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Would you vote for Hillary if... (Original Post) minivan2 Sep 2014 OP
No. n/t winter is coming Sep 2014 #1
No. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #2
No. n/t NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
I want to see a party platform and the candidates positions on the critical issues. CentralMass Sep 2014 #4
Ditto rock Sep 2014 #7
same here. n/t deafskeptic Sep 2014 #29
I do not think so Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #5
No, I'd be ticked off Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #6
NO Lost In America Sep 2014 #8
No. Because Hillary would still be the President. SheilaT Sep 2014 #9
I'm with you GummyBearz Sep 2014 #24
+2 JimDandy Sep 2014 #64
"they only saw that she was female and black" (Condi Rice)Exactly on point I've been trying to make 2banon Sep 2014 #65
No bigwillq Sep 2014 #10
yes - and vice-versa wyldwolf Sep 2014 #11
No. woo me with science Sep 2014 #12
I'm going to vote for the Democratic candidate. Sancho Sep 2014 #13
Unfortunately, we may have no choice, Indepatriot Sep 2014 #14
Same, basically. Chan790 Sep 2014 #59
No, I would not want to be wishing for her demise. JEB Sep 2014 #15
Nope. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #16
No. PFunk Sep 2014 #17
no! wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #18
Yes. yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 #19
Nope. Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #20
I will vote for the Democratic candidate mcar Sep 2014 #21
NO. tencats Sep 2014 #22
I'll vote for the Dem nominee, regardless of who it is eridani Sep 2014 #23
I will vote for our party's nominee. femmocrat Sep 2014 #25
I'll vote for the Democratic nominee. RandySF Sep 2014 #26
No. n/t antiquie Sep 2014 #27
I won't vote for someone who's not the democratic nominee Scootaloo Sep 2014 #28
no. liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #30
No. 840high Sep 2014 #31
Yes since at that point she will have been the Democratic nominee. zappaman Sep 2014 #32
No, that would just piss me off. If Warren or Sanders don't run, I want them to stay in the Senate. scarletwoman Sep 2014 #33
Of course. nt DawgHouse Sep 2014 #34
If she was the nominee. Yes. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #35
+1. I'll vote for her if I have no choice. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #37
No DJ13 Sep 2014 #36
I would vote for Hillary and the VP would not matter Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #38
No annm4peace Sep 2014 #39
I'll vote for the Dem in the GE CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #40
I'm voting for Hillary no matter who her VP is. (nt) Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2014 #41
No Pastiche423 Sep 2014 #42
No Pastiche423 Sep 2014 #43
No PADemD Sep 2014 #44
No Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #45
I'll vote for Clinton if she's the Dem candidate in the general election. Iggo Sep 2014 #46
If she is the only choice than yes. RGinNJ Sep 2014 #47
So all the people voting "No" in this thread are admitting they would not support the Dem nominee... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #48
I am saying that I will not vote for HRC even if she is the Dem nominee. peacebird Sep 2014 #52
So....President Rand Paul? n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #60
No. I feel like all these marketing questions are attempts to make her more saleable on point Sep 2014 #49
^^ This. n/t winter is coming Sep 2014 #58
I will vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic Nominee for President. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #50
No. peacebird Sep 2014 #51
It depends on jamzrockz Sep 2014 #53
No, SamKnause Sep 2014 #54
I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee. (nt) Heidi Sep 2014 #55
I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee. Laelth Sep 2014 #56
Nope. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #57
No! n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #61
I'm going to have a hard time voting for her Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #62
Probabaly not. However, it depends on who the republican nominee is and the polling in my state. morningfog Sep 2014 #63

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
4. I want to see a party platform and the candidates positions on the critical issues.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:58 PM
Sep 2014

I want to see them debate and explain and defend their positions. My vote is not guaranteed.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. No, I'd be ticked off
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:07 PM
Sep 2014

that she pulled either one out of the Senate for a lousy VP spot.

But I'd vote for either of them even if they had her as their VP, since I think they're both in decent health.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. No. Because Hillary would still be the President.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:10 PM
Sep 2014

Not Warren or Sanders or whoever else her VP might be.

I think Hillary Clinton would make a terrible President. She's too old. She's too much a creature of the past. She represents the Republican wing of the Democratic Party.

Back in late '07, early '08, I ran across some college students who were all ga-ga over the possibility of Condi Rice running for President. It was crystal clear that they only saw that she was female and black, and thought she'd just be perfect. They hadn't a clue how completely unsuited for running for the office, let alone how spectacularly unsuited she was for the job.

And yes, I know all of you Hillary defenders are going to say you are thinking and that you think she'd make a wonderful President, and I'm saying you're wrong. She's not progressive. She does not support the middle and working classes. She's happy with bank bailouts and wars. I'm sure she's a wonderful human being, but I do not want her as President.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
65. "they only saw that she was female and black" (Condi Rice)Exactly on point I've been trying to make
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:55 PM
Sep 2014

I've been trying to make, only to fall on deaf ears wrt to HRC. Because of the policies she supports, I don't want her to be the first woman to take that office.

It's important to me, that the first Woman president of the U.S. actually represent the poor and working class families.. AND be firm in opposing the MIC and Wall Street's blood thirsty machinations for more wars for profits as well as long list of other domestic policy issues.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
14. Unfortunately, we may have no choice,
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:23 PM
Sep 2014

as the GOP horror show will give us no alternative. But I'll not be knocking doors for Mrs. Clinton.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
59. Same, basically.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

That's why the time to end Clinton's candidacy is now. If she gets the nomination or even has a strong start to the primary season, I'm probably stuck with her. I'd rather eat broken glass coated in pepper-spray than have Hillary Clinton as President but I probably don't have another choice...any other viable choice would have my support if it meant keeping both the GOP and the GOP-wannabe Clinton out of the Oval Office.

That's why the "focus on 2014 right fucking now, people!" people annoy the fuck out of me. I can't concentrate solely on 2014...this is my best opportunity to end a Clinton candidacy--before it starts in earnest.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
23. I'll vote for the Dem nominee, regardless of who it is
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

A more progressive VP would not make me any happier about it though.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
25. I will vote for our party's nominee.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:36 PM
Sep 2014

If it is Hillary, then yes, I will vote for her regardless of the VP candidate.


 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. I won't vote for someone who's not the democratic nominee
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:42 PM
Sep 2014

Clinton won't be. Just like she wasn't on '08. We're not republicans, we don't have to scrape the barrel.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
32. Yes since at that point she will have been the Democratic nominee.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:47 PM
Sep 2014

And I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
33. No, that would just piss me off. If Warren or Sanders don't run, I want them to stay in the Senate.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:48 PM
Sep 2014

In any case, I don't want Hillary for Prez no matter what.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
35. If she was the nominee. Yes.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:50 PM
Sep 2014

To pick her as the nominee, not if you hit me in the head with a shovel.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
36. No
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:53 PM
Sep 2014

I have too much respect for both Warren and Sanders to want to see either of them being used as a prop to win over the base.

Especially when I doubt Clinton would ever be interested in their counsel as President, since her core beliefs are the polar opposite.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
38. I would vote for Hillary and the VP would not matter
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:12 PM
Sep 2014

On the ones who does not think Hillary would not consult others have it wrong.

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
39. No
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:14 PM
Sep 2014

I'm surprise of so many No's. I thought we would be in the minority.

can't stand her or her foreign policy

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
40. I'll vote for the Dem in the GE
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:25 PM
Sep 2014

which is more than what some of Hillary's supporters could manage in 2008.

I won't lift a finger for her until then. She has bad instincts.

From hiring GOP operative Mark Penn, to criticizing President Obama's foreign policy, then walking that back when the water tested too hot, to the hints from her Iowa Steak Fry appearance this weekend that she's going to try to run on taking credit for the ACA/Obamacare (WTF?), I get a strong sense that an HRC presidency would be a series of missteps and walk-backs, and finding dangerous "common ground" with the GOP in Congress.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
48. So all the people voting "No" in this thread are admitting they would not support the Dem nominee...
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:17 AM
Sep 2014

....in a general election?

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
52. I am saying that I will not vote for HRC even if she is the Dem nominee.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:04 AM
Sep 2014

It would be a first for me, not supporting the Dem nominee, and I am hoping it doesn't come to that. She was not the nominee last time even with all the "inevitable" bs. Hoping she decides to stay out of this one altogether.

on point

(2,506 posts)
49. No. I feel like all these marketing questions are attempts to make her more saleable
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:31 AM
Sep 2014

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I don't think the DLC third party types get she isn't wanted no matter how she is packaged. We are no longer going to be suckered by packaging. We want substance, and that is far different than what they have been pushing.

They just don't get it. No amount of lipstick will work

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
50. I will vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic Nominee for President.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:45 AM
Sep 2014

I have not made up my mind who I will support for that nomination, yet, though. It is premature to talk about the general when we haven't even started the primary process.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
53. It depends on
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:07 AM
Sep 2014

who the republicans nominate. If he is really that much worse than Clinton, then I will love for her. But if it was some McCain type repub similar to Clinton? then I am staying home

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
56. I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:52 AM
Sep 2014

Her V.P. choice will not be the determining factor in my vote for Hillary in the general election.

That said, quite obviously, I'd prefer a different nominee.

-Laelth

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
62. I'm going to have a hard time voting for her
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:06 PM
Sep 2014

no matter who her running mate is. We seriously need a paradigm shift, and she won't bring it.

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