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randys1

(16,286 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 02:45 PM Sep 2014

Hillary is the Dem candidate, Fill in the blank is the Repub...what do you do? ?

Not doing a poll, I wanna hear from Democrats, maybe you are not liberals or progresssives, but per another thread this is Hillary


No salary increase for Congress until minimum wage increased. (Jul 2007)
Would accept minimum wage as president. (Jul 2007)
Stand up for unions; organize for fair wages. (Jun 2007)
Get tough with China and bring jobs back home. (Feb 2007)
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages. (Dec 2006)
Passed 2 planks of 7-plank platform, “New Jobs for New York”. (Oct 2006)
Minimum wage should be tied to congressional salaries. (Jun 2006)
Pushed for extension of unemployment insurance. (Feb 2004)
The working poor deserve a living wage. (Oct 1999)
America can afford to raise the minimum wage. (Sep 1999)
Recently “we’re in it together” became “you’re on your own”. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Nov 2008)
Voted NO on terminating legal challenges to English-only job rules. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on increasing minimum wage to $7.25. (Feb 2007)
Voted YES on raising the minimum wage to $7.25 rather than $6.25. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
Protect overtime pay protections. (Jun 2003)
Rated 85% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record. (Dec 2003)
Allow an Air Traffic Controller's Union. (Jan 2006)
Sponsored bill linking minimum wage to Congress' pay raises. (May 2006)
Extend unemployment compensation during recession. (Jan 2008)
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue. (Jan 2009)
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination. (Jan 2009)



http://www.ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm


And we know pretty much where any con stands on these issues and more, right.

So tell me please what you do on election day...
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Hillary is the Dem candidate, Fill in the blank is the Repub...what do you do? ? (Original Post) randys1 Sep 2014 OP
Hold my nose, vote for Hillary, and hope she has the coattails to guarantee a Congressional majority Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #1
^^^ THIS ^^^ KamaAina Sep 2014 #9
I ignore this counter-productive distraction and focus on 2014 n/t arcane1 Sep 2014 #2
Vote for the person who best represents the interests of the middle/lower classes. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
I'll vote for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #4
What if anti war (allegedly) Rand Paul is the repub candidate? randys1 Sep 2014 #13
Nope. Read the "progressive" part of my statement. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #16
Vote for the one with experience and record, it will be Hillary. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #5
Shoot the hostage? TlalocW Sep 2014 #6
Same as I did in 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 when I was unhappy Rowdyboy Sep 2014 #7
I'll vote for someone else Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #8
Get drunk on my ass, stupid drunk, and vote for Hillary. nt Logical Sep 2014 #10
write in Glen Greenwald KG Sep 2014 #11
I keep feeling that this week's assignment is to nail down support for Hillary. Even if asking djean111 Sep 2014 #12
Yep, this question is a waste of time and distraction, and i did it because randys1 Sep 2014 #14
Vote for Clinton because despite everything she may or may not be justiceischeap Sep 2014 #15
^^THIS^^ Terra Alta Sep 2014 #19
I think the point is not to have Hillary the one against Cruz or those other rubbish heaps. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #21
I'm all for challengers if they can win justiceischeap Sep 2014 #25
Of course, as I said, Hillary is not my first choice Terra Alta Sep 2014 #33
Say fuck it and retire to Mexico. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #17
Look at the numbers in my state right before the election. hifiguy Sep 2014 #18
+1 LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #20
Exactly. Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #22
I live in a swing state (NC) Terra Alta Sep 2014 #24
The state you are in makes a big difference. hifiguy Sep 2014 #26
What is the makeup of Congress? LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #23
Vote for Hillary Clinton, who I wanted to vote for in 2008. northoftheborder Sep 2014 #27
That depends on who is in running for Prez 2016. Anything can happen in the meantime. N/T deafskeptic Sep 2014 #28
If Republicans put someone up like Eisenhower, I might vote Republican then... cascadiance Sep 2014 #29
Probably exercise my ability to write in. I could give a damn about "insert boogieman here" TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #30
Vote Green. broiles Sep 2014 #31
I'm concentrating on election day 2014. AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #32
Give my vote to someone else bigwillq Sep 2014 #34
Have a Waffle. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #35
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Vote for the person who best represents the interests of the middle/lower classes.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 02:59 PM
Sep 2014

We need a Progressive.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. I'll vote for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." John Quincy Adams

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
7. Same as I did in 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 when I was unhappy
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 03:20 PM
Sep 2014

Or disappointed in the nominee-vote for the Democrat. That's why I'm on Democratic Underground-because I'm a democrat.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
8. I'll vote for someone else
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 03:29 PM
Sep 2014

more to my liking in the primaries, but will be willing to vote for HC as the nominee. Of course, by the time CA's primaries come around, the whole thing might already be decided and my vote won't matter.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
12. I keep feeling that this week's assignment is to nail down support for Hillary. Even if asking
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 03:37 PM
Sep 2014

this sort of question in 2014, when the election is so far away, is basically pointless.
So then the faulty logic would be that hey! since everyone will vote for Hillary if she is the candidate, let's make her the candidate!

Next week - why waste all of Hillary's money on primaries, when we can just declare her the candidate and use that money against the GOP?

Much to early to say what I will do on election day.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
14. Yep, this question is a waste of time and distraction, and i did it because
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:33 PM
Sep 2014

on DU I See post after post or thread after thread dedicated to attacking Hillary

I get confused about that because we do have much bigger problems.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. Vote for Clinton because despite everything she may or may not be
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:35 PM
Sep 2014

she is not going to nominate another Alito or Roberts or Scalia to the USSC and honestly, that's what I am most worried about in 2016, is the Supreme Court and it not getting any worse than it already is.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
19. ^^THIS^^
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:44 PM
Sep 2014

I disagree with Hillary on a number of issues, and she isn't my first choice for 2016, but I would vote for her over Ted Cruz or Rand Paul or any other batshit Republican who would likely load the Supreme Court with far-right conservative wackos.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
21. I think the point is not to have Hillary the one against Cruz or those other rubbish heaps.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

She seems to be sucking all the air out of many rooms. She hasn't announced and neither has anyone else so all this Hillary talk up (that I am sure the clinton team has on the job in many media places) is meant to discourage any challengers.

What is most important is to encourage more challengers and overpower the manipulation.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
25. I'm all for challengers if they can win
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Sep 2014

I have my doubts HRC can win if nominated. Id like to see Gillibrand run.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
33. Of course, as I said, Hillary is not my first choice
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:08 PM
Sep 2014

or even my second choice. However, I live in a swing state, and voting third party or not voting in the general election would be basically giving Cruz or Paul or whatever nutjob the Repukes put up a vote, and I'm not going to do that.

I don't think the talk about Hillary will discourage challengers from running, quite the opposite, I think it will encourage more to run. Warren and Sanders will probably run, and maybe Martin O'Malley and a few others.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. Look at the numbers in my state right before the election.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:40 PM
Sep 2014

MN is dependably blue in presidential elections. If HRC is up by 5-7 points, I vote Green for POTUS while voting an otherwise straight Democratic ticket and the electoral votes go blue anyway. If it's closer than that I hold my nose, vote for the corporatist who pals around with Kissinger the war criminal, go home, vomit, and get drunk. Maybe.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
20. +1
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:45 PM
Sep 2014

For me, Texas is hopelessly red when it comes to the Presidential election. My vote down ticket will be straight D (as mush as possible in Texas where in many races a D doesn't even contest the spot), but my Presidential vote will NOT be for warmed over Republican policies.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. Exactly.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

Which is what I did in 2000 when I voted for Ralph Nader in Alaska. There was no way in hell Al Gore was going to take Alaska, and Hillary probably won't either.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
24. I live in a swing state (NC)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:59 PM
Sep 2014

So I will be voting for the Democratic nominee, whether it be Hillary, Warren, Sanders, or someone else. If the 2016 election comes down to what happens here, I'm not going to be responsible for putting a Republican in the White House by voting third party.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. The state you are in makes a big difference.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:11 PM
Sep 2014

Which was my point. I have no beef with your decision, none at all.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
23. What is the makeup of Congress?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:52 PM
Sep 2014

That is the question. Doesn't matter who we elect in 2016 if we still have an obstructionist congress. Worse if we lose the majority in the Senate.

If Hillary is nominated, I won't stand in the way of her presidency. Won't fix anything that's wrong with our country though if we don't back her up with some sane legislators.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
29. If Republicans put someone up like Eisenhower, I might vote Republican then...
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5547196

I want someone who will:

- bring back tariffs, instead of going along recent Democratic paths of helping Republicans tear them down and putting in place treaties like NAFTA, and perhaps TPP or TISA soon...
- Replace a good part of the H-1B and H-2B programs with programs that emphasize REAL green cards for those moving here, and an emphasis on hiring those who want to become citizens, and not come here just temporarily to work for cheaper wages that they send back home to families living on a 10th of the cost of living here.
- Looks to put in constitutional amendments both for tearing down corporate personhood and money is free speech, as well as redefining the fourth amendment to have strength the way citizens and our founders would have wanted in the virtual world of the 20th century.
- Bring back accountability to Wall Street by restoring Glass-Steagall, curbing influence of hedge funds, transaction taxes for stock trades, and prosecutions of those who committed criminal acts in the meltdown of 2008 and later that lead to the financial meltdown.
- take down student debt so that they can be a contributing part of society both with higher wage jobs, as well as demand and being able to afford to buy a house rather than having to just pay down their college debts for the rest of their young lives.
- restore income tax rates before the Reagan administration to restore the wealth redistributed from the middle class to the upper classes in the last few decades.
- prioritize doing something about emphasizing alternative energy and de-emphasizing fossil fuels industry and other actions to deal with climate change disasters now.
- Enforce Sherman anti-trust act again and break up the oligopolies that dominate so many industry segments, especially our media industry which is simply NOT WORKING now for us.
- Put in place state banks to replace state debt in private banks which is putting them in heavy debt these days and providing one more element of money flow to the too powerful financial industry.
- take down our emphasis on war mongering, drone strikes, etc. that are a financial interest of the military industrial complex.
- decriminalize, legalize and regulate drug use and reduce the prison populations that are kept too large by the prison industrial complex.
- work to undo the changes by the bankruptcy bill instead of just trying to not take responsibility by "not showing up to vote" for or against it when it counted.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
30. Probably exercise my ability to write in. I could give a damn about "insert boogieman here"
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:28 PM
Sep 2014

Way over it.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
32. I'm concentrating on election day 2014.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:52 PM
Sep 2014

However, to sate the quests for loyalty oaths, Hillary Clinton will never have my vote.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
34. Give my vote to someone else
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:10 PM
Sep 2014

I am not voting for Hillary. And I am not voting for the R candidate.

I live in CT. The D candidate will likely win my state. So, I will vote for someone else.
If polls indicate the R may win my state, then I will reconsider my position.

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