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http://m.thenation.com/article/181552-meet-elizabeth-warren-wing-democratic-partyThis developing movement, now often referred to as "the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party" (a variation on the late Senator Paul Wellstone's declaration, "I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" , is focused on many of the issues that Warren raised in her electrifying July speech at Netroots Nation, where she vowed to fight for wage hikes, fair trade, pay equity, affordable education, and ironclad protections for Social Security and Medicare. "This is a fight over economics, a fight over privilege, a fight over power," the Massachusetts senator said. "But deep down, it is a fight over values. These are progressive values. These are America's values. And these are the values we are willing to fight for."
Democratic Party eliteswho dream of a return to the triangulating days of Bill Clinton, perhaps with another Clinton in the White Housestill resist this kind of values-based politics. But the party's base is yearningand votingfor something bolder. Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who, like his Massachusetts colleague, has been talked up as an alternative to Hillary Clinton in 2016, has taken an economic-populist message to every corner of the countryincluding the red states of the Deep South. "When you get outside the Beltway," Sanders notes, "and when you get outside political gossip and speculation, what you find is massive frustration and anger at both the political and economic establishment."
That sentiment has led to the rise of candidates like Bonnie Watson Coleman, a New Jersey legislator who won a hard-fought June primary with an economic-justice campaign that talked not about raising the minimum wage, but about the need for a living wage. Refusing to soft-pedal her determination to address "the gap between the wealthiest and [those] most in need," Coleman says "the equivocation of Democrats has created confusion for people. People need to know what their choices are and why."
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)"I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" these days.
To the triangulating, corporatist Centrists, there is nothing outside the beltway. Nothing they want to help out, anyway.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I remember when I warned Rand Paul could steal votes with anti war, marijuana legalization and anti prison police state stances. I got a lot of sarcastic, disparaging and frankly pompous comments frosted with all sorts of Hubris. Now even Bill Maher would vote republican over Hillary because he's not blind and understands she is a republican neocon underneath it all. There is a reason our party couldn't stomach her in 2012 and voted for the new candidate. She is the goodcop to Cheneys badcop but make no mistake they are partners. She will lose if the nominee and will then be no better than Nader and what he did to us. I just ignore the Hillary cheerleaders now as moving on from them is the best approach. We want a better world and Hillary is an old world, war entrenched system of oppression and privilege that is going to be fought in the streets not coddled or admired.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)because said republican {ETA: that libertarian, comedian, Bill Maher would vote for} would be less neocon and less anti-war and more pro-marijuana and more prison police state.
randys1
(16,286 posts)that Obama's approval rating is at an all time low over the Middle East.
Proof that about 75% of the american people are just stupid.
democrank
(11,092 posts)Democrats who vote on issues and Democrats who vote for whatever person has been chosen by the beltway elites.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Democratic candidate. People who do not should not refer to themselves as Democrats. Such people should start their own political party. That's my opinion.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)Kansas is a good example where Democrats realized that an independent had a better shot and got the Dem candidate to leave. In other cases, you might have an independent or socialist up against a Democrat in areas where the republicans are non-existent.
But yes, vote for the most progressive of the two frontrunners (or three, if theres about an even split). However, this is also important in the primaries, and people often neglect it there (and neglect the primaries in general).
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Many are now starting to vote for the candidate that is best for the Country instead of the best for the party. Often that is the (D) but if you don't educate yourself as to who is the best candidate, then you are doing your Country a disservice.
Lesser of two evils has gotten us to where we are today, the only way the best candidate wins is if you vote for them.
randys1
(16,286 posts)But like I have said maybe as a nation we are just too stupid
You can blame the media I guess, but between the fact the average american knows who won Idol but not who the vice president is, etc.
Wow...maybe we dont deserve to survive.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)People that vote for laundry are what is wrong with politics. One should vote their values and one should not vote if their values are not represented.
That is why I will never cast a ballot for H. Republican Clinton...many people believe the R stands for Rodham, but it's for Republican. A scarlet R to remind us that she is a betrayer of Democratic values and a lover of Goldwater conservatism.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)What I'm about is getting Democrats elected to legislative office. That's it. Why? Because Democratic majorities in legislatures tend to pass more progressive legislation. I'm not a windmill-tilter. I'm not a purist. I'm an activist in search of Democratic legislative majorities. Nothing else.
I'm not in a position to "enforce" anything at all. I work to convince people to vote for Democrats. That's because I see that as the only practical way to encourage progressive results.
Here in Minnesota, we elected a Democratic majority in both houses of our state legislature. In a single year, that legislature went from a Republican one that put an anti-marriage equality constitutional amendment on the ballot to a Democratic legislature that passed a marriage equality law that was signed by our Democratic Governor. That, my "Adult Swim" friend, is actual progress. Getting that progress was simple. We changed the makeup of our state legislature. Other progressive measures also passed in that legislature and were signed by our Governor. An increase in the minimum wage was one of them.
I can't "enforce" anything at all. I can, however, convince people to go to the polls and vote for Democrats. The results of that are clear and can happen everywhere. That's what I'm about.
GOTV 2014 and Beyond!
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I also understand that real Progressive Democrats have to still "play the game" regardless. Sad, but I'm on board with what "could" be a start of something else.
I wish these type of people could get elected and have a powerful impact RIGHT NOW! Just ain't in the cards and it breaks my heart!
Fred Friendlier
(81 posts)except that we will never get a Social Democracy if our strategy begins and ends with putting up some token leftie to get chewed up by the electoral machines. People talk about "dragging the party to the left" but just look a what happened in New York: Teachout's crushing loss in the primary served mainly to burnish Cuomo's reputation and boost him up for another crushing victory in the general. Given what a right wing tool the man is I hardly count that as a benefit to progressives. On top of which election managers all over the country are counting noses prior to November and this demonstration of an overwhelming lack of power on the part of the left wing makes it easy for them to discount us all together and go scampering off to look for votes on the right flank - precisely the opposite of what Teachout was trying to accomplish and what we are all hoping for.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)You write: "Teachout's crushing loss in the primary served mainly to burnish Cuomo's reputation ...."
To the contrary, most of the coverage emphasized that Teachout, starting with zero name recognition and hugely outspent (no way to make her case on the issues to many voters), nevertheless took a third of the vote. It was generally (and correctly) interpreted as a rebuke to Cuomo.
The major downside for progressives is that, because of the limits of Teachout's campaign, quite a bit of her vote has to be considered anti-Cuomo rather than pro-Teachout. Still, in terms of the effect on election managers (which you correctly identify as an important consideration), this primary was a net plus for our side.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Warren/Sanders or Sanders/Warren, or maybe throw Sherrod Brown, maybe some others ..they could easily be viable runners. I for one do not see Clinton as any more viable than many others.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)When it feels like it's down to nothing more than...... "OK, we broke ONE glass ceiling - now it's time for the other one." Personally, I give a shit about busting precedents (regarding presidents). I wanna hear about oligarchy-busting. I wanna hear about what we can do for the 99% - I wanna hear about Wall St. shaking in mortal fear of being forced to stop gambling with our collective fates! I care NOT - about the damned Israelis, or all the supposed "free trade""partners" or the disenfranchised hordes in countries where "American Industry" stalwarts are building shit to pedal to us.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Vote for the democrat regardless of who it is but may have to hold my nose while I do.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)moonbeam23
(312 posts)She has the best astrological chart, much much better than Hillary...in fact, Obama had a much much better chart than Hillary and most astrologers predicted him as the winner because of that...
Let's all pray that EW sees the light and runs this time...2020 will be too late
calimary
(81,220 posts)Glad you're here! That is MOST interesting! I do love Elizabeth Warren, and I want her mindset dominating our political landscape. We have to tilt the playing field BACK to normalcy. And the Wall Streeters need to be IN JAIL.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Hillary and Warren should rule together!!
calimary
(81,220 posts)Glad you're here! I often find myself thinking that - all these men over all these years have run things, and too many of them have run things straight into the ground. Seems to me maybe it's time to let the women take over for awhile. I bet women could fix things. After all, they don't have to worry about asserting how much bigger their dicks are than their opponents' are.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)but I do like the idea of a President Warren
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)In a wide variety of ideas and concepts. Why do you care?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)on DU who believe in the invisible magic man in they sky but it's considered bad taste to ridicule them and their beliefs. Capich?
trof
(54,256 posts)Maybe more than any time before in our history we need a populist government, IMHO.
According to Wikipedia:
"Populist may refer to:
A supporter of Populism, a political philosophy urging social and political system change that favors "the people" over "the elites", or favors the common people over the rich and wealthy business owners."
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Chan790
(20,176 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)then they should donate directly to her.
At PCCC, more than half of every dollar donated goes to pay the salaries of the employees of the PAC. If you think you're giving $1.00 to Warren through PCC, she might only be getting pennies on that dollar.
PCCC, IMO, exists only to put money into Adam Green's pocket. They talk a good game, but their FCC filings make it abundantly clear that not much of the money donated to them gets funneled to the candidates they claim to support.
Sid
WillyT
(72,631 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Warren and HIllary are working on 2014, democrats need to turn
out the vote not working making division in the party.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Is that a subtle push to unite behind a candidate?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)The Democratic Party does not have an 11th Commandment.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Dennis Kucinich... I'd be a Happy Camper....
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Maineman
(854 posts)bl968
(360 posts)Count me in!
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth