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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 09:49 PM Sep 2014

What might have prompted Dick Cheney to appear in DC to speak out about current events?

Last edited Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Could the answer to this question possibly be found with once again one needing to follow the money?

Ten contractors were the recipients of 52 percent of the funds received to fight the original war in Iraq -- according to the article at the following link. Would you like to take a guess as to which one was the number one top recipient?

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/308-12/16561-focus-cheneys-halliburton-made-395-billion-on-iraq-war

Houston-based energy-focused engineering and construction firm KBR, Inc. (NYSE:KBR), which was spun off from its parent, oilfield services provider Halliburton Co. (NYSE:HAL), in 2007.

The company was given $39.5 billion in Iraq-related contracts over the past decade, with many of the deals given without any bidding from competing firms, such as a $568-million contract renewal in 2010 to provide housing, meals, water and bathroom services to soldiers, a deal that led to a Justice Department lawsuit over alleged kickbacks, as reported by Bloomberg.


And when questioned about this sticky subject during that war's inception, Cheney casually said he was not on Halliburton's payroll during his Vice Presidential tenancy:

Cheney said Sunday on NBC that since becoming vice president, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."


But, oops....

The report (by the Congressional Research Service) says a public official's unexercised stock options and deferred salary fall within the definition of "retained ties" to his former company.


Both of the above two blockquotes can be found at this CBS news site: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cheneys-halliburton-ties-remain/

So off the top of your head, what do you think motivated Cheney to re-emerge in DC this week to rip President Obama's war policy? Just wondering....

Sam

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What might have prompted Dick Cheney to appear in DC to speak out about current events? (Original Post) Samantha Sep 2014 OP
It is time for Cheney to severe his ties with the Us government. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #1
It is a breach of protocol in DC for a past President or Vice President to criticise the current Samantha Sep 2014 #6
Apparently he doesnt know he needs to respect boundries. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #8
True -- neither literal nor figurative boundaries are observed by Cheney Samantha Sep 2014 #9
Or you can just go with the more obvious answer. Aerows Sep 2014 #29
Obviously, you are a very perceptive person Samantha Sep 2014 #35
Ray Charles Aerows Sep 2014 #36
Better question is, why would anyone listen or care ? n/t jaysunb Sep 2014 #2
One always has to wonder when Cheney steps back into the spotlight Samantha Sep 2014 #7
He wants to be Jeb's vice president Retrograde Sep 2014 #28
Maybe he's helping to look for the Politicalboi Sep 2014 #3
That money was never "misplaced". brush Sep 2014 #5
Securing a piece of the war profits for Haliburton DJ13 Sep 2014 #4
There was a very intelligent female commentator on Lawrence O'Donnell's show last evening Samantha Sep 2014 #10
bingo! liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #23
Greed. jwirr Sep 2014 #11
When I hear "increased calls for boots on the ground" Samantha Sep 2014 #15
Exactly. Back in WWII we called it profiteering. If we must have wars we should make then jwirr Sep 2014 #19
I was wondering if there is a way to find out who is awarded government contracts Samantha Sep 2014 #20
If you have a good congressman/woman I would call them and ask if the info is available. jwirr Sep 2014 #21
Look what I just found! Samantha Sep 2014 #22
There is a reason that the Defense Department never was audited during W term and I doubt it jwirr Sep 2014 #24
There is one thing I know but it is not from a Google search Samantha Sep 2014 #25
During the Iran/Contra trials they talked about secret sluch funds for the CIA and some of the jwirr Sep 2014 #37
Exactly Samantha Sep 2014 #38
Once upon a time war profiteering was considered treason, and if convicted, one could even tblue37 Sep 2014 #39
Now it is still treason but there is no punishment for it. We now call it good business practices. jwirr Sep 2014 #40
Going on the attack to prevent from being investigated Populist_Prole Sep 2014 #12
I would like to think most Americans by now will accept absolutely no defense Samantha Sep 2014 #17
He's a greedy sadistic bastard who has not been held accountable J_J_ Sep 2014 #13
Someone dialed hell for an opinion. mmonk Sep 2014 #14
I think you've got it (n/t) Samantha Sep 2014 #18
A full moon? Shorter daylight hours? hatrack Sep 2014 #16
He was howling about Obama Samantha Sep 2014 #34
Was he out in daylight? liberal N proud Sep 2014 #26
The crypt needed sweeping and his dr said Ilsa Sep 2014 #27
Advance pub for an upcoming biopic? Joe Magarac Sep 2014 #30
attention whores need attention for their last gasp at relevency eom ladywnch Sep 2014 #31
The Time of the Harvest draws nigh, and the brethren gather to feed upon the living. Orsino Sep 2014 #32
Saturday nights bring out the best in DU responses Samantha Sep 2014 #33

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
6. It is a breach of protocol in DC for a past President or Vice President to criticise the current
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

admiinistration, but since neither he nor Bush* were legitimately elected, he probably thinks it is totally acceptable to keep seizing the moment to step up and speak out if there is a dollar to be had.

Sam

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Apparently he doesnt know he needs to respect boundries.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:57 PM
Sep 2014

He seems to want to keep the Cheney name in the news, as I see it he us hurting any chances his daughter has in winning an election.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
9. True -- neither literal nor figurative boundaries are observed by Cheney
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:05 PM
Sep 2014

He might be thinking he needs all of the money he can get to help fix, I mean finance , her next campaign.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. Or you can just go with the more obvious answer.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 07:31 PM
Sep 2014

He's an arrogant greedy jackass that hasn't got the good grace to stop acting like one.

That's what I'm going with.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
35. Obviously, you are a very perceptive person
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

who is a good judge of character (or lack thereof).

Thank you for posting on my thread.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
7. One always has to wonder when Cheney steps back into the spotlight
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:30 PM
Sep 2014

exactly what it is he wants. Sometimes it is in our best interests to find out....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
28. He wants to be Jeb's vice president
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 07:29 PM
Sep 2014

or at least the veep of whomever the GOP nominates in 2016. Nothing in the Constitution says you can't be VP forever...

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. Maybe he's helping to look for the
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:06 PM
Sep 2014

2.3 TRILLION dollars the Pentagon announced it misplaced on 09/10/01. Did they ever find that money? I bet it was a lot more than 2.3 too.

brush

(53,737 posts)
5. That money was never "misplaced".
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 10:21 PM
Sep 2014

C'mon, no one misplaces 2.3 trillion dollars. That kind of cash, and we're talking CASH as was the practice in Iraq then, pallet loads of it, would have been transported with at least a regiment-sized force of of heavily armed security. It's itinerary would have been precisely planned to the minute.

It was not MISPLACED, it went to those it was planned to go to — and I'm guessing Cheney and Halliburton got their share.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
10. There was a very intelligent female commentator on Lawrence O'Donnell's show last evening
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:14 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:31 PM - Edit history (1)

who point-blank said the people who will make a killing (her word, not mine) on this fight against ISIS will be military contractors. It is they who are hawking the dangers, promoting the opportunity to make a few bucks for themselves over this debacle. It just further reinforced to me Cheney's motives on this issue....

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
15. When I hear "increased calls for boots on the ground"
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:02 PM
Sep 2014

I immediately think of Cheney. Hallburton serviced all the military in Iraq during the war. It was a no-bid contract.

Sam

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. Exactly. Back in WWII we called it profiteering. If we must have wars we should make then
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:39 PM
Sep 2014

non-profits.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. I was wondering if there is a way to find out who is awarded government contracts
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:29 PM
Sep 2014

The big one Halliburton received, something like 39.5 million, was a no-bid contract. There must be some way this information has to be publicly disclosed -- if one knows where to look. What do you think?

I believe I heard there may be boots on the ground if President Obama receives the money and support from Congress to go into Syria. I was moving around while listening to the news today, and I believe I heard that. I hope that is not true, but it sounds about right.

Sam

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
22. Look what I just found!
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:50 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.defense.gov/contracts/

It is kind of late so I am going to wait until tomorrow morning to look at it.

The reason I asked this question originally was to try to discern if one could keep track as things progress of where the money is being spent. I do think there is probably a lot of expenditures disbursed under previously allocated funds that will not be revealed....

Sam

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. There is a reason that the Defense Department never was audited during W term and I doubt it
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:16 AM
Sep 2014

has under Obama as he has enough on his plate already. They have hidden funds that we will never find but what you found at least gives us a start. I do not understand much about economics but we have some good people here on DU who do .

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
25. There is one thing I know but it is not from a Google search
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 07:21 PM
Sep 2014

Even members of Congress have never known the complete tab spent on, let us say, national security issues.

Sam

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
37. During the Iran/Contra trials they talked about secret sluch funds for the CIA and some of the
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:55 PM
Sep 2014

special forces. But the numbers were never discussed. I suppose that this is what many are calling our shadow government. It is definitely in the shadows.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
38. Exactly
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:24 AM
Sep 2014

I am not really sure any one person could cough up a legitimate total, all encompassing.

Sam

tblue37

(65,215 posts)
39. Once upon a time war profiteering was considered treason, and if convicted, one could even
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:27 AM
Sep 2014

be executed for it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
40. Now it is still treason but there is no punishment for it. We now call it good business practices.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:19 AM
Sep 2014

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
12. Going on the attack to prevent from being investigated
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 01:00 PM
Sep 2014

Thom Hartmann made an excellent observation the other day. He mused that all this fiery hawkishness to prevent he and his ilk from the previous administration from being investigated for war crimes in a "the best defense is an offense" move.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
17. I would like to think most Americans by now will accept absolutely no defense
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:35 PM
Sep 2014

for the Bush*/Cheney foreign policies. Too many people died.

Sam

 

J_J_

(1,213 posts)
13. He's a greedy sadistic bastard who has not been held accountable
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 01:01 PM
Sep 2014

He's pretty much just laughing his ass off at us, while he tells his minions to prepare for his next looting.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
34. He was howling about Obama
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:36 PM
Sep 2014

So you might be on to something here.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
27. The crypt needed sweeping and his dr said
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 07:29 PM
Sep 2014

His human heart needed a boost of Vitamin D from sunshine, if Cheney thought he could avoid spontaneous combustion.j

Its really bad protocol for him to come out criticize the sitting president. Then again, this pendejo told another sitting senator to go fuck himself on the senate floor. People like this are why politics and sports are so nasty, mean, and undignified now.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
32. The Time of the Harvest draws nigh, and the brethren gather to feed upon the living.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 08:33 PM
Sep 2014

This is all covered on page three of your Prophecy handbook.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
33. Saturday nights bring out the best in DU responses
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:34 PM
Sep 2014

Thank you so much for posting on my thread. Made my day.

Sam

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