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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:19 AM Sep 2014

Pope Francis: Pope says world's many conflicts amount to piecemeal World War Three


REDIPUGLIA, Italy, Sept 13 (Reuters) - Pope Francis said on Saturday the spate of conflicts around the globe today were effectively a "piecemeal" Third World War, condemning the arms trade and "plotters of terrorism" sowing death and destruction.

"Humanity needs to weep and this is the time to weep," Francis said in the homily of a Mass during a visit to Italy's largest war memorial,
large, Fascist-era monument where more than 100,000 soldiers who died in World War One are buried.
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL5N0RE04M20140913

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RKP5637

(67,089 posts)
1. Yep, I think so too, it's sort of a variation of WW III, so many conflicts, so much hatred and
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:25 AM
Sep 2014

anger building and feeding on hostilities.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
2. We need someone to step up to the plate
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:28 AM
Sep 2014

for peace...

Because our politicians certainly aren't going to do it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. you know, it finally occurred to me that war is our natural state
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:38 AM
Sep 2014

Historically speaking.
It is peace that is unusual, in all of the last recorded 3,000 years.

I was reading a really neat historical atlas online,, and there, in the year 2350 BC, are Egypt, Sumer, and Indus, on 3 different continents.
damn if some guys that became the Hittites did not attack Sumer.
3 major ( at the time) groups of people and there is war.

"Akkad: Empire [2350]. The ruler of a neighboring city conquered Sumer, built a new capital at Akkad, and used his army to create the world's first empire [2350/2180, "

Cool interactive time line atlas btw..
http://www.atlasofworldhistory.com/

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
4. Certainly seems to be a start, but...
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

Being an proponent of generational theory, the next big crisis is going to be a combination of many things, including war, environment, economy, resources, biological and information technology. The latter, as we have been seeing, will be a conflict over control of information.

The Ebola outbreak may also be the first wave of a worldwide epidemic.

Dark times ahead, for at least 10-30 years, and we'll have to pull together somehow in order to deal with those times.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
5. I think he is correct but not in the rapture ideal. Although it is not hard to connect this world
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:31 PM
Sep 2014

unrest to climate change right now. This is connected to a period of change not a religious prophecy. But the rapture idiots will take him literally.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Sure just like Lutheran's do not. However, it is just not Catholics who are listening to him make
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:58 PM
Sep 2014

these pronouncements.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. There's a lot of pissing contests going on and we just have to get involved..for some reason.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:36 PM
Sep 2014

I guess America just can't pass up any opportunity to lose another war while talking about peace.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
7. So how would a WW-III Armistice look in this asymmetrical world?
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:09 PM
Sep 2014

Who would sign? Which entities would drop their arms and go home to families? I'm not hopeful....perhaps the Pope has a prayer for this mess.

Some combatants are autonomous armies (ISIS, insurgent groups) with no internationally recognized political standing. Mostly, we don't have a clue who and what their end games might be.

Other combatants seem to be kidnap and extort operations (Somalia) and the folks that 'sold' the beheaded reporters.

Other factions (Kurds, HAMAS) have some political autonomy, but no nation state.

And the big democracies (US, France etc.) have minimal standing in the region and a miserable track record for our meddling.

Regional nation-states (Saudi Arabia, Iraq) - whatever...who knows.



BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
8. Partialy disagree
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:15 PM
Sep 2014

It isn't WW3 yet but the events are lining up that greatly increase the probability of it happening, especially when you consider the Russo-Sino alliance forming.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
9. Disagree.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:19 PM
Sep 2014

He's looking for an easy narrative.

The world has always had piecemeal combating going on. The world, Pope, has men in it. We will probably have piecemeal combat going on for some time. World War III, no way, not by a long shot.

Here's a thought, Mr. Pope. Human history is basically all about men behaving badly. Some guy's got a hard on for some other guy's property and the hilarity and torture ensues. How about getting on with woman having the power? We have a tendency to work things out without throwing fists, Ms. Palin aside.

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