could at least bring it up as an issue and make the R's look "soft on terror",

But.....


What do I know.

[Jackpine Radical]

7. Wouldn't that take Congressional action?

At this point, the Republicans are already maneuvering to eliminate military spending from the sequester.

[grahamhgreen]

13. Hey, they already have eliminated a large portion of the military from the sequestor,

I can dig up a link if you like.

But as far as real politik is concerned, Obama has the R's over a barrel, he can demand a tax on the wealthy to pay for the war, if they don't go for it he can paint them soft on terror. Win/win. He could still have his war either way.

Instead, he's gonna take it from grans.

[Autumn]

9. So are you saying the poor people on food stamps shouldn't have

to sacrifice anything? I can see you are an isolationist nonpatriot. In times of war we must all sacrifice and trust in our leaders.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. Yes, I meant to list them.

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We need to eliminate school lunch programs too.

[grahamhgreen]

14. And Pell grants.

[Autumn]

17. We mustn't forget LEAP, cut's could be made there.

Warmth is so overrated.

[Scuba]

31. +1,000

[chrisa]

33. Don't forget cutting / eliminating EBT programs.

Who needs food when there's a war to fight. Dropping a $10m bomb on a goat herder with a glorified firecracker should be #1 priority!

[Cayenne]

4. Print money, duh.

[truth2power]

22. That was going to be my response, but you got here first. n/t

[CK_John]

5. Money is just a concept.

[woo me with science]

24. But debt is used to take away very real things

that people need to survive.

[NuclearDem]

6. Raise taxes on the rich.

Just because someone sees some value in the campaign against ISIS doesn't mean they're a reckless voodoo economics asshole like Bush.

[valerief]

12. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Dream on.

Even if they were raised, new loopholes would be added to not only offset the raise but lower the tax burden even more.

Cuz that's how their game is played.

[Laelth]

8. Same way we always do.

We'll put it on the credit card.

-Laelth

[cali]

15. and what gets cut? who really pays the price?

[Laelth]

19. Good questions. n/t

-Laelth

[randome]

11. You want a playbook, maybe? A spreadsheet of numbers?

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It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]

[grahamhgreen]

16. Well, I got one for my flood damage....

[Autumn]

18. That would be nice. Let Americans know how it will be paid for and what the republicans will

insist on cutting to balance the budget and see if they are willing to do without those services. Then our leaders can have their military action. Obama can put his chess pieces on the table, I mean cards.

[randome]

27. Let Americans know they'd better stop electing skinflint Republcans in the first place.

You can't predict stuff like this. Someone makes an estimate, the first military action will likely 'exceed authorized expenditures'.
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It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]

[Autumn]

29. Of course it will exceed authorized expenditures, that's another good reason to lay out

what cuts will have to be made to pay for it.

[woo me with science]

20. Well, we have some precedent for what gets put on the table during corporate "emergencies."

Last time we faced a shock doctrine "crisis," we ended up with *more* austerity than Paul Ryan originally wanted.

Hell, just in the past month or two we got a farm bill based on "pension smoothing" and a hefty cut in FOOD STAMPS.

Remember?

Look at the OFFERS.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022060108

We are bought and sold. We are farm animals for profit.

[MFrohike]

21. This is a dumb question

Anybody who honestly thinks the federal government funds itself through taxation and bond sales is living in Fantasyland.

[GeorgeGist]

23. $600 Billion/yr Defense Dept. can't hack it?

[grahamhgreen]

26. We cut 8.7 billion from food stamps. Where does this money come from?

[spanone]

25. there's ALWAYS money for war.

[Cleita]

28. Easy. From the blood of the ordinary working class and their children.

You don't think Cheney and all the oil moguls are going to chip in while they are raking in the profits?

[woo me with science]

30. +1

[chrisa]

32. Just like we paid for the old one. Oh wait...