Because people deserve to be remembered for more than a hideous death: David Haines

[cali]

Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2014, 07:09 AM - Edit history (1)

R.I.P. David Haines. Humanitarian, husband, father of 2 daughters. 1970-2014.

From his brother:

My name is Mike Haines, I am brother to David Haines, who was recently murdered in cold blood.


David was like so very many of us, just another bloke. Born in 1970 to parents who loved us both, our childhood was centred around our family. Holidays in caravans and tents, days away as a family which we remember fondly. David and I were brought up to know right from wrong, although we might not with the innocence of youth have always chosen right. David was a good brother, there when I needed him and absent when I didn't. I hope that he felt the same way about me. He was, in the right mood, the life and soul of the party and on other times the most stubborn irritating pain in the ass. He would probably say the same about me.

After leaving school he worked with the Royal Mail before joining the RAF as an aircraft engineer. He married his childhood sweetheart Louise and in the due process of time had a wee lass Bethany. He was -- and no doubt wherever he is -- exceptionally proud of Bethany.

David served with the UN in the Balkans, helping people in real need. There are many accolades from people in that region that David helped. He helped whoever needed help, regardless of race, creed or religion. During this time David began to decide that humanitarian work was the field he wanted to work in.

David left the RAF and was employed by Scotrail. As with every job, David entered into it with enthusiasm. David met and married his second wife Dragana and they have a four year old daughter Athea.

David was most alive and enthusiastic in his humanitarian roles. His joy and anticipation for the work he went to do in Syria is for myself and family the most important element of this whole sad affair.

He was and is loved by all his family and will be missed terribly.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/13/world/europe/haines-family-statement/?sr=google_news&google_editors_picks=true

[irisblue]

1. RIP David

Your girls deserved to have their dad for a much longer time.

[merrily]

2. No human deserves that. Our culture of violence, especially if it is "our" violence

is something I can abide less and less every day.

My mother in law anxiously watched a swarm of ants go up her front steps gradually, resting a bit higher every day. Anxiously, because she knew someone was going to have to do something if and when they got to her front door and she could not stand to harm any living thing.

She tried baking soda first. I don't know what happened after that because, if she called an exterminator, she would have been too ashamed to tell me.

I'd nominate her for Secretary of Defense. People in power should be as reluctant to send our kids to die or to kill anyone else's kids, as she is to kill ants.

[cali]

3. Of course you're free to say whatever you wish in this thread

but I'm sorry you did. I don't see what your story has to do with anything.

David Haines sounds like a wonderful man who cared deeply about others. I hate seeing him used by- governments or anyone else.

Don't mean to insult you, I just think Mr. Haines deserves better and I think you're using him to make your point about violence in our culture.

[merrily]

7. I said no human being deserved his death.

I don't know what more you can expect. Do I have to say I am sorry he died? Isn't that obvious?

I didn't know him. Am I supposed to eulogize him better than his brother did? and to what end? Will he see my post? Will his family? How did I disrespect his memory? By attacking what I see as the cause of his death and so many others?

And, assuming that was disrespectful, which it obviously was not intended to be, does calling me out on it improve the thread or just divert it from whatever you see as appropriate posting on this thread?

I am not insulted. We just disagree.

[cali]

8. My point was not using him. as I said you're free to say whatever you wish

If you can't see that your comments are disrespectful, you can't.

I respect the hell out of anyone who does what Mr. Haines did. He deserves to be remembered for his humanitarian work.

[Cass]

10. FWIW, I didn't interpret Merrily's comments as being disrespectful to Mr. Haines.

She (or he) was commenting on what she sees as the cause behind his horrific death.

You posted a thread for discussion and Merrily added an opinion. Isn't that what this forum is for? Maybe next time you ought to put a disclaimer in your threads to let posters know to think twice about posting their opinions in your threads since you're sorry Merrily posted hers.

[cali]

11. I said quite clearly that she was obviously free to post whatever she wished.

I expressed my opinion about her post. As you said, it's a forum for expressing opinions.

[Shankapotomus]

4. Your MIL might try

giving the ants what they are looking for.

Leave a pile of crumbs a good distance away from her door. When that pile is gone, leave another pile of crumbs even further away but not so far that the ants can't find it.

Repeat until the ants are in the next county.

[alphafemale]

5. You'd have also fed plague infested rats and lured them to the neighbors house?

The next country.

Charming.

[Pholus]

9. Presumes facts not in evidence.

I see no indication the next "county" consisted of "the neighbors house."

Charming.

[blackspade]

6. RIP Mr Haines

You deserved better in life, just like the people that you helped every day.

It is my hope that you will be remembered and these Isis assholes will only be as the asshole wackos that they are.