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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat the Hell Is Going On in Scotland? Let John Oliver Explain
Scotland heads to the polls on Thursday to decide if it stays a part of the United Kingdom or not. How should you, an American who saw Braveheart a few times, feel about this? Let John Oliver break it down for you:
muriel_volestrangler
(101,312 posts)(as last week's Oliver YouTube video said too). It seems an Englishman in the US is unsuitable viewing for the English or Scottish, even when talking about Scotland.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)That and the BBC took out Salmond's response to a question during the debate and the correspondent said Salmond "ignored the question."
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)geardaddy
(24,926 posts)I was wrong.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)and that HBO is not allowing its content to be viewed through youtube outside of the US. Censorship? What a fucking joke.
It is not censorship and yes you do not know what censorship is.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Thank you.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)and hope to link up with a computer outside the UK.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)IcyPeas
(21,866 posts)It's an extension that makes it looks like your IP address is in whatever country you pick. (for example, I choose the UK and then I am able to watch British tv shows from BBC iPlayer that I am normally blocked from. I can watch many shows from bbc, itn, stv channel 4, etc. try it, it's great. (I have been watching The Great British Bake Off and your version of Masterchef). But I have watched some Scottish documentaries and debates also using Hola.
https://hola.org/
muriel_volestrangler
(101,312 posts)I looked to see if there were suggestions of trustworthy proxy servers, and I saw anonymouse in a list, which I remembered using many years ago, so I tried that, and it worked (I had a browser extension that used to get around restrictions like this, but YouTube and others figured out how to stop it working).
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)like the way the oil revenue from the North Sea field has disappeared into London without benefiting the Scots at all except with a few jobs here and there.
This didn't happen overnight. The rumblings have been going on since the 70s.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)and yes, there is still resentment there of the abandonment of the Stuart line in favor of the Hanoverians. So not only are they being ruled by conservatives in London, their queen is a German.
Maybe Ulster is next. It's full of people hanging onto grudges of some 700 years duration plus Protestant colonists who travel to Britain and find out they're Irish.
tnlurker
(1,020 posts)virgdem
(2,126 posts)so damned funny and brilliant.
CatWoman
(79,301 posts)virgdem
(2,126 posts)I have not watched his show yet, but I will make a point to catch it on Sunday nights.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)FSogol
(45,484 posts)mcar
(42,311 posts)Love it.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)... in a top hat. If only.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)underpants
(182,797 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Unfortunately, we have a less hysterical version of the three sheep with a threat with the Tea Party...
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I support Scottish independence for that reason (not just because the English stole my Scottish ancestors' land)....
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)15 kids kicked into the road from the farm near Newpitslago, Aberdeenshire. My grandmorther spoke of it like it was yesterday. My g. grandpa lived it.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and land was the big issue always. You have a real story there in your family--relatives who actually remember the "removal." It was a consistent push. Not surprised there is bad feeling today.
My ancestors from Perthshire seemed to have skirmished for a few generations with the British early on. One of them led a contingent of men to help William Wallace at the siege of Perth. (Trying not to think of a "millionaire Australian anti-semite on horseback".....lol) They got accused of being witches when they were really just farmers and herbalists (and maybe read some of the European alchemist literature).
They were cheated out of their land in the end, which is why one of them came to America. In America they were very insular and married cousins, or other Scots--so my Scottish heritage is strong. My aunt made things out of the tartan for all of us.
I'm thinking--go Scotland--especially on the nuclear issue.
dickthegrouch
(3,173 posts)Not as I was taught its components.
St George cross (England): Red, vertical cross on white background
St Andrew's cross (Scotland): White, diagonal cross on blue background
St David's cross (Wales): Red, diagonal cross on white background.
There was no Northern Ireland in it AFAIK.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)St. Patrick's Saltire. Red on White.
St. David's
St. Patrick's
Neither Wales nor N. Ireland are represented in the Union Flag (unless you count St. Patrick's saltire, since it is part of Ireland historically)
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)No disrespect to the bald eagle, but I would go with the wookie in a heartbeat.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)That's fucking awesome!
I did not know that and I'm of Scottish descent.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)Laughed so much I had to wipe away the tears.
Sam
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Absolutely cannot wait.
arikara
(5,562 posts)Unicorns and bagpipes. Cameron and a racist Australian millionaire.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Give it back, England!
sarge43
(28,941 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,312 posts)You can see the Stone of Destiny and the Honours of Scotland for yourself at Edinburgh Castle or you can see the replica of the stone that sits in the grounds of Scone Palace in Perthshire.
http://www.visitscotland.com/about/arts-culture/uniquely-scottish/stone-destiny
The agreement is that it will be used in the next coronation in Westminster Abbey. Though if independence happens, that might be changed, I suppose (will there be a separate Scottish coronation?)
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Good that it's back home.
If there's independence and Scotland retains the monarchy, they'll insist on a coronation with all the bells and whistles. They were not happy at all with the hand wave last time. On the other, there'll just be a national shrug.