Anybody Else Just Tired Of It All ???

[WillyT]

Whether we're talking about future candidates/elections...

Future wars...

Future Climate collapse...

Future collapse of the middle/working class...

And the always wonderfulness of being insulted/lied too in the process...

I'm not sure I can play "fair" anymore...

[Skittles]

1. I think it is outrage, disgust and heartbreak fatigue

it is very debilitating

[WillyT]

2. :hug:

[NYC_SKP]

7. Skilsz, Skittles. I remember my first reply to you back in the Bush days.

It was about hope, not drama.

Not to say that drama isn't useful.

Actually it was more about Skittles, literally, I wonder if you recall the exchange.

[WillyT]

14. Skittles... Is Da Bomb... Just So Ya Know...

[NYC_SKP]

17. Reminded of a moment.

Imagine a teacher keeping a list and publishing it.

Caught being good.

This, among juvenile hall kids. I have fought battles with reformers and deformers and have the almost unique characteristic of having actually been a teacher.

I know....

Amazing what DU members don't know about their DU community neighbors.

[WillyT]

18. Hey NYC...

I was a teacher for 8+ years...

I had a whole bunch of kids go up to the next "level" of their grade...

I took many kids over the years to Washington D.C, to teach them about our country.

And some days... I get kinda embarrassed about that sorta xenophobia.

[NYC_SKP]

19. Thank you, friend!

My very early exchange with the DU member Skittles had to do with an extrinsic reward used with my wards, students, victims.

Skittles, one Skittle for any response. Crazy, right?

Caught being good? WTF is that for a classroom full of delinquents, right?

[Warpy]

47. Yes, I've been sinking into silly computer games lately

because the country is making me so angry, sad and tired, all at the same time.

[Kelvin Mace]

3. Many day,

More frequently of late, I have to walk away. It just gets too depressing.

[lovemydog]

4. Yes. I'm in it for the long haul

so I try and take frequent breaks. I know how you feel. I often feel that way.

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. I am indeed. And after watching the PBS Roosevelts

humanity seems like endless groundhog day. Same bullshit, different era. The inherent flaws of human beings - greed, power, hypocrisy, you name it - seem to trump things every time.

But we seem to be at a particular point where we are no longer capable of big ideas, big successes, big collaborations. Could you imagine a moon landing mission/objective finding success if it was up to funding/agreement these days?

[JEB]

6. Waiting for rain out here on the Oregon coast,

brings the salmon into the rivers and Chanterelles into the forest. Now that is real life. Too bad we get fucked over every time we don't pay attention. All too often even when we are paying attention.

[rhett o rick]

24. Hey where on the Oregon Coast? I was raised in Portland and have visited the Oregon

I think, almost every year of my life. Recently in Cannon Beach and a couple of months ago we were in Newport, one of our favorite places. I love salmon and surgeon.

[JEB]

27. Lincoln City for the past 35 years.

Have lived in Coos Bay and eastern Oregon (Burns, La Grande) in my youth. College days in Eugene. My son lives in Portland and we visit often especially since the birth of twin grand babies.

[rhett o rick]

29. Very cool. My wife was born in Coos Bay. We both love the Oregon Coast but don't let it

out how great it is. We don't want a bunch of tourists. LOL. For many years my folks had a small shack in Pacific City. I don't know how many times I walked that beach with out seeing anyone else. Now it's built up a lot.

[Scootaloo]

35. Lincoln City is a nice place

I would have liked to stay in Tillamook, but since the only place to work there was th dairy, and I had no reliable transportation...

[JEB]

40. LC is kind of a mess of tourist shops etc.

The Siletz casino is the biggest employer. Lots of freelancers eking out a living do a bit of this and a bit of that. We enjoy a fairly Liberal population, but we do have our share of wingnuts, tea baggers and religious wackos. All the hills of the coast range have been logged and probably relogged. I know of one place never logged called the Valley of the Giants. Some very big trees and of course the waves are still rolling in.

[misterhighwasted]

8. I too had envisioned a much better America after

the 60's & 70's. Seems we are still fighting the same fight, different day.
I am weary of it all.

[Lifelong Protester]

9. It is getting to be a bit much

I try to remain hopeful, but some days.....

[madville]

10. Step away

I try to view politics as entertainment these days, really not worth stressing too much over I try to tell myself.

When I get worked up over an issue I log out and spend some time in reality, which most internet discussion boards have no basis in to begin with

[blkmusclmachine]

11. Well, we have a Democratic Party that does NOT support its Party Plank. Oh, sure, it pays LIP SERVIC

to it for the elections, but then willfully abandons it and its voters to seek phony "compromise" with an unwilling, obstructionist, hardline, lockstep GOP that is hell-bent on always shouting "NO!!!" from every rooftop. And then the DEMS try to convince us that we're to blame for its failures and election losses.

Face it, BOTH Parties are beholden to the same super wealthy 1%. It's just that our "Leaders" are better liars at hiding it than the cronies over at the GOP.

[BlueJazz]

12. I've actually accepted the sadness of what's most likely to happen to this part of the human..

existence. Most of us have tried to do our best to change the course of, what appears to be, the disastrous headlong rush to some sort of extinction of a large share of humanity.

I used to worry and fret constantly about the future but lately I've come to the realization that perhaps nothing I've done can change the final outcome. I DO know that my caring has changed myself for the better. I just know that my actions are only of massive importance to me. ...and perhaps that's the best I can hope for.

[Rex]

13. I'm tired of war.

War is debilitating our species ability to progress to the next level of existence.

[WillyT]

15. Me Too... But It's More Than That... It's Trying To Figure Out If We Can Have A Peaceful Planet...

While Our "Friends Our Waging War"

[grasswire]

16. my go to inspiration

The Low Road

What can they do to you?
Whatever they want..

They can set you up, bust you,
they can break your fingers,
burn your brain with electricity,
blur you with drugs till you
can’t walk, can’t remember.
they can take away your children,
wall up your lover;
they can do anything you can’t stop them doing.

How can you stop them?
Alone you can fight, you can refuse.
You can take whatever revenge you can
But they roll right over you.
But two people fighting back to back
can cut through a mob
a snake-dancing fire
can break a cordon,
termites can bring down a mansion

Two people can keep each other sane
can give support, conviction,
love, massage, hope, sex.

Three people are a delegation
a cell, a wedge.
With four you can play games
and start a collective.
With six you can rent a whole house
have pie for dinner with no seconds
and make your own music.

Thirteen makes a circle,
a hundred fill a hall.
A thousand have solidarity
and your own newsletter;
ten thousand community
and your own papers;
a hundred thousand,
a network of communities;
a million our own world.

It goes one at a time.
It starts when you care to act.
It starts when you do it again
after they say no.
It starts when you say we
and know who you mean;
and each day you mean
one more.

- Marge Piercy

In other words, each of us is important to the struggle. Solidarity.

[hibbing]

22. My go to inspiration...often

“TO BE HOPEFUL in bad times is not just foolishly romantic. It is based on the fact that human history is a history not only of cruelty, but also of compassion, sacrifice, courage, kindness.
What we choose to emphasize in this complex history will determine our lives. If we see only the worst, it destroys our capacity to do something. If we remember those times and places—and there are so many—where people have behaved magnificently, this gives us the energy to act, and at least the possibility of sending this spinning top of a world in a different direction.
And if we do act, in however small a way, we don’t have to wait for some grand utopian future. The future is an infinite succession of presents, and to live now as we think human beings should live, in defiance of all that is bad around us, is itself a marvelous victory.”
― Howard Zinn

Peace

[gwheezie]

31. I adore marge piercy

Thank you for that

[cantbeserious]

20. Yes - Willy - Very Tired

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[panader0]

21. I'm a buoyant person.

I think happiness is a very good thing. Each morning I try to empty my worries out. I try to do what I think is right. I fail sometimes, like being lazy. There is always some honest activity to do.

[OriginalGeek]

23. Sick of it all?

don't mind if I doooo

Always picks me up.

[Jeff Rosenzweig]

25. no

[grahamhgreen]

26. I am absolutely disgusted that people cut foods stamps then chose war. SICK>

[mountain grammy]

28. Well, at least you're talking about the future as if there'll be one.

That's a bit of optimism in itself. My personal future is fairly short, but I'm terrified for my granddaughters.

[kairos12]

30. Zero/Dumb game

Remember, dealing with the Faux News listeners it's only a Zero/Dumb Game. There is zero chance these dumb asses will understand anything you say.

[ballyhoo]

32. I am. Don't even like turning on the machine

anymore. Is this living?

[gwheezie]

33. I'm feeling revved up

I'm talking to people. Going to meetings. Getting out and about. I don't expect things to change so I am surprised if something does.

[ReRe]

34. Yes, Dear WillyT

Tired. And when I get tired, I walk away and bake some chocolate chip cookies from scratch. Then I get some rest. Then I come back.

Playing fair? I'm sick of tired of being nice and playing fair. I turned that corner during GWB's eight years in office.

Love ya.

[jtuck004]

36. LOL - "I'm not sure I can play "fair" anymore... " < That's what you get when you play THEIR game.

Frustration.

Quit playing it. Walk toward something else, make your own with others.

It's more fun anyway, and you get to laugh at the stuffy ass clowns attempts to silence and rule you when they don't know your rules

[oldandhappy]

37. Take a break!

These things wear us out. Go camping or plant winter vegetables or adopt a cat, smile. Be sure to vote, and then come back roaring for 2016. And there is not much fairness out there. Just do what is best for you. We are with you.

[JonLP24]

38. Yes

Carlin's skit on "bullshit" describes it all.

[Blue_In_AK]

39. Yes

I'm so tired of it all that I'm not answering my phone because I don't want to answer polls, and I'm afraid the candidates want me to volunteer to make calls, which I HATE. I've made contributions, I'm going to vote, but that's it for me this year. My candidates never win anyway, so there's not much I can do about it.

[Cartoonist]

41. What consoles me

Even though my life is drawing to a close, and I fear that is also the fate of humanity, or at least civilization, there is always something that brings me solace, joy, and a bit of smugness. The Beatles. America, if not the world, was a completely different place before 1964. The memories of being alive during Beatlemania are precious. There has been nothing like it since. Only the Big Band era can compete with the excitement and energy that was the 60's. So what went wrong? It's too easy to blame the republicans.

On a happier note, there is hope, because the world was in the same condition once. The cold war struck fear everywhere, even in rural America. Schoolkids were taught to duck under their desks during a nuclear attack. Personal bomb shelters were being built in cozy suburbia. My brother asked my father during the Cuban missile crisis if we were going to die. We didn't. Then the Beatles happened.

Who knows what the morning sun will bring? Tomorrow never knows.

[defacto7]

42. Yes, WillyT

and not so much for myself but for my kids and their future... I can't even die peacefully knowing there's hope for them and that things won't change drastically... and what was I able to help them do to survive? Yea, I am damn sick of it all. Peace is either a euphoric panacea from a non-existent deity or it's denial. Reality sucks, but I'd rather look reality in the eye than create a lie to help me feel better.

[gordianot]

43. Since 1968 at the age of 16.

I felt OK for a while when they threw Nixon out of the White House. Cousin Poppy Bush showed up (according to my late Grandfather a distant cousin) and it has been down hill ever since. Something evil this way comes. My wife, kids and Granddaughter keep me going.

[fadedrose]

44. This stuff used to affect me as it does you

but since I got old and have so many aches and pains, a lot of times I stop watching the news and take a nap. Try it. Doesn't solve the world's problems, but surely the world wasn't depending on me to fix them anyway.

[jambo101]

45. Its become like a tv show that you dont enjoy anymore.

Either turn it off or change the channel as its only going to get more intense as time goes on.

[Uncle Joe]

46. The key is living in the present.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[MFM008]

48. yes I'll have a big piece of I'm sick of that

[Dawgs]

49. No way. I can't wait until presidential election season starts.

And, how is anything you listed, other than climate collapse, any different than any other time in history?

I guess being able to get on the internet and read about this stuff every day might have something to do with it.

[malaise]

50. Tired is an understatement

Fed up begins to express my feelings

[Katashi_itto]

51. I just don't care anymore. The country is crumbling.

Critical thinking is gone. Just a bunch of reactionary impulses make up the flabby American psyche.
You see it here all the time and we are supposed to be the intellectuals.

[Le Taz Hot]

52. Oh yeah.

And I take a break and go do something else for awhile. " Awhile" could be a few hours, days, weeks, or months. As liberals, we care what happens to people, to our community, our country and our planet and all have problems that are deep and wide. Caring about them is exhausting. Take a break if you need to and just go do something completely unrelated.

See you when you get back.

LTH

[snooper2]

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We haven't had one of these in a while!

I can do a little boo hoo as well, until you see............... the HELLCAT!



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[damnedifIknow]

54. Without a doubt

[Autumn]

55. There are times Willy I see only a continuation of the same old BS

I'm old and don't think I give a shit anymore, I don't see any way of changing those things. We get more of the same, every time.

[H2O Man]

56. No, not really.

I'm convinced that all of life imitates the sport of boxing. As a young man, I learned to pace myself, and to take full advantage of the minute's rest between rounds. I make a point of using that same frame of mind in all areas of my life.

I also keep in mind that I am only responsible for my own actions. For example, 20 years ago, I was involved in a situation where the US EPA was attempting to get a large defense industry to clean up a 120-acre toxic waste dump site. It was a case that I had been involved in for almost twenty years before that; it eventually went to trial in federal court (not surprisingly, the defense industry "won&quot .

My good friend Rubin "Hurricane" Carter's case dragged on for 20 years; I was involved with his defense for over ten years. And the work I've done on Native American rights (primarily burial protection and repatriation) is never-ending.

It was about 40 years ago that Onondaga Chief Oren Lyons told me that the good work we do in our life times is unlikely to bring satisfying results in our times; yet it is the foundation that the next generation will have available to build upon. I always keep that in mind.