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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 08:42 PM Sep 2014

Here's What Happened When 13 States Raised Their Minimum Wages

Here's What Happened When 13 States Raised Their Minimum Wages

By Danny Vinik at the New Republic

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119440/states-raised-their-minimum-wages-had-stronger-job-growth

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In 2014, 13 states raised their minimum wages, five through legislation and eight through inflation indexing. Gould compared wage growth for the bottom 10 percent of Americans in those 13 states with the rest of America. In the former, real wages grew 0.9 percent, a non-negligible increase. In the remaining 37 states, real wages declined 0.1 percent. In other words, wage growth for the bottom 10 percent of Americans is entirely attributable to states that increased their minimum wages.

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That’s good news, but it’s not unexpected. Conservatives largely concede that raising the minimum wage increases wages. They oppose it, they say, because it will reduce job growth. So, did that happen in those 13 states? Jared Bernstein, the former chief economist for Vice President Joe Biden and a senior fellow at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, looked at the data. He found that job growth was higher in states that raised their minimum wages than it was in those that didn’t (1.8 percent versus 1.5 percent).

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Bernstein is quick to point out the limitations of this data. “Now, these are all small changes and I wouldn’t make a federal case out of any of them,” he writes. But it’s also important to note that minimum wage hikes have not crippled job growth in those 13 states. When the Senate next votes on raising the national minimum wage—possibly in the next few weeks—that’s something Republicans should keep in mind.



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Here's What Happened When 13 States Raised Their Minimum Wages (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2014 OP
Bet you will not hear these facts on the house or senate floors being uttered during the day.... diabeticman Sep 2014 #1
Facts, who needs facts Politicalboi Sep 2014 #4
Exactly. Studies, history, evidence are all liberal schemes. True conservatives KNOW pampango Sep 2014 #16
Homer Simpson says: cannabis_flower Sep 2014 #19
Facts are so 20th Century gratuitous Sep 2014 #20
Thanks for posting this. Recommended. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #2
People want to work for higher wages Aerows Sep 2014 #3
And the reason for that laundry_queen Sep 2014 #24
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Sep 2014 #5
Well Duh - Marginal Propensity To Consume - Poorer People Spend Their Pay Raise In The Economy cantbeserious Sep 2014 #6
I'd like to see a "Hoarders, Rich Style" tv show Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #7
That'd be boring Thav Sep 2014 #8
LOL Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #14
ideology DOES NOT TRUMP REALITEE. WHEN ARE THE GNEWZ GONNA GET A FUKING CLUE. pansypoo53219 Sep 2014 #9
They know what they're up to FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #18
Kick! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #10
Jared Bernstein is awesome daredtowork Sep 2014 #11
Wouldn't those things correlate with inflation? Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #12
LA city to raise the minimum wage, LA public transportation fares and fees increased 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #13
states with higher minimum wages suggest prosperity--and where does business go? librechik Sep 2014 #15
K&R&NT ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #17
K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #21
k&r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #22
Minimum Should be $12 an Hour Short-Term, On the Road Sep 2014 #23
k&r Electric Monk Sep 2014 #25
When people get paid money, they eat shenmue Sep 2014 #26

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
1. Bet you will not hear these facts on the house or senate floors being uttered during the day....
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 08:54 PM
Sep 2014

If it is heard they will make sure it is around 1 or 2 am.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
4. Facts, who needs facts
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:19 PM
Sep 2014

We can't convince them of climate change with weather staring them in the face. Oh look it snowed in NY 3 days straight. Tree huggers don't have a clue. 4th 5th 6th day temps 65 sunny melting snow floods everything. Still doesn't register.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
16. Exactly. Studies, history, evidence are all liberal schemes. True conservatives KNOW
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:16 AM
Sep 2014

what the "truth" is already and will only accept the "facts" that support the "truth".

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Facts are so 20th Century
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 06:36 PM
Sep 2014

Now it's enough to "feel" or "believe" something in order to base your decision on things. Congress critters from one side of the aisle in particular are so enamored of their own beliefs, that mere facts are insufficient to crack their steely convictions. They just "know" that higher wages lead to greater unemployment, lower growth, and business flight. Show them facts to the contrary, and they will simply state again that they know what they know, and all your facts and statistics and reality aren't going to sway them. Their wealthy bankrollers smile, and their idiot constituents lap up this bullshit and call it filet mignon.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. People want to work for higher wages
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:00 PM
Sep 2014

You can hire a hell of a lot more people by paying them a more fair wage than trying to get people to work for peanuts. People will move to get higher wages.

Finally, when people aren't so stressed that they worry about paying their bills, it frees up their minds to be more productive.

Whoever decided that making an employee so desperate that they are stressed about where their childrens next meal is coming from is a good business strategy is dumber than a box of rocks.

Oh wait. Long term strategy. That's part of the problem, too. Too many are solely concerned about one fiscal quarter instead of looking at growth over the long haul.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
24. And the reason for that
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:49 PM
Sep 2014

is simple. The reason they are only concerned about one fiscal quarter is because the reward structure for upper management is all wrong. If I was a major shareholder, I would be fighting tooth and nail for upper management to have their compensation directly tied to the long term performance of the company - measured by multiple measurements and benchmarking.

This is basic stuff that anyone with a business degree (I have a Bcom, major in accounting) should know. Lopsided compensation at the upper levels is a major issue to long term success of many companies.

And as you say, low wages at the lower levels often costs a company far more than they are willing to account for. That's also business basics. I've seen many examples play out IRL. It's apparent to me the companies with staying power treat their employees right.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
6. Well Duh - Marginal Propensity To Consume - Poorer People Spend Their Pay Raise In The Economy
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:48 PM
Sep 2014

Rich People Do Not because their marginal propensity to consume is very, very low.

Poorer people, with no pay raise, have nothing additional to spend in the economy - they can consume no more without a pay raise.

All basic economics.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
12. Wouldn't those things correlate with inflation?
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 03:39 AM
Sep 2014

So he may have cause and effect at least partly backwards, I'm afraid

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
13. LA city to raise the minimum wage, LA public transportation fares and fees increased
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 04:12 AM
Sep 2014

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Garcetti asking nearby cities to join L.A. in boosting minimum wages

http://www.latimes.com/local/cityhall/la-me-minimum-wage-neighbors-20140915-story.html

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MTA bus and train fares to rise Monday

http://www.latimes.com/local/cityhall/la-me-transit-fares-20140914-story.html

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The more money you make, the more money they take. Raising the minimum wage won't prevent greedy fatcats in the private sector or government from raising the prices of goods and services.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
15. states with higher minimum wages suggest prosperity--and where does business go?
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

to prosperous areas, of course! That's where the money is! And they're right!

tight fisted penny pinchers leave the country in fear and poverty

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
23. Minimum Should be $12 an Hour Short-Term,
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:20 PM
Sep 2014

$15 longer-term. Best economic stimulus package and anti-poverty program available.

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