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Veganhealedme

(137 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:52 PM Sep 2014

Where is the Republican enthusiasm? Their party is secretly worried.

I'm 43. I was born and raised in a conservative fundy home. I stomached my family's insanity until I turned 18 and rebelled, in typical fashion. I'm on the progressive socialist side of the spectrum. Point is, I know conservative politics well, then again, so do many here at DU. Since, 18, I've always voted Dem in every election.

Pre-election politics and campaigns are all about trends. Did a candidate say something stupid thus initiating the downward spiral of their candidacy?(bartering chickens, witches, pro-rape) That would start a trend that would sink his/her ship, regarding their campaign. Or, on the flip side, is the candidate we favor trending favorably due to an effective TV ad? Those are examples of pre-election trends. Same with polling. I've been a poll watcher since I was a young teenager, and I'm thinking that many here on DU have been near life-long poll watching political junkies, like me.

We've all developed an 'eye' for politics. We've all developed political instincts and can pick up on vibes, err trends that are happening across the political landscape.

Point is, the vibe/trend that I'm feeling from Republicans is..
Where is their rally flag? There is very little Tea Party enthusiasm left. In fact, there is little Repub enthusiasm in any real area of their party. They're turning off swing voters with their radical right-wing agenda's, govt shutdowns, filibustering our nation to a RW partisan gridlocked halt.

Republicans have a gigantic lack-of-enthusiasm problem with their voters. What are Repubs going to do to get their voters enthused and motivated enough to vote. This problems could even crack their otherwise reliable voting base. Lack of enthusiasm can certainly sway elections.

Even if there loyal voting base turns out, it takes more than just the party base to win in most elections. It takes a motivated base and a good percentage of swing voters to win elections, except for the deep red districts. However many red districts are coming more into play for Dems. We can't give up on the Dem voting people in those districts. They work hard for our party. If we support Dems in those districts, we can possibly flip them blue.

Republicans clearly have an enthusiasm problem that could play favorably for the Democratic Party if our party can unite and become energetic about the upcoming elections.

We need to approach this election with confidence while remaining vigilant and working to promote high turnout for Dems.

If we vote, Democrats will win this election.

Another major problem for Repubs that is also sapping enthusiasm on their side, no clear cut front runner for 2016 on their side. Repub pres candidates are looking more like a clown show. It makes their party look headless. Like a ship without a crew and captain.

Republicans have opened the door for Democrats to possibly win and win big in November.

Turnout from Democratic voters couldn't be more important but we also should be excited because our party now has a real chance at winning in Nov.

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daleanime

(17,796 posts)
1. Their party is dying......
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:58 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

the only questions are how long and how much damage.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
4. Many of the older GOPers were once southern Democrats
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
Sep 2014

When the Dems officially rejected racism, these ... people ... just moved over to the other party.

Point is: the party may die, but the evil behind it will just find a new home.

If we can't change the culture, we won't fix this with political strategy.

(my two cents)

Veganhealedme

(137 posts)
6. You make valid points, but demographics are changing pretty fast..
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:42 PM
Sep 2014

and along with it, the political landscape is shifting.

Hard to say if these facts will play a large role in this midterm election.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. This is not good news. The Powers That Be have turned to the Democratic Party
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 08:00 PM
Sep 2014

to "influence". A Democratic Party that now embraces conservative ideals like fracking, the XL Pipeline, the expanded Security State of the new branch of government of the CIA/NSA, a party that support Wall Street profits over jobs for the 99%.

We need a competitive viable Republican Party to make the Two Party System work.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
13. Yet another reason we need to embrace
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:40 AM
Sep 2014

Instant runoff voting. Though I think many democrats are scared of it, a viable multi-party system is the only way to have a semblance of democracy. Changing election laws needs to be part of the democrats platform, and at the very least, progressives need to begin supporting aand advocating for it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. I like it but it's a band-aid for a dying patient. The Powers That Be will never
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:52 PM
Sep 2014

allow IRV. We must get back our representative government before we can do anything meaningful.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
15. I'm So Sorry To Ask You This Question...
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

and I hope you don't get offended. It's not my job to be school teacher, and I'm completely aware that texting has rendered correct spelling "not required." Of course you could have been spelling the word incorrectly for emphasis, but just asking. I know what you mean by "dieing" but it's really spelled "dying." There is a word "dieing" but it has a different meaning than I think you mean. And of course, you may not have learned English as your first language which then makes me look like a real jerk!

I also need to add that I myself have been corrected at times and have appreciated the help. I just have OCD and didn't say anything yesterday because I didn't want to be rude. So, please take my comments with a grain of salt.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
17. No problem.....
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:15 PM
Sep 2014

combination of being too reliant on spell check and too much of a hurry.



And so times you just see what you want to.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
2. I'm the only Democrat in a large Irish Catholic family (proud black sheep here) and also notice
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Sep 2014

how shrill they have become. I engage them with facts and just the other day was told to "Give it up!"....This from the religious tea party aunt. They are such losers...

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. Unfortunately, the Democrats have a worse case of the same problem.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:05 PM
Sep 2014

We've lost the few things we could rally around. The recent decisions on ISIL have divided us and dispirited some. The pull back from immigration reform has hurt. The failure to exploit the success of the HCA also doesn't help.

Basically, we are just voting against republicans and not for some dominant policies. That is not a good situation to be in during midterm elections. The Democrats have left the door open for the republicans to win big in November--in spite of the republicans' craziness.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
5. Betcha THEY Come Out And Vote...
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:07 PM
Sep 2014

They get the message and THEY vote! Plus, don't forget gerrymandering! There may be more Democrats, but when Mitch McConnell, Grimm, Sanford and others like them are polling higher... Repukes MUST be doing something right!

Here in FL Rick Scott, a crook if there ever was one, and who has a VERY LOW approval rating is polling ahead of Crist!

I'm trying to GOTV but have run into people who don't even know there's an election in November!! I know the state Democratic Party is pretty lame here, but Crist should really be getting a lot more help. Doesn't look like it to me! I haven't even gotten ONE email from them asking for help for him!! So, there may be more Democrats, but you also need leaders to help out!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
7. The voting machines will definitely be on their side!
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 06:00 PM
Sep 2014

They'll be able to get away with shenanigans to allow Republicans to regain power for longer than I would like.

Unless we get rid of the voting machines.

And, yes, I do believe they'll steal elections. There is very little to stop them from doing so, so why wouldn't they?

They only need to steal select elections, and only steal a few percentage points here and a few percentage points there.

I think people are fooling themselves if they don't believe the right-wing in this country would stoop to that level.

Paper ballots are sorely needed as one step in regaining a more trustworthy and representative democracy.

Veganhealedme

(137 posts)
8. They'd steal every election if allowed..
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 07:04 PM
Sep 2014

and yes I also worry about them hacking voting machines.

They'd do it in a heartbeat and have likely already engaged in it.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
14. I Was Ambivalent About This Situation For Some Time
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

HOWEVER, I have worked as a poll watcher here in FL. I saw myself at the end of the day when they all of a sudden had "machine" problems. Since our shift was over and of course since we were only observers we weren't allowed to touch anything. We did decide to stay around and watch what was going on as they transferred the ballots to a "lock box," but the ones that jammed were put in a different "lock box." Do I KNOW what happened afterward, no I don't because I didn't have that kind of clearance. The best we could do was ask what was going to happen to those votes. We were told we could contact the Supervisor of Elections for further information!

YEAH, that was going to work, ya think??? Besides, my district is the famous district that sort of/kind of found there were 21,800 plus under votes during a House of Representative election with Vern Buchanan and Christine Jennings! It was contested, but the whole process was a farce too! Supervisor is a witch with lots of connections and wins re-election all the time!

Also, Katherine Harris (Cruella) who was Secretary of State during the 2000 Presidential election got elected for 2 terms as our Representative right after that FIASCO! It's really hard to be politically active here because even our local Democratic Party is very DLC and I'm always the odd (woman) out.

So, just little story that PROVES nothing... but raises some suspicion in my mind!

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
9. Voter apathy is the biggest problem.
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 07:31 PM
Sep 2014

If every American voted, conservatives wouldn't stand a chance. The problem is that people are motivated more by anger and fear than by any other issues. And demagogues have always been good at exploiting this. They're coming to take away your guns, your God, your 'wealth' (even if you don't have any) and turn your daughters into harlots. They're going to kill babies and recruit your children into the Homosexual Agenda. They're going to allow godless hordes to invade our shores. It's always about what to be against. What to fear and not how to take care of our problems and our people. And when they do offer solutions, it's Ronald Reagan colored rainbows and unicorns. Magic, smoke and mirrors that fool ordinary Americans while we're getting royally screwed.

jalan48

(13,863 posts)
11. GOP- The Party of "Me"
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 07:38 PM
Sep 2014

The problem Republicans have is that they are driven almost exclusively by their own self interest. They believe if they get a $200 tax break and people like the Koch Brothers get $200 million it's ok-because they got $200. Their vision is the vision of self interest. Progressives generally have a vision that includes more than just themselves, if we have to pay more to make the society function better we are willing to share the cost. Ultimately, it's hard to raise leaders who are only thinking of themselves. Sooner or later the energy ebbs, especially after those leaders have been adequately paid off.

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