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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:39 AM Sep 2014

Vikings announce RB Adrian Peterson is out...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24712624/vikings-announce-rb-adrian-peterson-is-out-until-legal-issues-are-resolved

Less than 48 hours after announcing that Adrian Peterson would play in Week 3, the Vikings have had a change of heart. The team announced early Wednesday morning that Peterson has been placed on the Exempt/Commissioner's Permission list.

The designation means that Peterson won't be allowed to participate in any team activities, including games, until his legal issues are resolved.

More at link...


With sponsors pulling out and outrage growing, the Vikings have decided to cut their losses and sit Adrian Peterson for the time being. Public outrage appears to have overridden the lust for cash. That's a good thing.
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Vikings announce RB Adrian Peterson is out... (Original Post) MineralMan Sep 2014 OP
Yeah...and Goodell still has a job. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #1
For now, anyhow. MineralMan Sep 2014 #4
I think you're right. I don't see how he survives this. too many blunders too close together. cali Sep 2014 #8
Yes, and there may well be other cases waiting in the wings. MineralMan Sep 2014 #12
Well, not really HERVEPA Sep 2014 #2
And they were doing that based on public input. MineralMan Sep 2014 #6
Sponsors pull out based on public input because they are merrily Sep 2014 #19
I'm guessing he won't play again for the Vikings. Brickbat Sep 2014 #3
I think you're probably right, but we'll have to see. MineralMan Sep 2014 #10
Yep, the stadium is why I think they'll find a way to get rid of him. Brickbat Sep 2014 #17
The bidding for naming rights is just about to start. MineralMan Sep 2014 #18
The list of NFL running backs that have performed at an incredibly high bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #20
Peterson's game was at a pretty good peak, but he's almost 30. MineralMan Sep 2014 #21
Just off the top of my head. Jenoch Sep 2014 #40
make no mistake... the lust for cash has now driven his 'suspension' ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #5
Both. See Reply 7 merrily Sep 2014 #9
i can't disagree with any of that ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #24
The NFL's lust for cash is very much tied to bowing to public outrage. merrily Sep 2014 #7
Chemical possibilities get the red out Sep 2014 #11
I'm not sure. Could be, but for me it's MineralMan Sep 2014 #14
Yep. Just like baseball didn't give a damn about juicing as long as it merrily Sep 2014 #16
The NFL organization is not for profit, not the teams, executives, Jenoch Sep 2014 #32
? I said the NFL was. Didn't say the rest were. merrily Sep 2014 #39
maybe, these two events will get nfl thinking. my boys love football, and talk about players, seabeyond Sep 2014 #13
Yes. I'm hoping parents open a dialog about this with MineralMan Sep 2014 #15
my youngest plays. and not necessarily for the game, but for the group social aspect. seabeyond Sep 2014 #22
That's true. There are plenty of HS football coaches who MineralMan Sep 2014 #23
"The exceptions to that are the ones that get noticed, sadly." seabeyond Sep 2014 #27
also, there are a lot of things i like about peterson. this is not all that he is. seabeyond Sep 2014 #28
The lust for cash is bigger than AP! GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #25
Actually the worry about lost cash is bigger than AP. MineralMan Sep 2014 #26
I'm not convinced the Wilfs will sell the team. Jenoch Sep 2014 #34
Perhaps. However, once the stadium is built, MineralMan Sep 2014 #37
on a Packer fan website I visit, there's a rumor the new commish could be Condi Rice!!! a kennedy Sep 2014 #29
This is a good decision by the vikings Gothmog Sep 2014 #30
Well, they finally did the right thing. MineralMan Sep 2014 #31
too bad that they would not do the right thing, for the right reasons, niyad Sep 2014 #33
Yes, it is too bad. Not unexpected, but too bad. MineralMan Sep 2014 #35
so true. "and, if you believe that nonsense, I have some great niyad Sep 2014 #38
"Bad PR? Possible loss of revenue? Aristus Sep 2014 #36

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. For now, anyhow.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:43 AM
Sep 2014

I'm not sure he's going to survive this. I don't really care, because I'm not a football fan, really, but I think he may be handing over a resignation fairly soon.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. I think you're right. I don't see how he survives this. too many blunders too close together.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:45 AM
Sep 2014

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Yes, and there may well be other cases waiting in the wings.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:47 AM
Sep 2014

I expect to hear more about domestic and child abuse cases soon.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. And they were doing that based on public input.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:44 AM
Sep 2014

The Vikings and the NFL are also getting a lot of public input. Ticket sales are down, too, for Vikings games. Yes, it's about money, but money doesn't do all the talking.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
19. Sponsors pull out based on public input because they are
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:56 AM
Sep 2014

afraid they will lose money if they don't.

Like the poster said, cash is king, for that lot, anyway.

Journalism and its advertisers are making bank on this story.

The only ones who stand to make no money from this are people like us.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. I think you're probably right, but we'll have to see.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:45 AM
Sep 2014

Either way, the Vikings are more hosed than ever now. And there's that billion dollar stadium under construction, too. As many say in Minnesota, "Uff da!"

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
17. Yep, the stadium is why I think they'll find a way to get rid of him.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:51 AM
Sep 2014

Losing Radisson is a big blow. They need to stop the exodus quickly, before the brand is totally shot. Peterson's almost 30, and his performance last year was down from his big year in 2012. He was a fan favorite, but now tainted.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. The bidding for naming rights is just about to start.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

This whole business probably has made some of the potential naming rights candidates rethink even bidding at all. For me, the brand has been shot for a long time, and I was an active opponent of building this edifice to a kid's sport. I would have been perfectly happy with the Los Angeles Vikings, frankly.

The team owners, the Wilf family, are almost certainly planning to sell the team as soon as the new stadium is complete and the value of the team peaks. Screw 'em all, as far as I'm concerned.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
20. The list of NFL running backs that have performed at an incredibly high
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:56 AM
Sep 2014

level over the course of many seasons is an extremely short one. In fact, I'm trying to think of ONE at this point. Completely different when compared to QBs, WRs, linemen on both sides of the ball, etc.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
21. Peterson's game was at a pretty good peak, but he's almost 30.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:58 AM
Sep 2014

Running backs don't tend to have long careers. Anyhow, I think this one's career is all but done.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
40. Just off the top of my head.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 01:50 PM
Sep 2014

Emmett Smith, Walter Payton, and Marcus Allen come to mind. I don't follow the NFL too much these days.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
5. make no mistake... the lust for cash has now driven his 'suspension'
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:44 AM
Sep 2014

this is about the sponsors... not the fans...

sP

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
24. i can't disagree with any of that
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:13 AM
Sep 2014

i guess i should have been more specific... i don't think DIRECT fan pressure on the Vikings is making the change. but certainly the indirect pressure that fans have 'caused' in sponsors and tax-base.

i had not heard of the 'chemical' aspect of this... certainly could be!

good morning...
sP

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. The NFL's lust for cash is very much tied to bowing to public outrage.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:44 AM
Sep 2014

For just one thing, a sponsor pulled out before this announcement, after alleged beating of another son came to light.

For another, the growing demographic of ticket buyers is women.

For another, taxpayers subsidize pro sports.

For another, people are starting to inquire if there are chemical causes for this, due to, um, medications that the players might be taking.

The NFL cannot afford to be the face of brutality to women and children by men whose profession requires them to be physically strong.


get the red out

(13,462 posts)
11. Chemical possibilities
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:46 AM
Sep 2014

That has been one of my questions all along!

But what bothers me is that if there hadn't been a public outcry; the NFL wouldn't have given a damn, period.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. I'm not sure. Could be, but for me it's
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:49 AM
Sep 2014

the football culture, where big tough guys are the heroes, starting way back in high school. The culture has allowed many cases of sexual assault, physical assault and other crimes to slide for football players at the high school, college, and professional level. It's an accross-the-board problem, I think.

The football culture breeds this kind of contempt for acceptable behavior, I believe.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. Yep. Just like baseball didn't give a damn about juicing as long as it
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:50 AM
Sep 2014

was filling the seats.

Did you see the per game figures for these guys? If they're making that much, imagine what the owners and league bigwigs make.

I don't know about baseball, one way or the other, but the NFL gets not for profit status. Not to mention stadiums that taxpayers build or subsidize. And, I don't about the NFL, but baseball is exempt from antitrust laws. So, we all have a stake in this.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
32. The NFL organization is not for profit, not the teams, executives,
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

other staff, or the players.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
39. ? I said the NFL was. Didn't say the rest were.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 01:39 PM
Sep 2014

Either you missed my point or I am missing yours, but I don't know which.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. maybe, these two events will get nfl thinking. my boys love football, and talk about players,
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:47 AM
Sep 2014

statistics with me and so often, when they talk about a player i ask.... is this one i get to like.

we do not mess with the ones that we knowingly are allowed to do wrong, with no repercussion cause they are stars.

if nothing else, it gives the boys awareness, in a culture that lacks awareness.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
15. Yes. I'm hoping parents open a dialog about this with
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:50 AM
Sep 2014

their teenagers who play football. Some changes are long needed in the culture of football.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. my youngest plays. and not necessarily for the game, but for the group social aspect.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:59 AM
Sep 2014

which gives me a little relief. having been a highly competitive athlete myself for a good 15 yrs, that is odd coming from me. i have an older son, very competitive in cross country/track. that is more who we are. but i totally embrace the younger son that does it to hang out in groups. he is a social animal. not a competitive one.

BUT.... it does allow me to be a part of the football culture in high school. this is a big thing with me. the football players mentality and coaches. integrity. character.

it has been fun, because this particular school, the coaches work hard at instilling character. and my son will often come home, telling me the coaches lecture, on responsibility and character.

it has been interesting.

we hear the football mentality of stuebenville, but there are a lot more schools that are aware of the issue and work hard to counter.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
23. That's true. There are plenty of HS football coaches who
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:02 AM
Sep 2014

recognize their responsibility to help create good young men. The exceptions to that are the ones that get noticed, sadly.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. "The exceptions to that are the ones that get noticed, sadly."
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:32 AM
Sep 2014

i kinda have a thing about this sentence, and let me share why, lol.

too many of the exceptions are hidden, and it is good today, that each and every one is brought to the light. we need balance. not throw baby out with bath water, but.... obviously it is awareness that lets us society wise, say no to certain unacceptable behavior. and why it is unacceptable. education. good stuff and what progression is made from.

the same with the spanking issue. what i experienced in the 60's and why today, thru discussing it, becoming informed, literally just friggin thinking, we see that there are other means of discipline (both in punishment and learning) that are much more effective, honest, connected ot our children that allows it to become character, rather than learned... thru fear, be sure to hide mistakes or wrong.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
28. also, there are a lot of things i like about peterson. this is not all that he is.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:34 AM
Sep 2014

and it was learned, from the environment he is. it is a bummer that someone could not step up, or he could not understand this is not the answer.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
26. Actually the worry about lost cash is bigger than AP.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:29 AM
Sep 2014

When sponsors started pulling out, the Vikings owners, faced with the immediate auction for naming rights, got really worried about that deal. They're counting on the naming rights contract to help bail them out from their portion of the stadium building issue. Also, ticket sales went in the toilet over the AP deal.

The Vikings will be for sale when the stadium is complete and they can play in it. I can almost guarantee that. How much the team is worth in that sale is a prime concern of the Wilfs, who own the team.

Lost money is the concern.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
34. I'm not convinced the Wilfs will sell the team.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:21 PM
Sep 2014

Owning an NFL team is like having a license to print money.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
37. Perhaps. However, once the stadium is built,
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:24 PM
Sep 2014

the selling price for the team will reach a level that will cause them to sell, I think. They are, at their core, developers, not football people. They got slammed recently with a huge fraud judgement. I believe they well sell, once the stadium is finished. We'll see, of course.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
35. Yes, it is too bad. Not unexpected, but too bad.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:22 PM
Sep 2014

They just finished a news conference, where they pretended that this wasn't about money. They lied.

niyad

(113,278 posts)
38. so true. "and, if you believe that nonsense, I have some great
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 12:25 PM
Sep 2014

oceanfront property in new mexico for you."

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