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Most recently, I have been on two jurys today on Discussionist and am totally disgusted by what is being allowed to remain posted. It appears that bigotry, racism and misogyny are deemed acceptable on that board.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Since many DU members are not on Discussionist, it might be better to make this thread over there. Seeing as how Skinner allows Discussionist to be fully moderated by members.
avebury
(10,952 posts)making a comment about a website with no connection with DU (started up by DU people_? I think not.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I mean, it would be really strange to read a thread criticizing a random, unrelated forum's moderation process in GD. So yeah, I'd be genuinely confused why something like that would be posted in GD. Unless it was some kind of proposal for DU to adopt their process or something.
Discussionist is only really related by the link provided when you don't log in, and by the owners. The site moderates itself. By posting a complaint here, many of the people moderating Discussionist can't read it.
avebury
(10,952 posts)http://www.discussionist.com/?com=contact
DIfferent PO Boxes might go a long way in separating out the two websites.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Who cares if he saves money by using the same PO box?
Make an account and put forth your complaint to people who can actually change the way things work at Discussionist.
http://www.discussionist.com/
avebury
(10,952 posts)former9thward
(31,972 posts)How crazy is that?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)stop trying to sell me Discussionist every damned time I log in to DU, then I will say they are independent! Until then, and not a second before then, will I consider whther or not to ignore the fact that that site is filled with those who have been kicked off here, and who brag of causing mischief here!
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)website with no ties ot DU? I think not.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)if the website had no ties to DU? I think not.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine it's convenient to purposefully confuse "concern" with "whine" when that's all one has...
pintobean
(18,101 posts)reading one of your posts again.
I made the mistake of reading one of your posts again.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)...or e-mail the owners, but either way I could not care less what gets discussed over there.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)but you don't.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,412 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,412 posts)It's called Chirpies. It's a canarial disease, and it's totally untweetable.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Bird people with feathers, claws and can fly?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)that never gets old.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)FSogol
(45,472 posts)and think this is the proper place to complain about it. It appears that vegetable flavors are deemed acceptable in that store.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)To everyone who shops across the street.
FSogol
(45,472 posts)The same guy owns both businesses, I think.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)I own two shares of Apple so if you're pissed about the iPhone 6, feel free to hit me up.
ProfessorGAC
(64,990 posts)You're a piker. I have 3. My investment in Apple is 50% higher than your investment!
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)You're going to get some serous hate mail.
And quite deservedly
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)makes sense to me.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Nor does sweet potato ice cream, come to think of it...
FSogol
(45,472 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Corn flavored ice cream might be great, but personally, I've gotten over my desire to try everything on the menu at the ice cream shop once I found my perfect flavor.
hlthe2b
(102,210 posts)I'm seeing it more and more throughout the day... Seems as though most DUers and other moderate/Liberals/Dems are rapidly giving up on the site, which is sure to make it worse.
Not my site, not my decisions for sure, but I'm not sure this is what admins had in mind...
I note those bemoaning your even posting this thread, seem to be regulars on DI--though their posts there surely often seem incongruous to those made here. Even a casual observer can not fail to notice...
avebury
(10,952 posts)founding fathers. I think that it has a tendency to have blowback on DU.
I made an additional comment post edit to previous post. I would bet you have noticed what I am referring to as well.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)seaglass
(8,171 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)in what they obviously feel is a sand box created solely for their sadistic pleasures.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They've never been able to get a lid/cup combination that doesn't leak, their coffee tastes like they burned the beans instead of roasting them and no matter what food product I ask for, they seem to be out of it.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)And there are no nipples to alert the management about.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)When I am on a business trip, I am excused from any and all human courtesies 24/7 for which I am not reimbursed!
lol
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Maybe we should covert it to a wiki?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)So that wouldn't fit in the Servers rant.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)They have nice stuffed seats in my Starbucks and their lattes are good. Otherwise, no thanks.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts).... theirs is bad ... really bad
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)and registered, with the same information I use here. It now refuses to accept me.
Maybe that is a really good thing.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)If so, you have to contact the admins here first. They blocked all DU usernames.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Okay, thanks. Didn't know that.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Warpy
(111,237 posts)for all the rabid assholes who are kicked off DU long before they reach triple digits in their posts.
It will exist as long as bored DUers want to use dumb and angry Republicans as chew toys.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)unlike DU where a Republican has to say he's a centrist Democrat.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)You reap what you sow, CD.
Hopefully you'll learn the lesson.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)why is that?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Duh.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)You know, MFM use to advise me not to respond to you when you're harassing DUers. That's good advice, but if I followed it all the time, we'd miss out on clever remarks like this.
JI7
(89,244 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)but I think it's wrong to make money off of hate and bigotry- and that's what's going on with discussionist. Skinner et al are providing a platform for hate and bigotry of the rankest kind in order to make a buck. is this a great country or what?
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...and, it is my opinion that linking to it from here adds insult to injury.
There's a definite conflict of interest going on; at minimum, it's a head scratcher. If they insist on working both sides of the political fence, it is my opinion that they should keep DI their dirty little secret and not link to it from here.
That said,... as long as DU has a bright yellow direct link to DI, DUers should expect that there will be other DUers who want to discuss it in GD.
TYY
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)I didn't post much there at all as I found it to be awful and smelly and mean. Lots of bigotries and hates of different varieties. I tend to agree with you that there is something really wrong in making money from that.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)Unless you don't believe what they said about it:
Discussionist is a general-interest discussion forum with a focus on current events. Unlike Democratic Underground, Discussionist is intended to be open to a wide range of different worldviews. It is not a safe-haven for a particular viewpoint, but we believe that the jury system will allow for robust, passionate discussions while maintaining a level of civility which is acceptable to the broad range of members.
cali
(114,904 posts)standards. And of course it's to make money.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)The mistake is to hold DU as the standard to be measured by. Anyone who doesn't like it there can stay here.
cali
(114,904 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)If you really believed that, I think you would just boycott them all together.
cali
(114,904 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)Many people have been run off from here for not following the current group think.
Personally I like and hate both sites. Often at the same time. And, FWIW, different opinions are allowed there. Here, not so much.
cali
(114,904 posts)is a platform for hate and bigotry. DU is not. This isn't about differing opinions. It's about straight out, unadulterated hate and bigotry which is so prevalent on Discussionist.
Response to cali (Reply #116)
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)first page on hof and find one "man hating" OP.
The HoF group et al spews nothing but man-hate.
i would beg to differ where the hate.... is coming from
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)You don't know me. So don't make those kinds of comments about me.
My disgust for HoF is due to their treatment of members when offered an opposing opinion in the posts there.
I disagreed once and was immediately banned from the group. So don't talk to me about where the hate is coming from.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you did not follow the hof statement, and was banned (i do not know why) so this statement is justified in your mind. ""The HoF group et al spews nothing but man-hate. "
if we spew nothing but man hate, then surely it would not be hard to link to ONE example. i mean.... NOTHING but man hate.
otherwise, i am seeing a comment like that to be nothing but hateful
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)I placed the group on ignore after that. And now I'm putting you there. Buh-bye.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)then you go away. what would that be?
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)I have to agree.
There is just as much hatred and bigotry here as on DI.
But perhaps it's OK because it's hatred of, and bigotry toward, people we're not supposed to like anyway.
I dare anybody to tell me that hatred isn't behind some of the grave-dancing that goes on when a particularly obnoxious Republican dies.
And there's a general hatred toward them anyway. Which, hey...it's going to happen. But to see it happen here and then be told we're not seeing what we're seeing...hell no! DU is all rainbows and furry bunnies and cute little bluebirds.
We see men hating women. Women hating men.
Hatred toward Christians.
A particularly vicious hatred of cops.
Ageism.
Fat-ism (bigotry toward fat people anyone? yeah, it's here)
Plenty of hatred and bigotry to go around here at DU as well, and hatred is hatred, no matter who the target is.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the more of us, as progressives that speak up, the less we will have. the more we will have a community that says, hate is not ok.
right?
eridani
(51,907 posts)--where those who are so inclined are allowed to tease the wildlife. If they're over there, they're not over here.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)hating, i tend to believe some of ours go over to unite with the trolls.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025544565#post118
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)I agree 100%. It's a disgusting way to make a living.
Response to cali (Reply #39)
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I don't visit Discussionist, Free Republic, Red State or any other site I don't care for.
You have a choice of where you want to click. Declaring that such a place should not exist does not mean that it doesn't, and you don't have to go there.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)what MrScorpio does with it. Otherwise, it's a waste of time. Stormfront Lite.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)Trying to conduct a serious discussion with PeeWee Herman
is not my idea of a productive or sensible use of time.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)the past,I really don't care what goes on there.The times I've looked in over there in seems to move at a slow crawl and attracts mostly members of the Society To Preserve The Angry Internet Manchild Association.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Why talk trash about another website on this website? I don't get it. Start a thread there. That's my suggestion.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)but the connections aren't magically disappeared with that statement.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)HuckleB
(35,773 posts)... we hated the jury system.
The jury system has allowed the creators of DU and Discussionist to make plenty of money, with much fewer headaches.
I don't blame for that, but I do acknowledge that things have gone off the rails, because of that, too.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)The administrators don't seem to have a issue with that.
Atman
(31,464 posts)"Conservative Cesspool," sponsored by DU.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Best not to encourage them. It just makes a bad place that much worse.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Best not talk about them?
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)why should Discussionist be anything but a cesspool?
sP
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I do see some news stories there that I might have missed elsewhere. Otherwise, the forums seem to move very slowly. It seems to have only a few really active posters.
It seems that I get called for jury duty there almost as soon as I log on (when I do). I agree, the "standards" for hiding posts seem much different from what would be allowed here. But then, they are not DU and have different norms or standards, or whatever.
As others have said, if you don't care for it, don't participate. Problem solved!
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)I haven't even gone over there to lurk. It sounds pretty nasty and I really don't want to get angry, it just doesn't sound like fun.
Don't really enjoy talking to bull-headed people that are just looking for a fight.
Hell, there's plenty of trouble to stumble into here, without going to look for it there.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I predicted it would turn into a RW cesspool and I was right. Was not hard to see.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)totally predictable.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,761 posts)alp227
(32,015 posts)Bottom line: Civility and an "everything goes" atmosphere (weak moderation) cannot co-exist.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)No, wait, that was somewhere else. Oops!
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I used to go there almost everyday to see what was going on, but it became increasingly difficult to stomach what gets posted there. I still check in there now and then, but nowhere near as frequently as I used to.
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)It is bad enough that DU meta is discussed here - please don't bring Discussionist meta here.
demwing
(16,916 posts)what's so difficult?
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)Some poor Republican or conservative babies were offended by what I said. Maybe if I resorted to bigotry, racism, or misogyny, my posts would stand.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Like one poster who constantly posts stories (some of them years old) about violent black criminals, but is indignant at any suggestion of racist tendencies. I got my only DI hide thus far tangling with him.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)The one and only Frank being one of them.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)I've had one post hidden here at DU3 and that was over two years ago. At DI with less then 50 posts made, I've had 3 posts alerted on, that I know of, and one of which was hidden.
Gothmog
(145,086 posts)They are fun to play with and poke fun at. They really do not have a sense of humor and can not use facts