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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:01 PM Sep 2014

Ex-Auschwitz Guard Oskar Groening Accused of Role in 300K Deaths

MAINZ, Germany -- A 93-year-old German has been charged with 300,000 counts of accessory to murder for serving as a Nazi SS guard at Adolf Hitler’s Auschwitz death camp, prosecutors announced Monday. Oskar Groening is suspected of aiding the Nazis' killing machine at the notorious concentration camp between May and July 1944, when some 425,000 Jews from Hungary were deported to Auschwitz and at least 300,000 were almost immediately murdered. Groening, who reportedly is in good health and who has been questioned, is one of about 30 former Auschwitz guards who German federal prosecutors started investigating last year. That move followed the successful prosecution of former U.S. autoworker John Demjanjuk, who was convicted in 2011 of 28,060 counts of being an accessory to murder.

Earlier this year, Nazi hunters presented their recommendations to authorities in Hannover, who launched a formal investigation. “This case triggered intensive and historic research in the archives,” Hannover prosecutor Kathrin Soefker told NBC News. Groening is not in custody. In 2005, Groening was interviewed by Germany’s Der Spiegel magazine and said that he had witnessed horrific atrocities, but did not commit any crimes himself. “Accomplice would almost be too much for me," he said. "I would describe my role as a 'small cog in the gears.' If you can describe that as guilt, then I am guilty, but not voluntarily. Legally speaking, I am innocent." Judges in the northern city of Lueneburg will now decide whether a court case will be opened and if and when a trial could start.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ex-auschwitz-guard-oskar-groening-accused-role-300k-deaths-n204216

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Ex-Auschwitz Guard Oskar Groening Accused of Role in 300K Deaths (Original Post) joeybee12 Sep 2014 OP
I wonder how these people live with themselves. Scootaloo Sep 2014 #1
The world's greatest atrocities were acts of obedience. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #2
This isn't exactly what Hannah Ahrendt meant by... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #3
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. I wonder how these people live with themselves.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:06 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder about myself in the same position. A conscripted soldier put on guard detail at a place like that. After it's over, how can I just go and hide and pretend nothing happened, and not just end myself in a week or two? To go on for the better part of a century, how the fuck isthat possible?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. The world's greatest atrocities were acts of obedience.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:09 PM
Sep 2014

Respecting the law should not be seen as a virtue, in my opinion.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. This isn't exactly what Hannah Ahrendt meant by...
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:17 PM
Sep 2014

"banality of evil" but it's the first thing that crossed my mind.

This guy was a part of a mass murder and probably should pay a price, even at this late date. But, he was not a gang banger, mobster, deviate, or natural born killer. He was a guy who, if not for the war and Nazism, might have lived his life in obscurity and general peace. He's paying for the crimes of his bosses and his own inability to say "no" to his job.

There might be an argument that over 60 years he might have lived a life that atoned for his time at Auschwitz. Or, there might be an argument that his crimes were so vast that they can never be atoned for.

Of course, having been an SS member means he had some choice in the matter at some point.




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