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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:30 AM Sep 2014

Secret Government papers reveal how flag will look if Scotland votes for independence

Paul Harris dailymail.co.uk 31 March 2014

For more than two centuries it has been respected around the world as a sign of Britain’s greatness. Now the Union Jack, the nation’s proudest symbol, is poised to get a history-making new look – minus the Scottish saltire.



Secret Government papers propose ditching the cross of St Andrew, a white X on a blue background, that makes up a third of the current design if Scotland votes for independence, the Daily Mail can reveal today...

...The Daily Mail can confirm that the Scot-free flag is already in production at Britain’s longest-established producer.

Undercover pictures taken inside Flagmakers of Chesham, Buckinghamshire, show a red and white design exactly as described on the Downing Street papers.



more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593781/Scot-free-Union-Jack-gets-Yes-vote-makeover-Secret-Government-papers-reveal-flag-look-Scotland-votes-independence.html

Yes it's the daily mail but maybe they're right about this

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Secret Government papers reveal how flag will look if Scotland votes for independence (Original Post) nationalize the fed Sep 2014 OP
You know, I truly have "no dog in this fight" and truly believe this is for those affected to decide hlthe2b Sep 2014 #1
That flag makes me sad. femmocrat Sep 2014 #2
When using The Daily Mail as a source sharp_stick Sep 2014 #3
my suggestion is a crown and the motto LiberalEsto Sep 2014 #4
Ugly! Coventina Sep 2014 #5
St David's Cross The Great Escape Sep 2014 #8
Not a fan of that either, I have to say. Coventina Sep 2014 #11
That really does have an Evil Empire look to it. eppur_se_muova Sep 2014 #17
Only the daily mail could take a printer being out of blue ink and turn it into a story. FSogol Sep 2014 #6
The blue was an addition when Scotland entered the union. Glassunion Sep 2014 #9
So? They English can make their flag whatever they want. FSogol Sep 2014 #12
I agree. Glassunion Sep 2014 #15
Looking at the Date on The Article... The Great Escape Sep 2014 #7
That's what many of the commenters think nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #10
It Was The Term The Great Escape Sep 2014 #14
And that's why it talks about a 'jestation period', and puts 'April 1st' in the text muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16
Ummm... linuxman Sep 2014 #13

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
1. You know, I truly have "no dog in this fight" and truly believe this is for those affected to decide
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:41 AM
Sep 2014

and admittedly, I've always wanted Northern Ireland to gain independence, though the accord seems to have worked in recent years.

But, I'm at best equivocal about Scotland secession...If the vote is exceedingly close, I think this will cause more problems than it could ever "settle".

Best of luck to the Scottish people, however it turns out.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
3. When using The Daily Mail as a source
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 09:50 AM
Sep 2014

please put it in the subject line. It would save a lot of time over a year or so.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
5. Ugly!
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:08 AM
Sep 2014

I'd recommend just the St. George's cross on the white field (the English flag), but I don't know how they want to incorporate Wales.
Maybe have the Pendragon in the upper left quarter?

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
6. Only the daily mail could take a printer being out of blue ink and turn it into a story.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

Why would England remove the blue? Just claim it stands for the blue sky over their tiny "Empire" or claim the blue stands for banking which is all that matters in London.

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
12. So? They English can make their flag whatever they want.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

They aren't required or obligated to change it.

The blues are different anyway.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
15. I agree.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:55 AM
Sep 2014

I was simply answering why they would remove the blue, since the blue in the flag represents Scotland (even though it is a darker shade).

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
10. That's what many of the commenters think
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:25 AM
Sep 2014

I just thought it was interesting.

Probably up for a vote, if they're going to change it. I can't see them keeping the Union Jack, it would be a fraud in everyone's face every day.

Time will tell.

edit: Good catch! You're wide awake.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
16. And that's why it talks about a 'jestation period', and puts 'April 1st' in the text
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

and looks completely like a quick mock-up, and nothing whatsoever like an actual photo of a document held in someone's hand walkiong along. And has silly stuff like "they're already making them, even though the vote isn't for another 5 months, and indepedence wuold be at least 18 months after that".

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