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Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:52 AM Sep 2014

To DeCloud, or not to DeCloud. That is my question.

All signs point to the necessity to stop the uploads to the Cloud on our Mac products until there is a confirmation of how the actress's selfies made to the internet. So far no one is admitting that there is a bug in the Mac products and many say that the hackers got in by guessing their names and passwords. I'm not sure I buy that.

No one is coming out and saying it, but there is a possibility that the hackers found another way in, which means legal trouble for the Apple company, and is also a concern for the rest of us.

Until we know for sure, should we stop the updates to the cloud?

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WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
1. On my Kindle Fire HDX, I can delete a photo from just the device, or BOTH the device and the Cloud.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

But one must be aware of the different steps.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
2. the only thing i would put in the cloud is something that I don't care about.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

Not that I would use any iPOS to start with.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. I don't care that my photos get uploaded to the cloud
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:57 AM
Sep 2014

since they do not contain nudity etc. and nobody would be interested in my vacation photos and my kids' selfies. So I would say keep on using the cloud, provided that it is all stuff that you wouldn't care about the world seeing.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
5. Isn't there more involved than photos?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:03 AM
Sep 2014

People actually write documents on their I-Pads. There are companies that are moving in that direction, giving employees their equipment. Aren't these documents also in jeopardy?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. For me it's only photos.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:12 AM
Sep 2014

But for documents the rule should be that you put them on the cloud only if EITHER:


1. You don't care who sees it (shopping list for example) OR

2. You have strongly (and I mean strongly) encrypted it.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
4. The Cloud
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:57 AM
Sep 2014

Seems that a lot of people don't realize that it is only another way of saying "someone else's computer"

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. I don't let my Macs and other devices hook up to the cloud. However, we all use the cloud.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:06 AM
Sep 2014

If we use email, we are using the cloud in a way. Our email is on servers somewhere and we access them when we use email.

All my years of Yahoo mail, for example, is in the cloud.

I try to remember to back it up on my desktop but if I didn't do that it would ONLY be in the cloud.

I don't like devices that communicate with the cloud by default, it should be made very clear to users what is going on and what the dangers are, but I fear the movement is toward all cloud all the time.

And I think that's unwise.

Maybe this recent breach of security will turn out to be a good thing.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
7. For me, it was a timely discovery.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

People who are just getting an I-Pad might not have recognized the dangers.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. I discovered in buying a new unit that shit was happening without my permission.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:23 AM
Sep 2014

I think it was my iPhone 5, maybe an iPad, but all of a sudden I had doubles of everything all iPhoto items because it went out to the network or the cloud and downloaded them.

So I had to figure out why and then disable that function and start again.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. You cant really decloud.. essentially all on-line applications are in the cloud.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:16 AM
Sep 2014

Cloud is such a misused and misunderstood term. It mostly refers to how hosting companies host servers.. a cloud server is virtual and dynamic as opposed to the old days when it was all hardware based.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
10. Which is to say that the breach could have come from a server, as much as it could have
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sep 2014

come directly from an iCloud hack?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
11. In the cloud simply means your data is out there.. somewhere..
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:22 AM
Sep 2014

and not on your computer or mobile device.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
15. Or anywhere along the line.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:49 AM
Sep 2014

Every single piece of hardware between your device and the the final storage device, including that storage device. For all we know, the 'hackers' were NSA contractees using the NSA programs in ways they're not supposed to, scooping up nudie pics as they move through the net.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
9. My new Kindle is coming here in
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:17 AM
Sep 2014

a couple of days. The only things I'll be putting on the cloud will be books and other media. Anything personal is on hard copies at home. I advise everyone to do the same.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
14. I must be doing something wrong.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:39 AM
Sep 2014

I stopped the backups in setting, but now I can't get on the internet from my I-Phone.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
17. Maybe this Cloud stuff will
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:04 AM
Sep 2014

slow down the deification of Steve Jobs, and the entire worship of Apple products.

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