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This is an excerpt from Eugene Robinson's column in todays Washington Post. He's asking Hillary what she would do as Prez. Great column. Great question.
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The last time she barnstormed through Iowa, it did not go well. The 2008 caucuses were supposed to ratify her status as the Democratic front-runner and show her challengers the futility of their puny efforts. Instead, she finished third, behind Barack Obama and John Edwards. The Clinton machine lost the air of inevitability that had been its greatest asset and turned out to lack a compelling message that could compete with Obamas promise of hope and change.
Now Clinton begins another campaign perhaps in which she is seen as the inevitable winner. She has said she will make a firm decision probably after the first of the year. But if she has reached the point of dropping broad hints, she needs to begin telling the nation how and why she proposes to lead.
The election of the first woman as president would be a great milestone, but a glance at the headlines economic and social dislocation at home, terrorism and war abroad suggests that voters will not likely be in the mood for symbolic gestures. To win the nomination, let alone the general election, Clinton will have to lay out her vision of the way forward.
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Today, you know so well, American families are working harder than ever, but maintaining a middle-class life feels like pushing a boulder uphill every single day, she said, adding that we can build a growing economy of shared prosperity.
If this indicates she is beginning to formulate a populist appeal, she will find that territory already staked out by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) a non-candidate who nevertheless had sign-carrying supporters in the Iowa crowd. Warrens blistering critique of structural economic inequality is popular with liberal Democrats, some of whom see Clinton as too cozy with Wall Street.
When Warren is asked about her intentions, her standard formulation is I am not running for president, using the present tense which doesnt definitively rule anything out. It seems likely, in any event, that someone will challenge Clinton from the left.
Centrist pragmatism as a campaign theme? In U.S. politics today, the middle is a dangerous place to be.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eugene-robinson-hillary-clinton-needs-to-tell-americans-her-vision/2014/09/15/b1f39ee4-3d09-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html?hpid=z3
And on a personal note, if Hillary is our nominee, I'll vote for her. Any Republican in the White House would doom us to many, many more years of hell.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)As president, she'll forever ruin our brand (what's left of it).
We'll see how it goes.
Autumn
(45,082 posts)as always. What about the poor? I have lost interest and any respect for Democrats who see only 2 classes of people and have no concern for the most vulnerable.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Hillary will receive obscene amounts of money from Corporate America. The people do not have any money to give her.
Corporate America does not throw their money away.
I want to hear what she has to say about the Chained CPI eg.
Is she disputing the lie that SS had ANYTHING to do with the Deficit, or has she made any statement about that most important issue?
Mmm, 'we will address the needs of the people'. That's just me telling you what I intend to do. Don't ask me how thought.
merrily
(45,251 posts)We do. She doesn not get to write on a clean slate, no matter how many tools try to make us believe that is what is happening.
She lost in 2008. Besides, since then, the national conversation shifted from Obama vowing the to WAPO that he would cut entitlements to when are the 99% finally going to get anything?
Of course, Hillary will try to re-brand herself. All the usual suspects whose livelihood and/or well being are predicated on Democratic politicians are trying, and will continue to try, to pretend that we have no idea who Hillary is; no idea what she believes in; no idea what she wants. They want us to believe that she can, at long last, finally tell us who is she now, like a virgin for the very first time.
Sorry, no mulligans. We've known her a long time. We know what she has done and not done, what she has voted for and not voted for.
Don't buy into this mythology.
Autumn
(45,082 posts)Our problem is that for some time now our leaders have had no vision or the vision they have had does not include the people. it breaks my heart but it's the truth and I agree, sorry, no mulligans.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I know what it is. Not in detail, perhaps, but we know. Yet, you have very little info about me and I about you, not even a real surname. No decades of observing each other in the public eye. How much better do we know Hillary's vision than we know each other's? Infinitely better.
IMO, it's shameful that Robinson and others are pretending she's been shrouded in mystery until now, about to spring from the head of Zeus for the first time, fully developed, as did Athena. Just a cipher. No record. No history. No baggage. "Please tell us your vision." "She's going to have to tell America her vision." That's all I am hearing now, much as all I was hearing a couple of years ago was that, if Hillary runs in 2016, no one will even oppose her in the primary. Frickin' brainwashing attempts.
What has happened to journalism in this country is pitiful and, as you said, what has happened to the Democratic Party is heartbreaking to Democrats.
And, lest we forget what has happened to the Party, it was the DLC, which Hillary helped found and spread to Europe. That philosophy spread to and through other think tanks, like Third Way, the Progressive Policy Institute, Center for American Progress and No Labels. And that philosophy has permeated and altered the Democratic Party so much that it is now the New Democrat Party.
No mystery. Still the same Hillary who sat on the board of WalMart, whose full time employees needed Medicaid and food stamps. Still the same Hillary who used the Heritage Foundation plan for America's health care as the model for Billarycare--and still couldn't get it passed.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and Henry Kissinger. I think that makes it pretty clear where she is coming from. You don't spend time ingratiating yourself to greedhead thieves and epic war criminals without giving away your vision of what the world should look like.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Oh, boy, am I stoked!
What? No Bilderburg group?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)If not solo, with Bill.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Carlyle Group.
Gee, life is getting complicated for the 1% isn't it? Bet they're grateful for Skype.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)We know her vision, and it's bleak for the 99%
tularetom
(23,664 posts)And besides, she's inevitable.
We shouldn't insist on anything from her especially specificity. Instead we should just lap up her glittering generalities and be grateful that she has decided to lead us.
merrily
(45,251 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Actually wasn't Obama elected to the Senate in 2004?
merrily
(45,251 posts)After I edit, I am going to pack it in for a while. I must have battle fatigue.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)and croaked "I'm back". God, it looked and sounded like something out of a horror show. She was attempting humor, but to some of us it was more scary than funny. Please, we don't need a stand up comic with close ties to the 1%ers.
For openers, one look at her clearly shows that she needs rest. America needs someone with creative energy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)her more overt campaign activities probably was not the smartest move.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)What Robinson seems to be demanding is a campaign announcement.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It seemed like a coordinated effort two years ago to convince us and potential candidates that if she entered the primary, there would be no point in anyone else's entering it. It seemed that way because everyone one on MSNBC and every Dem strategist was saying the identical thing in almost the identical words. For example, "If she decides to run, she'll clear the field," was something I heard over and over. As though this were not only a certainty, but a very normal thing for a Presidential primary.
For similar reasons, it seems like a coordinated effort now to pretend no one knows Hillary's vision for America yet--and also that we are all just panting to hear it.
I assumed it was a criticism. Hard to tell.
merrily
(45,251 posts)"She's going to have to stop playing this coy game of maybe I'll run; maybe I won't. She's going to have tell us what her vision for America is." Even Joe Scarborough said almost the same thing last week.
But, of course, she'll stop the bizarre coyness if and when she thinks she has a lock on the nomination and not before. She's not going to let Scarborough or Robinson decide when she stops.
So what is really going on? The public is getting the message again and again that no one, even the pundits, have any idea what Hillary's vision for America and won't have one until she announces it.
More in my replies 3 and 7. Of course, no one has to agree, but that is what I think is going on.